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warthog1 · 2025-03-15T16:27:13-0700

MdubSTYLIE said:
Does he have strong circuits or does ducati? Because I feel he is proper ....... So far he isn't even the 2nd best rider on a ducati. His best races will be one spot ahead of Marc where so far Marc is finishing two spots ahead.

He has typically built speed over the season, but yes that may be Ducati developing the new machine.
He has some circuits he has been better at than other riders on the Ducati.
Yeah Marc is the favourite but it is still very early

MichaelBolton · 2025-03-15T16:38:32-0700

MdubSTYLIE said:
Does he have strong circuits or does ducati?

He's very good in Assen and Misano, I'd say those are his standout personal circuits. But we'll see.

MdubSTYLIE · 2025-03-15T17:00:58-0700

MichaelBolton said:
He's very good in Assen and Misano, I'd say those are his standout personal circuits. But we'll see.

So thats 10 points he could potentially claw back. Which is less than he is losing each weekend to Marq squared.

JCtx · 2025-03-15T17:16:38-0700

Exactly. Even if he wins those 2 races, that's not enough to win a championship. Having said that, I fully expect Pecco to beat Alex, so let's see how long it takes him to accomplish that. And if he does that, and also catches Marc, it'd probably be too late to be a championship contender this season. I personally don't think he has what it takes to better Marc, so my guess is barring disaster, it's extremely unlikely he'll be the champion with Marc around.

What is the $64K question is what will Marc (and Ducati) will do after 2026, when his contract is over. Alex deserves a factory ride IMO. Could we see both Marquez bros at Ducati???

warthog1 · 2025-03-15T17:50:45-0700

It isn't looking like it so far, agreed. More than happy if that is confirmed but I will wait a bit longer to see what is revealed, at least until a few European races are done.

Same as the next bloke I can't stand VR, but I have been impressed at how Pecco has been able to disengage from the VR BS. That has made me look upon him more favourably.

mikesbytes · 2025-03-15T18:30:09-0700

MdubSTYLIE said:
So thats 10 points he could potentially claw back. Which is less than he is losing each weekend to Marq squared.

Yeh that’s what I’m seeing as the main problem, Bagnaia isn’t finishing 2nd to Marquez when Marquez wins, when Bagnaia does start winning who is going to be second which of course is more points than 3rd

JPSLotus · 2025-03-15T20:10:46-0700

Also while it is early goings, is anyone getting bad vibes from Aldeguer?

I wasn't impressed with him during the tests in pre-season, and he really doesn't look to be the next big find. Also the way he blew it last season dropped his value for me big time.

JPSLotus · 2025-03-15T20:14:54-0700

MdubSTYLIE said:
Does he have strong circuits or does ducati? Because I feel he is proper ....... So far he isn't even the 2nd best rider on a ducati. His best races will be one spot ahead of Marc where so far Marc is finishing two spots ahead.

I think Pecco is in deep sh*t to be honest because what data does he have to analyze but his own now?

Everyone says riding the way MM does is impossible so his data would be pretty much useless to his teammate I would think? DiGi isn't up there.

JPSLotus · 2025-03-15T20:16:40-0700

warthog1 said:
He has typically built speed over the season, but yes that may be Ducati developing the new machine.
He has some circuits he has been better at than other riders on the Ducati.
Yeah Marc is the favourite but it is still very early

Well my thing also is the same thing I said to Mdubs, he's been touted as this data reading guru the past few seasons, but who's data does he have to look at anymore? MM is said to be incomprehensible to mimic when you look at how he rides.

mikesbytes · 2025-03-16T00:46:45-0700

JPSLotus said:
Also while it is early goings, is anyone getting bad vibes from Aldeguer?

I wasn't impressed with him during the tests in pre-season, and he really doesn't look to be the next big find. Also the way he blew it last season dropped his value for me big time.

Probably a bit early to judge Aldeguer

warthog1 · 2025-03-16T01:00:12-0700

JPSLotus said:
Well my thing also is the same thing I said to Mdubs, he's been touted as this data reading guru the past few seasons, but who's data does he have to look at anymore? MM is said to be incomprehensible to mimic when you look at how he rides.

Potentially true, but also 2 tracks Marc was expected to go well at.
I am just not ready to write Pecco off so early. I have watched him win at some circuits with great speed.
Yep I rate Marc higher than anyone I have ever watched, but sh it can happen and Pecco is not without talent.

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