2011 sx season

Stewart and traction control......got a friend who knows a guy that works with Joe Gibbs Racing(MX team)...ok got that out of the way. Speaking with him last night, the JGR guys suspect it's a launch control...which yea.....would give you a huge advantage.

I still have my doubts, I know the technology is there, but not sure if it can be packaged small enough for a MX/SX bike so it's not adding too much weight.



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L8, that's a great contact. I think they can pack it very small, electronics are going micro. If its not banned, then I suppose any edge it may give him, he'll take it. I think they need to ban it right now, before this .... gets out of control.

Would LC have a wheelspin sensor that was visible or is it an internal ECU issue? TC sounds impossible in SX. MX outdoors, maybe because the power is distributed over a large area but SX is just short bursts. If you've ever been to a SX you quickly realize that the 450s are not suited at all to the short tracks. They never get out of 3rd gear and are barely into the power. There's so much torque all around it seems that excessive wheelspin is not an issue.

LC seems more plausible than TC but with racing today who knows

Well LC would make more sense, I just don't know that Bubba's team would take a chance playing the grey area. Jum's is right in pointing out that Bubba's response to the TC question didn't help his case, but he was excited about winning and I'm sure he wasn't prepared for a question like that.

In any case, Speed and JGR did it's part to create some drama and it worked.

Yea nice insight by Jums. When stewart was trying to duck the question I just figured it was because was a hush hush issue but Jums thinks it was because he percieved it was a slight to his win. Judging by his reaction that makes sense. He acted like norman bates was calling him out.

SX at Dodger Stadium! Man I want to go. The Dodgers are my childhood baseball team, and I'd love to witness a SX at Blue Heaven. Pray that I get some last minute free tix.

Jum's I hope you get a ticket, it's the only way you will see it live. Coverage of 450 will air Sunday on CBS I think, and the lites will air on Speed later that day.

Sunday???? ...... I was loving the Sat night lineup.

RACE OF THE YEAR!!!













(had to watch it Sunday morning.)

That was definitely the race everyone was hoping to see, good to see Dungey up front, and Canard aint afraid to put it in there...great race!

I watched the race again last night with my son and two things stuck out. First, Trey Canard like him or not has to be the strongest guy in the 450 class this year. There were several occasions over the weekend where he should have taken another digger and especially in the main, but I believe sheer strength kept him on the bike. Canard needs to dial it down though or he won't be finishing the SX season. Second observation, I knew Villo would be strong this year because I've never seen him look as fit as he is now, but something else looks different and I can't put my finger on it, but I want to say he's changed his riding position? JKnock your a RV fan, have you noticed anything or am I just seeing things?



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Stewart was pissed at himself, but I can't help but think he still makes mistakes when being pressured. I would like to know the lap times from the race, I'm curious who turned the fastest lap time, Villo when he was trying to catch Stewart, or Stewart after he fell and was trying to catch Villo?

Stroupe....hmm last two weekends in a row he's been up front for a lap or two then fades. He's still not in race shape would be my guess. Maybe he can pull a top 5 finish out somewhere this year?

For Jumkie: .... Reed....seriously, stick a fork in him.

I hope we get to see more Villopoto, Stewart, Dungey, and Canard battles this year, that was great!



Lites: Hansen, gotta love that dude, right now the nastiest rider around and that's good in my opinion. Got a little too aggressive and paid the price by stalling the bike, but he came back to 5th and put one of the best pay back (over the tuffblocks) passes I've seen in a long time...classic.

Tomac! Was great seeing him stand on the podium....watch this kid, I think some championships are in his future.

L8 I don't have the eye to notice style changes. You would know better. Or maybe we can send Babelfish a few tapes so he can diagnose this dilemna.

What I see is a complete attitude change.in the past he put himself in positions where he has to do the impossible to catch up. Bad starts would lead to him riding over his head and inevitably he would crash causing DNF or worse injury. He realizes that he has the talent to win but relying on that talent to overcome huge deficits was not a recipe for success.

He said that while laying in the hospital pondering his uncertain future he realized that if he were to race again he would never put himself in that position again.

With the attitude change he must have concluded that his fitness was good but just not good enough. So what do you do? Hire the best and stay dedicated to his program.

He took a nice introspective look at himself and was able to recognize his faults and pounce on remedying them. (Ok enough of my cheesy feel good, athlete on the brink,melodrama)

This was the best race we have seen in a while. Lap 8, when Dungey,Stewart and villo were on the same whoop section my heart was pounding outside my chest. I was actually bummed when Stewart washed out. I really want to see those 2 go head to head. It looks like we will be seeing that soon.

I think Dungeys head is reeling at the moment. He should have been the favorite at the start of the season and he's come up short 3 times head to head with the players. I think mid year or so Canard will be Dungeys best opponet. Maybe we should start a Dungey / Canard mundalito.

Laptimes from LA SX...top 5 guys significantly faster.



http://www.racerxonline.com/2011/01/25/sign-of-the-lap-times

Awesome race. Top 4 are from another planet, Aliens even!



RV would have taken Stewart wash out or not. Stewart's strength is his ability to come from behind or lead by 5+ sec. Pressure is his kryptonite. He has depth of talent around him now as RV & RD are mature racers now and won't be intimidated or make rookie errors.



I like that these guys all ride clean but hard. Funnily enough the biggest God botherer of the bunch is probably the dirtiest!

Mental Anarchist said:

Funnily enough the biggest God botherer of the bunch is probably the dirtiest!

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Ha Ha. I think you're right. I remember watching him the year he beat Villo in the Lites and he was doing everything to put him on the ground. I'm still pissed how he held up the leaders last year and possibly changed the outcome of the championship. My opinion may be wrong but I didn't feel him proving himself on a 450 should have gotten in the way of what the fans really wanted to see which was a RD RV battle.

I won't mind him so much this year, as long as he starts beating Dungey every week

Anyone know the TV schedule for Oakland?

My Guide has it listed at noontime on Sunday on CBS and 3pm Sunday on Speed.

JohnnyKnockdown said:

My Guide has it listed at noontime on Sunday on CBS and 3pm Sunday on Speed.

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damn! Speed teased us with live racing...even though I had to stay up late to watch the races it was worth it. I guess I should just be happy the races are being televised....bring on Oakland!