2009 Post season test

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (evo9 @ Nov 11 2009, 03:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Valencia Day 2 Test Times

Pos No Rider Bike Time Diff
1 99 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 1'31.940 0.000
2 27 Casey Stoner Ducati 1'32.196 0.256
3 11 Ben Spies Yamaha 1'32.942 1.002
4 46 Valentino Rossi Yamaha 1'32.965 1.025
5 69 Nicky Hayden Ducati 1'32.982 1.042
6 3 Dani Pedrosa Honda 1'33.092 1.152
7 36 Mika Kallio Ducati 1'33.125 1.185
8 65 Loris Capirossi Suzuki 1'33.277 1.337
9 14 Randy de Puniet Honda 1'33.306 1.366
10 41 Aleix Espargaro Ducati 1'33.345 1.405
11 33 Marco Melandri Honda 1'33.356 1.416
12 4 Andrea Dovizioso Honda 1'33.546 1.606
13 58 Marco Simoncelli Honda 1'34.458 2.518
14 40 Hector Barbera Ducati 1'34.835 2.895
15 19 Alvaro Bautista Suzuki 1'34.904 2.964
16 400 Hiroshi Aoyama Honda 1'35.745 3.805
17 00 Toni Elias Gresini Moto2 1'38.597 6.657
18 5 Joan Olive Promoracing Moto2 1'39.268 7.328




I can already hear rossi crying some more.






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ok now I'm looking at Spies

That's impressive .



Also ....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Duc999 @ Nov 11 2009, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Elbowz doubter- here! sort of.... I am the first to admit that i didn't think that he would acclimatize to the bike this fast. I thought he and Simoncelli would duke it out.

He is the real deal... the truth ruth. The bees knees and elbowz...

One thing that also impressed me when he rode Valencia was ....... he is already losing that "elbows" style, which he needed to.

But I'm still waiting till next season before I decide whether he is "alien" class or midpacker.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Nov 11 2009, 01:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>ok now I'm looking at Spies

That's impressive .



Also ....


One thing that also impressed me when he rode Valencia was ....... he is already losing that "elbows" style, which he needed to.

But I'm still waiting till next season before I decide whether he is "alien" class or midpacker.
No way is he a midpacker. I think it was reasonable to question whether he could ride an 800 motogp bike as well as a superbike, although he already had shown some form on a suzuki in 2008, but I see no reason why he would not be able to replicate testing/practice form in motogp when he had no problem doing so in wsbk.

As has been said it looks as though he was riding more prudently than he might otherwise have done in the valencia race, perhaps at least partly under instruction to aid CE's quest for 5th position in the championship.

TBH guys after seing spies style in wsbk how could anyone think he wouldnt do so well?

the guy sure aint scared to ride a bike on the edge thats for sure, his bike control is pretty awesome and he sure knows where to plant a bike for some fast conering...

bye pinky have fun on your next adventure posting drivel like you do here....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Nov 10 2009, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Final

1 Jorge Lorenzo Fiat Yamaha Team 1:31.939 - - 62
2 Casey Stoner Ducati Marlboro Team 1:32.195 +0.256 +0.256 44
3 Valentino Rossi Fiat Yamaha Team 1:32.528 +0.333 +0.589 55
4 Ben Spies Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:32.942 +0.414 +1.003 61
5 Nicky Hayden Ducati Marlboro Team 1:32.981 +0.039 +1.042 84
6 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team 1:33.025 +0.044 +1.086 46
7 Randy De Puniet Lcr Honda MotoGP 1:33.111 +0.086 +1.172 76
8 Mika Kallio Pramac Racing 1:33.125 +0.014 +1.186 84
9 Loris Capirossi Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1:33.211 +0.086 +1.272 64
10 Marco Melandri San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:33.326 +0.115 +1.387 85
11 Aleix Espargaro Pramac Racing 1:33.345 +0.019 +1.406 74
12 Andrea Dovizioso Repsol Honda Team 1:33.546 +0.201 +1.607 44
13 Hector Barbera Aspar Team 1:34.206 +0.660 +2.267 100
14 Marco Simoncelli San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:34.230 +0.024 +2.291 79
15 Alvaro Bautista Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1:34.540 +0.310 +2.601 74
16 Hiroshi Aoyama Scot Racing Team 1:35.261 +0.721 +3.322 88
17 Xavier Simeon Gresini Moto 2 Team 1:37.279 +2.018 +5.340 58
18 Joan Olive Promoracing 1:37.881 +0.602 +5.942 86

Intresting!

Obviously on my behalf: Go Rossi for 10th!

I mean wow, I think it shows you how far and above Yamaha is from Suzuki. If Spies keeps on improving, who knows what could happen. I didn't think he could adjust this fast and thought Simoncelli would've outpaced him in these tests but I was wrong. I'm sure having been a wild card at couple of races last year helped at least a little bit in getting acclimated to a MotoGP bike, but he still is essentially starting from scratch just like the other rookies.

It seems Dovi had a highside and cracked his hip,but kept riding

Dovizioso was up to pace quickly and set his
fastest time of the day on his eighth lap using
soft compound Bridgestone tyres. When he went out
on the harder compound rubber the Italian was
high-sided from the RCV injuring his left hip.
Despite a small fracture Dovi continued testing
ending the day satisfied overall with the efforts
he and the team put in today. He was particularly
pleased with the improved machine stability under
braking, one of the difficulties he had wrestled with during the 2009 campaign.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ Nov 10 2009, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sorry Garry, I'm not getting the link to the discussion regarding JT that you are alluding to... can you elaborate?


Michael nailed it with


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Nov 10 2009, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I may again be putting words in gaz's mouth when he is more than adequately eloquent on his own behalf, but he may be suggesting that edwards being the yamaha signed rider rather than the tech 3 contracted rider like JT had a technically superior bike in 2009, but is now in the reverse position with regard to ben spies as of yesterday.


Then I read.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Nov 10 2009, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Just watched some vids on motogp.com. Spies said he is on jt's bike with his setup from the race, he is alien! Someone asked about the ducati and it for sure sings a new song. It sounded good, but the video of the 6's holy .... I cant wait to see them race those ........ ....... screammers with a snap crackle pop when they let off the throttle. I am really looking forward to next season!

Which kind of throws a spanner.

Then I checked the times and well - AWESOME

The guy is real, is here, is talented and is showing the capabilities of the Tech3 equipment and what they have been missing.

He will podium next season and I suspect at this early stage become a fifth by seasons end

These results are not those of an average racer no matter what spin or excuses we use or look for, they are those of a talent - simple.

Next year should be good if these early indications are to be used asa guide




Gaz

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Nov 11 2009, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>...Which kind of throws a spanner.

Then I checked the times and well - AWESOME

The guy is real, is here, is talented and is showing the capabilities of the Tech3 equipment and what they have been missing.

He will podium next season and I suspect at this early stage become a fifth by seasons end

These results are not those of an average racer no matter what spin or excuses we use or look for, they are those of a talent - simple.

Next year should be good if these early indications are to be used asa guide

Gaz
It WAS a good theory well it lasted!

Agree with the rest of your analysis completely.

Collie was "sick" today (see guys - I use parentheses for ANYONE with a unknown sickness) but I'm super-curious to see how he plays with Ben next year... I'm inclined to believe they will both lift each other to perform better and Collie should have another banner year (though finish behind Ben) and Tech Trois will have a satellite dream-team for a season anyway...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GatorDuc @ Nov 10 2009, 05:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Couldn't agree more. Can't they put some more effort into it? It just looks 80's tacky cheese-ball, like a 7th grader picked out the livery ......

....and another aesthetic issue, I think MDub brought it up previously concerning Hector's numbers, WTF is with all the rainbow .... in MotoGP. I don't get it, is it a European thing or a homosexual expression?? Seriously, anyone got any idea?


It is peace, was in Italy when Gulf War 2 started and every window had a rainbow flag hanging out of it with "Pace" on it (translation "peace").

Initially I thought they wanted me to go fast (pace) but the gendarmes or whatever they are told me i was a ....... ...... Its a peace symbol not the chutney ferret one.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ Nov 11 2009, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It WAS a good theory well it lasted!

Agree with the rest of your analysis completely.

Collie was "sick" today (see guys - I use parentheses for ANYONE with a unknown sickness) but I'm super-curious to see how he plays with Ben next year... I'm inclined to believe they will both lift each other to perform better and Collie should have another banner year (though finish behind Ben) and Tech Trois will have a satellite dream-team for a season anyway...


I'm wondering if I take a sickie tomorrow should I get a note from a Rossi fan rather than my doctor seeing they are the higher authority...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Nov 11 2009, 06:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm wondering if I take a sickie tomorrow should I get a note from a Rossi fan rather than my doctor seeing they are the higher authority...

While you're at it; maybe you should ask one of the Rossi fans if they
will sign off on whether Obama is a legal USA citizen.

Final day's results... slim field...

MotoGP Valencia Test, Spain
Session 3 - 11/11/09
Pos Rider Team Fastest lap Prev. Gap Lead. Gap Laps
1 Casey Stoner Ducati Marlboro Team 1:31.900 - - 35
2 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team 1:31.944 +0.044 +0.044 38
3 Nicky Hayden Ducati Marlboro Team 1:32.805 +0.861 +0.905 40
4 Andrea Dovizioso Repsol Honda Team 1:32.825 +0.020 +0.925 51
5 Marco Melandri San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:32.936 +0.111 +1.036 36
6 Mika Kallio Pramac Racing 1:32.988 +0.052 +1.088 39
7 Aleix Espargaro Pramac Racing 1:33.275 +0.287 +1.375 55
8 Loris Capirossi Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1:33.464 +0.189 +1.564 43
9 Hector Barbera Aspar Team 1:33.787 +0.323 +1.887 57
10 Marco Simoncelli San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:33.856 +0.069 +1.956 35
11 Alvaro Bautista Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1:34.163 +0.307 +2.263 45
12 Hiroshi Aoyama Scot Racing Team 1:34.821 +0.658 +2.921 47
13 Joan Olive Promoracing 1:38.718 +3.897 +6.818 37
14 Xavier Simeon Gresini Moto 2 Team 1:39.151 +0.433 +7.251 12
15 Kenny Noyes Promoracing 1:45.427 +6.276 +13.527 2

Just a reminder that you can see and hear the Moto2 prototypes on the CEV/Buckler site.I`m addicted to the `pop and howl` as well.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Nov 11 2009, 04:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm wondering if I take a sickie tomorrow should I get a note from a Rossi fan rather than my doctor seeing they are the higher authority...

As my last official duty before I join the spies revolution, I will write you that note.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Nov 11 2009, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'> While you're at it; maybe you should ask one of the Rossi fans if they
will sign off on whether Obama is a legal USA citizen.

Sorry I have fulfilled my bopper duties above, I'm not touching that one.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ Nov 11 2009, 07:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Final day's results... slim field...

MotoGP Valencia Test, Spain
Session 3 - 11/11/09
Pos Rider Team Fastest lap Prev. Gap Lead. Gap Laps
1 Casey Stoner Ducati Marlboro Team 1:31.900 - - 35
2 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team 1:31.944 +0.044 +0.044 38
3 Nicky Hayden Ducati Marlboro Team 1:32.805 +0.861 +0.905 40
4 Andrea Dovizioso Repsol Honda Team 1:32.825 +0.020 +0.925 51
5 Marco Melandri San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:32.936 +0.111 +1.036 36
6 Mika Kallio Pramac Racing 1:32.988 +0.052 +1.088 39
7 Aleix Espargaro Pramac Racing 1:33.275 +0.287 +1.375 55
8 Loris Capirossi Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1:33.464 +0.189 +1.564 43
9 Hector Barbera Aspar Team 1:33.787 +0.323 +1.887 57
10 Marco Simoncelli San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:33.856 +0.069 +1.956 35
11 Alvaro Bautista Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1:34.163 +0.307 +2.263 45
12 Hiroshi Aoyama Scot Racing Team 1:34.821 +0.658 +2.921 47
13 Joan Olive Promoracing 1:38.718 +3.897 +6.818 37
14 Xavier Simeon Gresini Moto 2 Team 1:39.151 +0.433 +7.251 12
15 Kenny Noyes Promoracing 1:45.427 +6.276 +13.527 2


i'm surprised Ben didn't go out. i figured he would be using every second he could get to test the bike.

Total times from all three days:
Pos No Rider Bike Time Diff Day
1 27 Casey Stoner Ducati 1'31.899 0.000 Day 3
2 99 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 1'31.939 0.040 Day 2
3 3 Dani Pedrosa Honda 1'31.944 0.045 Day 3
4 46 Valentino Rossi Yamaha 1'32.528 0.629 Day 2
5 69 Nicky Hayden Ducati 1'32.804 0.905 Day 3
6 4 Andrea Dovizioso Honda 1'32.825 0.926 Day 3
7 33 Marco Melandri Honda 1'32.935 1.036 Day 3
8 11 Ben Spies Yamaha 1'32.942 1.043 Day 2
9 36 Mika Kallio Ducati 1'32.988 1.089 Day 3
10 14 Randy de Puniet Honda 1'33.111 1.212 Day 2
11 65 Loris Capirossi Suzuki 1'33.211 1.312 Day 2
12 41 Aleix Espargaro Ducati 1'33.275 1.376 Day 3
13 40 Hector Barbera Ducati 1'33.786 1.887 Day 3
14 58 Marco Simoncelli Honda 1'33.857 1.958 Day 3
15 5 Colin Edwards Yamaha 1'33.929 2.030 Day 1
16 19 Alvaro Bautista Suzuki 1'34.163 2.264 Day 3
17 400 Hiroshi Aoyama Honda 1'34.821 2.922 Day 3
18 0 Toni Elias Gresini Moto2 1'37.279 5.380 Day 2
19 9 Kenny Noyes Promoracing Moto2 1'37.881 5.982 Day 2
20 5 Joan Olive Promoracing Moto2 1'39.227 7.328 Day 3
21 14 Ratthapark Wilairot Stop & Go Moto2 1'41.989 10.090 Day 1

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mastodon @ Nov 11 2009, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i'm surprised Ben didn't go out. i figured he would be using every second he could get to test the bike.
You'd think, eh? Didn't read whether this was a planned two day test for him, or not...

Hmmm, just found this quote from Ben in Tech3s press release from yesterday:

"I've enjoyed working with my new guys at Monster Yamaha Tech 3. It has been a tough year but a great year for me and I'm looking forward to the winter, training hard and being ready to go again in February."

Guess it was a planned two dayer.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (two-stroke @ Nov 11 2009, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Total times from all three days:
Pos No Rider Bike Time Diff Day
8 11 Ben Spies Yamaha 1'32.942 1.043 Day 2
...., I hear a juicy justification coming from a certain light-red, light-in-the-loafers, lady-boy-lovin' member...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Nov 11 2009, 03:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm wondering if I take a sickie tomorrow should I get a note from a Rossi fan rather than my doctor seeing they are the higher authority...

Total times from all three days:


Pos No Rider Bike Time Diff Day
1 27 Casey Stoner Ducati 1'31.899 0.000 Day 3
2 99 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 1'31.939 0.040 Day 2
3 3 Dani Pedrosa Honda 1'31.944 0.045 Day 3
4 46 Valentino Rossi Yamaha 1'32.528 0.629 Day 2

The Aliens' Cup. Now, Rossi looks a bit off the pace here. But I guess we'll never really know, until the beginning of the next season, if he is losing the "sacred fire" and gently declining, or he's just playing around.


5 69 Nicky Hayden Ducati 1'32.804 0.905 Day 3
6 4 Andrea Dovizioso Honda 1'32.825 0.926 Day 3
7 33 Marco Melandri Honda 1'32.935 1.036 Day 3
8 11 Ben Spies Yamaha 1'32.942 1.043 Day 2
9 36 Mika Kallio Ducati 1'32.988 1.089 Day 3
10 14 Randy de Puniet Honda 1'33.111 1.212 Day 2
11 65 Loris Capirossi Suzuki 1'33.211 1.312 Day 2


Spies! Impressive. He's a rookie (well, almost) but he's already up there, and he can only improve. And watch that Hayden, where he is -- has the Ducati GP10 finally been "humanized"?


12 41 Aleix Espargaro Ducati 1'33.275 1.376 Day 3
13 40 Hector Barbera Ducati 1'33.786 1.887 Day 3
14 58 Marco Simoncelli Honda 1'33.857 1.958 Day 3
15 5 Colin Edwards Yamaha 1'33.929 2.030 Day 1
16 19 Alvaro Bautista Suzuki 1'34.163 2.264 Day 3
17 400 Hiroshi Aoyama Honda 1'34.821 2.922 Day 3


The rookies' Cup. I would have expected MS 58 to top this list, but evidently he's taking it easy. Espargaro already has a little more experience and it shows. Colin doesn't belong here, but he was sick.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Nov 11 2009, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The Aliens' Cup. Now, Rossi looks a bit off the pace here. But I guess we'll never really know, until the beginning of the next season, if he is losing the "sacred fire" and gently declining, or he's just playing around.
If I remember correctly, I think Rossi had a pretty lengthy laundry list of components to test, new forks and an updates chassis I believe. I can't remember for sure, but I remember thinking to myself that times probably weren't all that important for him. I don't think it's the decline.