Look, Honda didn't make the RC211V with anybody's name on it. You surely remember that Rossi was against the move to 4 strokes and wanted to stay with 500cc. This is so well documented that any idea the 990cc was engineered in his favor is outlandish. Btw there is little doubt that he would have been as successful in the following years' titles on a 500cc, had they continued with them.
J4rn0, you remind me of Talpa (not that you're much different) but Talps retorted, if Rossi is so powerful, why didn't he get Indy repaved since he "reasoned" the surface had caused Vale to crash. You're making the same ridiculous attempt to rebut the reality that Rossi is powerful and has enjoyed significant influence over the parity of the sport which has absolutely resulted in results rendering advantages.
Again, Rossi is the most powerful contestant in MotoGP, it has resulted in an inflated artificial record. The debate is how did we get to this point. Your rebuttal is, no, Rossi isn't any more special than anyone, all his accomplishments are on the level. Your grasp on Rossi’s reality in regards to the sport can be summarized in your belief that Ducati did nothing extraordinary or radical for Rossi, that is to say, your beliefs are typical of a fanbase that has little to no grasp in reality. Trying to reason with you about the reality of Rossi's status and influence and how it initially began is impossible if you can't admit or grasp episodes in that trajectory. Maybe Rossi isn't riding a Yamaha, but it's a RCV with Yamaha stickers? Why not? Anything is debatable. That sounds reasonable, right? When you J4rn0 can't process that Ducati bent over backwards, threw everything to try and make Rossi’s stint successful, but you insist they did NOT do anything special, what hope does anyone have in arguing how Rossi became the "Emporer" of MotoGP? Most Rossi fans still insist Rossi didn't fail, Ducati failed.
So Rossi was against 500 2-smokes, proof Rossi isn't powerful? That's your logical conclusion. Therefore, according to you, Rossi has no influence in the sport. Except, Honda had him in mind to ride the best machine ever engineered by HRC. Coincidence, perhaps. Except, you glossed over the fact that this project was contingent on Burgess being part of it. But Rossi was just an afterthought? Like say, Jack and the Beanstalk.
The move to 990 was, as you say, in Honda's agenda well before Rossi, for "industrial" reasons. And after Rossi (how to forget their top man's declaration: "we will beat Valentino Rossi"?), they imposed the 800cc formula pretty much against him, thinking it would favor them as the technological wizards, and jockey-sized Pedrosa.
Ahahaha, it didn't work -- but not for lack of trying on their part. If anybody really wants to find a "manipulator" of the series, albeit fortunately with mixed success, there you have it. But they stay behind the scenes, and probably it's easier to target an individual rider always at the center of the media's attention.
Wait, so you do believe in conspiracy. So you believe Honda chose a rider (Pedrosa) to pilot their great engineering plan at world domination? Wait wait, but you dont accept the exact same .... happened when Honda chose Rossi for the same purpose? Haha, what tangled webs you spin.
It's interesting that you selectively believe in conspiracy theories, in this regard you remind me of MigsAngel. You go around discrediting explanations as conspiracy when it suits you but are blind the the most obvious ones when you chose not to accept how the sport has created Rossi to be their Hulk Hogan. So in this case you accept Honda influenced a formula change to 800s "to beat Rossi" with Pedrosa. But you can't possibly accept that Rossi was the chosen one when Honda influenced a formula change to 990s? Wonderful, how does that logic work in your brain buddy? Seriously, it's fascinating. Busted. Hahaha.
Just yesterday I mentioned it to Arrabi, Honda may have pulled off the coup (see 'your' onspiracy above) to dominate the 800s had they been able to control the tire tiers. Yeah, thats right, if Michelin had an incentive to treat Pedrosa as they did Rossi, free of any competition, and with the blessings of both Dorna and Honda! Oh, you forgot to add this to your Honda theory J4rn0. Had Pedrosa enjoyed exclusive tires made for him like Rossi enjoyed during the 990 domination, it's quite likely Pedrosa would have a string of titles.
Oh ...., imagine that! Imagine 2007, no Bridgestone, only Michelins, where they give Pedrosa the good stuff and nobody else, not even Rossi (who you have conveniently forgotten threatened to quit if he didn't get Bridgestone). I'm fairly certain those FOUR runner-ups for Pedrosa might have been titles. That is the power of exclusive tires! Its why Pedrosa was 'seemingly' so much better than Stoner in 2006. Stoner was competing with 3rd tier Michelins. I cannot overstate this aspect of MotoGP. Rossi competed with top tires, often exclusive developed for him, against rivals like Stoner who often took the field with 2nd, 3rd, tier tires. How can anyone aware of this gloss over the results?
So let's recap: J4rn0 doesn't believe Rossi’s record is artificially inflated due to preferential treatment. Yet, in the very article he posted, there is a revelation that the team Rossi was assigned was contingent on the most successful crew chief signing up, for the manufacturer that had just won the last 6 titles, for a manufacturer that (J4rn0 admits has the power to influence formula changes) for a tire manufacturer that employed a good/bad tier system (then took that a step further to make exclusive one off tires) for a newly signed promoter who understood the idea of 'king building' to expand the sport, but none of this is noteworthy.
J4rn0, it's not a Honda vs Rossi proposition. Dorna saw value in helping both along with a willing tire manufacturer. It's why VRs transition from Honda to Yamaha made little change in his domination because competing with superior tires didn't experience as much as a hiccup. There is not one manipulator, but rather a cohort of them, each with their own power, influence, and agenda. Dorna promotes Rossi, that much is clear!
