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WSBK/WSS - Assen - Practice, Quali, Race

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Bootsakah

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Assen is this weekend boys and girls, early predictions? Last year Bayliss did the double win. Haga DNF'd race 1 but got a 2nd in race 2. Checa in 2008 picked up a 2nd and a 3rd. Max N had a 3rd and a 5th last year. Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think Spies has seen Assen, he was invited to ride the Suzuki there but passed on the offer and created a .... storm if I recall.

The WSS race at Assen last year was one of the greatest races I have ever seen, amazing fight with a large front pack trading the front positions all the way to the end. Pitt barely picked up the win over Rea in a close finish. Hopefully Assen will provide a similar WSS race this year.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Apr 21 2009, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Assen is this weekend boys and girls, early predictions? Last year Bayliss did the double win. Haga DNF'd race 1 but got a 2nd in race 2. Checa in 2008 picked up a 2nd and a 3rd. Max N had a 3rd and a 5th last year. Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think Spies has seen Assen, he was invited to ride the Suzuki there but passed on the offer and created a .... storm if I recall.

The WSS race at Assen last year was one of the greatest races I have ever seen, amazing fight with a large front pack trading the front positions all the way to the end. Pitt barely picked up the win over Rea in a close finish. Hopefully Assen will provide a similar WSS race this year.
I'm with you there. At the chequered flag, there was something like 5 seconds separating Pitt in first place and Haarms in 13th...so that'd be like just over two thirds of the Moto GP grid finishing within 5 seconds of each other as opposed to 5 kilometers.

Haga loves Assen, and so does the Ducati - which follows that Spies will love it and so will the new R1. Spies will have his work cut out to overhaul Nori here, and the Cathedral (even post moderation) is renowned for it's little secrets. Having said that, I think the high corner speed and the flowing nature of the circuit will really suit Ben and he'll be fast all weekend from the off.
 
I'm with you guys, if Haga's on a roll from the last set. Can't wait.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Apr 21 2009, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Assen is this weekend boys and girls, early predictions? Last year Bayliss did the double win. Haga DNF'd race 1 but got a 2nd in race 2. Checa in 2008 picked up a 2nd and a 3rd. Max N had a 3rd and a 5th last year. Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think Spies has seen Assen, he was invited to ride the Suzuki there but passed on the offer and created a .... storm if I recall.

The WSS race at Assen last year was one of the greatest races I have ever seen, amazing fight with a large front pack trading the front positions all the way to the end. Pitt barely picked up the win over Rea in a close finish. Hopefully Assen will provide a similar WSS race this year.
and I was there
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best race Ive ever seen live

I know Ive said it before in that other topic, but cough IM GOING THIS WEEKEND!! cough
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but predictionwise: ben spies and hopefully haga
 
Haga's got so much momentum right now I can't see anything other than a double win for him.

Maybe Neukirchner, Biaggi or Smrz to get a podium too.
 
Considering how much promise has turned into not a lot for this season it looks like you'd be a fool to predict a winner that isn't Haga or Spies, but you never know. Both will be strong i'm sure, but i'll be hoping Shakey and Ten Kate can both make the difference they need to be at the front. Also think Haslam should go well here and hopefully stay ahead of Hopper.

In SS, i'm hoping Laverty's style and experience get him another win!
 
Spies clear by 4/10ths in FP1\
Hopkins WTF

FP1:
1 Spies B Yamaha YZF R1 1'39.687
2 Neukirchner M Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 1'40.050
3 Checa C Honda CBR1000RR 1'40.143
4 Haslam L Honda CBR1000RR 1'40.147
5 Laconi R Ducati 1098R 1'40.369
6 Haga N Ducati 1098R 1'40.417
7 Kiyonari R Honda CBR1000RR 1'40.571
8 Muggeridge K Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 1'40.693
9 Sykes T Yamaha YZF R1 1'40.696
10 Fabrizio M Ducati 1098R 1'40.835
11 Rea J Honda CBR1000RR 1'40.872
12 Byrne S Ducati 1098R 1'40.914
13 Kagayama Y Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 1'41.017
14 Nakano S Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'41.108
15 Corser T BMW S1000 RR 1'41.111
16 Smrz J Ducati 1098R 1'41.170
17 Biaggi M Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'41.202
18 Hill T Honda CBR1000RR 1'41.289
19 Xaus R BMW S1000 RR 1'41.621
20 Roberts B Ducati 1098R 1'41.859
21 Salom D Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'42.134
22 Scassa L Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'42.223
23 Checa D Yamaha YZF R1 1'42.388
24 Tamada M Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'42.442
25 Iannuzzo V Honda CBR1000RR 1'42.980
26 Easton S Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'43.008
27 Baiocco M Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'43.330
28 Hopkins J Honda CBR1000RR 1'44.396
29 Resch R Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 1'45.276
 
Hopkins cant catch a break, in the hospital with dislocated hip after a get off early in FP1
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Apr 24 2009, 05:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hopkins cant catch a break, in the hospital with dislocated hip after a get off early in FP1

Hopkins has been royally screwed by 2 seasons on the 800s. He brakes way too early and turns in way too soon.

Besides 2007, Assen hasn't been kind to him.

What can you say about Spies? .4 clear in FP1 and it's his first time to the circuit. Why didn't I get some of his skills?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Apr 24 2009, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hopkins has been royally screwed by 2 seasons on the 800s. He brakes way too early and turns in way too soon.

Besides 2007, Assen hasn't been kind to him.

What can you say about Spies? .4 clear in FP1 and it's his first time to the circuit. Why didn't I get some of his skills?
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I have always heard Hopkins was a late braker, maybe I have heard wrong. Haslam is tearing it up on the Stiggy Honda, so Hopkins knows what its capable of. I think the ghost of Assen has gotten to him, 2 years in a row of crashing there.

Assen is going to be do or die for Ten Kate, "home" track and so far their lackluster year has been overshadowed by the new Stiggy boys. Looks like they might be on track though.

Spies, again looking great for being new to the track. Haga does very well at Assen however, and we all know he doesn't need pole to win races. I would be happy to see either rider win, I just want a bang out fight from start to finish!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Apr 24 2009, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have always heard Hopkins was a late braker, maybe I have heard wrong. Haslam is tearing it up on the Stiggy Honda, so Hopkins knows what its capable of. I think the ghost of Assen has gotten to him, 2 years in a row of crashing there.

Hopkins is a late braker but he's also a highly skilled small displacement rider. He was spotted for his abilities on small displacement machines. FX was his only high displacement triumph.

If you watch the end of Valencia race 2 (the only substantial camera time Hopkins has gotten), you will see that Hopkins has an overwhelming urge to brake early and turn in early. The SBK regulars are practically locking both wheels all the way to the apex. Hopper can't ride through them so he coasts through the apex then meagerly opens the throttle b/c he's riding a tight-in wide-out line.

I'll see if I can post some video. Hopkins 800 style is hideous to watch on a Stiggy CBR1000. I'm hoping his latest crash happened while trying to late-apex.
 
Qualifying #1
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1. Ben Spies USA Yamaha Italia YZF R1 1min 38.747s
2. Jakub Smrz CZE Guandalini Racing Ducati 1098R 1min 39.055s
3. Yukio Kagayama JPN Alstare Suzuki GSX-R 1000K9 1min 39.128s
4. Carlos Checa ESP HANNspree Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 39.141s
5. Michel Fabrizio ITA Ducati Xerox 1098R 1min 39.238s
6. Regis Laconi FRA DFX Corse Ducati 1098R 1min 39.246s
7. Max Neukirchner GER Alstare Suzuki GSX-R 1000K9 1min 39.265s
8. Jonathan Rea GBR HANNspree Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 39.359s
9. Ryuichi Kiyonari JPN Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 39.506s
10. Leon Haslam GBR Stiggy Motorsport Honda CBR1000RR 1min 39.585s
11. Troy Corser AUS BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 39.597s
12. Noriyuki Haga JPN Ducati Xerox 1098R 1min 39.621s
13. Shane Byrne GBR Sterilgarda Ducati 1098R 1min 39.784s
14. Karl Muggeridge AUS Celani Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 39.897s
15. Tom Sykes GBR Yamaha Italia YZF R1 1min 39.899s
16. Max Biaggi ITA Aprilia Racing RSV-4 1min 39.934s
17. Shinya Nakano JPN Aprilia Racing RSV-4 1min 40.199s
18. Ruben Xaus ESP BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 40.349s
19. Tommy Hill GBR HANNspree Althea Honda CBR1000RR 1min 40.617s
20. David Salom ESP Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 40.853s
21. Brendan Roberts AUS Guandalini Racing Ducati 1098R 1min 40.944s
22. Vittorio Iannuzzo ITA SCI Honda CBR1000RR 1mins 41.014s
23. Luca Scassa ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 41.085s
24. Makoto Tamada JPN Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 1min 41.165s
25. Stuart Easton GBR Kawasaki SRT ZX-0R 1min 41.355s
26. Matteo Baiocco ITA PSG-1 Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 41.363s
27. David Checa ESP Yamaha France GMT 94 1min 41.823s
28. Roland Resch AUT TKR Switzerland Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 41.978s
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Stevo @ Apr 21 2009, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Haga's got so much momentum right now I can't see anything other than a double win for him.

Maybe Neukirchner, Biaggi or Smrz to get a podium too.
Haga may be on a roll, but so was Spies and we saw how that ended up. The last 3 years has not been good to Haga at Assen. 3 years=6 races. He has 4 DNF's and 2 finishes.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Apr 24 2009, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Haga may be on a roll, but so was Spies and we saw how that ended up. The last 3 years has not been good to Haga at Assen. 3 years=6 races. He has 4 DNF's and 2 finishes.
Hoping history repeats itself...DNF for Haga, but no injuries, just to even out points.

Spies for the double I hope.

Bummed about Hopkins. Geez, can we have any more bad luck. Why is it that when he crashes it like a season ending injury? Has the guy ever ridden a season with no pain? A dislocated hip? Are you fing kidding me?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marijke @ Apr 21 2009, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>and I was there
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best race Ive ever seen live

I know Ive said it before in that other topic, but cough IM GOING THIS WEEKEND!! cough
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but predictionwise: ben spies and hopefully haga

Excellent, can't wait to see pics. Get a good one of Spies crossing the finish line 2.5 seconds over 2nd place.
 
Waiting for Pete's comment....


which I'll probably agree with.
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Give the ride to Westy whilst he's away.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Apr 25 2009, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Waiting for Pete's comment....


which I'll probably agree with.
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Give the ride to Westy whilst he's away.


I'd shorten that to "give the bike to Westy"

Pete
 

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