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i missed the 125's but the 250's was a good watch...

brillant work from lorenzo, keeping a cool head for once. those extra points over Dovi and that extra place is gonna be a huge blow to dovi's confidence.
 
I gotta admit, I think I`ve been converted by this small bike business. Was rooting for both KTMs and they both produced wins, with some exciting racing to boot. Couldn`t hold my intrest with the rest of the bikes because I didn`t know who was who, but I might have to start getting into these 125 and 250 races next year, especially if Kallio and Aoyama make the KTM a real contender.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Sep 24 2006, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Bautista is on track to beat the 'most points ever in a season' record currently held by Rossi.
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And that is to be achieved in 125 cc, where the hands and the talent usually prevail, much more than in any other class, given the narrow differences in machinery.

I'm really curious to watch Bautista on one Aprilia 250. Aprilias are much better in that class than the rest. It might well be an even more devastating carnage for the rest of the field than this season's 125.

I mean,
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One thing that has really helped Bautista this year is that Aspar team has five bikes in the class compared to usual two. That's the thing that has made difference between them and other Aprilias who don't even have single podium. Nieto and Olive have two fifth places each, that's best result for them.

I'm not saying that Bautista doesn't deserve championship. He really does, he has been fastest and most consistent Aspar rider. Four of them (Bautista, Pasini, Gadea, Faubel) have been often in the top while Tunez is riding first full season which has included many injuries.

KTM had better season last year when they had three bikes instead of two. But it doesn't mean everything, Thomas Lüthi who won title in single-bike team. This year he has team-mate in Cortese.

In 250s de Angelis and Lorenzo are competing against each other, even if they both have Aprilia. Of course Aspars do that also but don't think they would try being too risky, so that one takes another out.

KTM has become my favourite team, thanks to Kallio. But it will be nice to watch 125s next year as my other favourite Koyama (thanks to Ajo) takes his place.
 
I understand what you say.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bleu @ Oct 2 2006, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In 250s de Angelis and Lorenzo are competing against each other, even if they both have Aprilia. Of course Aspars do that also but don't think they would try being too risky, so that one takes another out.
I'm not so sure about Aspar's peers being mindful of each other's physical integrity. It suffices to watch any Pasini - Bautista duel this season. The Italian would made Taliban fighters look like delicate flowers if he were allowed to mount an AK-47 on his Aprilia.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Ex-BSB boss plans all-British 125 and 250GP teams.

Former British Superbike team owner Ben Atkins is facing a four-week countdown in an ambitious bid to launch new, all-British, teams in the 2007 125 and 250cc World Championships.

The Midlands based businessman plans to run two British riders in each of the two classes, and has already arranged bikes from Honda, and won approval from Dorna, the MotoGP organisers.

Atkins has also short-listed around six riders as potential team members, including Cal Crutchlow, 20, winner of the 2006 British Supersport championship with the Northpoint Ekerold Honda team.

Atkins, formerly owner of the Reve Red Bull Ducati team which won the 2001 British Superbike Championship with John Reynolds, said: "We want to give young lads in the UK the opportunity to develop their skills at a higher level and one day become world champions. We want them to have the same opportunity that Spaniards and Italians enjoy."
Now Atkins is having final talks with potential sponsors so that he can finance initial rider tests in Spain in November.

"We need the go-ahead by the end of October to give Honda time to get the machinery sorted," he said. "We have four more weeks before time starts to get tight."

The venture would be called 'Team Tyro' - tyro means beginner, and comes from the Latin word for a recruit - and the team manager will be the experienced crew chief Nigel Bosworth (lower picture), who has previously worked in the Reve Red Bull and Foggy Petronas teams.

The other riders that Atkins is considering include Eugene Laverty and Leon Camier, both 20, who finished third and fourth in this year's British Supersport series, Craig Jones, 21, currently a Foggy Petronas factory rider in World Superbikes, Bradley Smith, 15, currently riding for Repsol Honda in 125cc GPs, Kev Coghlan, 18, a rider in the Red Bull MotoGP Aacademy, and 14-year-old Robbie Stewart, who finished fifth in this year's 125cc British championship, scoring a win and two podiums.

"We've put the infrastructure together, and talked to a lot of people who want to join us," Atkins said. "We're looking at a property in the Midlands as the team base. We want to do the world 125 and 250cc championships for the next two years, with two riders in each class. They would need one year to learn the circuits and the team, and in the second year we'd go full-out to win races.

"Honda has offered us a great deal on the bikes, and I'm now trying to confirm backing from sponsors, who are British-based international companies."

Britain has failed to produce a world champion in any grand prix class since Barry Sheene won the 500cc title in 1977. British racing has since focussed on production-based Superbikes, where Carl Fogarty, Neil Hodgson and James Toseland have won world championships.

Various British riders have tried to get to the top of grand prix racing, with only limited success. But the Ben Atkins project will be taken seriously, because of his pedigree in running competitive teams and his business-based approach to racing (he runs a mechanical and electrical engineering company in Peterborough, Cambridgeshire).

http://www.crash.net/news_View~t~Ex-BSB-bo...6~id~138385.htm
 
Exciting news
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lets hope it comes off. Any news on chaz davies' future?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pirkkalan GP @ Oct 4 2006, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Exciting news
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lets hope it comes off. Any news on chaz davies' future?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Chaz fifth on AMA debut!

Former 125 and 250 GP rider Chaz Davies finished a very impressive fifth on his AMA Supersport - and four-stroke - debut at Sunday's 2006 season finale, held at the challenging Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course.

Despite a rain interrupted schedule, the 19-year-old, who lost his Campetella ride when the team hit mid-season financial problems, put his Celtic Racing Yamaha R6 as high as fourth during the 16 lap race - until narrowly losing out to 2006 champion Jamie Hacking on the very last lap, due to fading tyre performance.

Nevertheless, Chaz crossed the finish line less than one second behind the factory Yamaha rider and was just 22-seconds from race winner Roger Lee Hayden (younger brother of Nicky).

Davies also took his R6 to a fighting eighth place finish in the Formula Xtreme race, which was won by Honda's Josh Hayes.
http://www.crash.net/news_View~t~Chaz-fift...6~id~138341.htm
 
this is great to see! all the luck to him & his teams. i will be pulling for them.
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About time British money was invested in British young riders, rather that Dorna financing them. 125 is the way to forge future stars, not supersport or sbk.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vespix @ Oct 5 2006, 04:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>125 is the way to forge future stars, not supersport or sbk.
so so true!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pirkkalan GP @ Oct 4 2006, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Exciting news
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lets hope it comes off. Any news on chaz davies' future?

further more here
Chaz Davies
 
Thanks for the info. Sorry for my lazy viewing: i am new to the forum and viewing on my mobile phone.
 
where i live, i can't see the 125 races, but i follow the 250 very closely.

this championship was very exiting, i wanted dovi to win.

I'm a Martin Cardenas follower, you know, being colombian and all that, and i thought he was having a fenomenal season in the BQR team, most of you (i guess) don't even know who he is, but i hope he can start next year with a good team from the beggining (hopefully repsol again)


I don't remember who it was that said that Cardenas was chozen becouse of demography and stuf, but if you check his statistics, he was the 4th best honda in the championship, and was riding a private bike.

Anyway, it's a shame he hurt himself, i just hope he can race this 2 last races and have a strong finish like he did last year, running for the Aprillia Germany team 250.

GO MARTIN, and GO DOVI
 
Demographics? No way. No offence, but being in Repsol YPF's payroll, wouldn't an Argentinian fit better in the brand? Are Repsol known in Colombia?

I think that I remember Cardenas on 5th position before DNF in the last race, sorry about my bad memory. If the guy is good, great, I just hope he has the talent of Porto, only more regular.

Go Cardenas!
 
cardenas is gonna have even a tougher time next season. the 250s are gonna be packed with top contenders.
 
I think he'll step up, becouse, even thou this is his second year in the category, it's only his 4th in superbikes, up to the year 2002 he was a motocross driver, so these are his getting experience years, i think that next year he'll, do an even better job

no harm in hoping
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P.s. in colombia the only times you hear "Repsol" is when they talk about the Motogp
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Well done to Dovi in the 250's to keep the championship alive till the end. I was rooting for the oldboy Locatelli though who got Pole and deserved a podium at least.
 
250s was a brilliant race! good on dovi. he's still in it with a shot! did'nt see the 125s. could'nt get up in time.
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