WSBK - Vallelunga (contains spoilers)

Race 1
1 41 Haga N. (JPN) Yamaha YZF-R1 39'25.030 (150,148 kph)
2 3 Biaggi M. (ITA) Ducati 1098 RS 08 0.129
3 11 Corser T. (AUS) Yamaha YZF-R1 0.535
4 76 Neukirchner M. (GER) Suzuki GSX-R1000 5.188
5 7 Checa C. (ESP) Honda CBR1000RR 6.693
6 21 Bayliss T. (AUS) Ducati 1098 F08 7.993
7 84 Fabrizio M. (ITA) Ducati 1098 F08 16.976
8 44 Rolfo R. (ITA) Honda CBR1000RR 18.359
9 34 Kagayama Y. (JPN) Suzuki GSX-R1000 19.214
10 38 Nakatomi S. (JPN) Yamaha YZF-R1 19.386

Race 2
1 41 Haga N. (JPN) Yamaha YZF-R1 39'10.265 (151,091 kph)
2 84 Fabrizio M. (ITA) Ducati 1098 F08 1.507
3 11 Corser T. (AUS) Yamaha YZF-R1 2.268
4 76 Neukirchner M. (GER) Suzuki GSX-R1000 11.813
5 7 Checa C. (ESP) Honda CBR1000RR 17.922
6 10 Nieto F. (ESP) Suzuki GSX-R1000 18.281
7 34 Kagayama Y. (JPN) Suzuki GSX-R1000 19.368
8 38 Nakatomi S. (JPN) Yamaha YZF-R1 19.717
9 55 Laconi R. (FRA) Kawasaki ZX-10R 23.868
10 44 Rolfo R. (ITA) Honda CBR1000RR 24.198

Race 1
Firstly, I was so glad to see it was a dry race, I'm getting tired of wet racing lately. Record lap times were put in, which is great considering they did not have any dry time during qualifying. Outstanding performance by Haga in both races. Corser also looked good on the Yamaha, but as always, he plays it conservative and doesn't take much risk. Great ride by Biaggi in front of the home crowd, good to see him bring that satellite Ducati to a podium in front of the factory Ducati's. But I felt let down when he didn't attempt to pass Haga towards the end.

Race 2
Oh my god, what a terrible accident at the start. It looks like Biaggi collided with Corser or Haga as they came across. Watching Biaggi fishtail like that was scary. Glad he and Sofuglu didn't get hurt terribly bad. Another fine performance by Haga, almost flawless to the end. Bayliss, what the hell man, you had the championship in the bag, strange low side that he had. Solid ride for Corser again on the Yamaha, but again, not much risk taking. Fabrizio had a great ride, to pick up a gifted 2nd.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Sep 23 2008, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Race 1
1 41 Haga N. (JPN) Yamaha YZF-R1 39'25.030 (150,148 kph)
2 3 Biaggi M. (ITA) Ducati 1098 RS 08 0.129
3 11 Corser T. (AUS) Yamaha YZF-R1 0.535
4 76 Neukirchner M. (GER) Suzuki GSX-R1000 5.188
5 7 Checa C. (ESP) Honda CBR1000RR 6.693
6 21 Bayliss T. (AUS) Ducati 1098 F08 7.993
7 84 Fabrizio M. (ITA) Ducati 1098 F08 16.976
8 44 Rolfo R. (ITA) Honda CBR1000RR 18.359
9 34 Kagayama Y. (JPN) Suzuki GSX-R1000 19.214
10 38 Nakatomi S. (JPN) Yamaha YZF-R1 19.386

Race 2
1 41 Haga N. (JPN) Yamaha YZF-R1 39'10.265 (151,091 kph)
2 84 Fabrizio M. (ITA) Ducati 1098 F08 1.507
3 11 Corser T. (AUS) Yamaha YZF-R1 2.268
4 76 Neukirchner M. (GER) Suzuki GSX-R1000 11.813
5 7 Checa C. (ESP) Honda CBR1000RR 17.922
6 10 Nieto F. (ESP) Suzuki GSX-R1000 18.281
7 34 Kagayama Y. (JPN) Suzuki GSX-R1000 19.368
8 38 Nakatomi S. (JPN) Yamaha YZF-R1 19.717
9 55 Laconi R. (FRA) Kawasaki ZX-10R 23.868
10 44 Rolfo R. (ITA) Honda CBR1000RR 24.198

Race 1
Firstly, I was so glad to see it was a dry race, I'm getting tired of wet racing lately. Record lap times were put in, which is great considering they did not have any dry time during qualifying. Outstanding performance by Haga in both races. Corser also looked good on the Yamaha, but as always, he plays it conservative and doesn't take much risk. Great ride by Biaggi in front of the home crowd, good to see him bring that satellite Ducati to a podium in front of the factory Ducati's. But I felt let down when he didn't attempt to pass Haga towards the end.

Race 2
Oh my god, what a terrible accident at the start. It looks like Biaggi collided with Corser or Haga as they came across. Watching Biaggi fishtail like that was scary. Glad he and Sofuglu didn't get hurt terribly bad. Another fine performance by Haga, almost flawless to the end. Bayliss, what the hell man, you had the championship in the bag, strange low side that he had. Solid ride for Corser again on the Yamaha, but again, not much risk taking. Fabrizio had a great ride, to pick up a gifted 2nd.


Great ride by Haga..too bad he can't do much about the championship. Hope he can get Bayliss seat next year with Xeroc Duc..and what a performance from Biaggi though he was very unlucky to be the victim of other hot header

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (V5Stroker @ Sep 23 2008, 09:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Great ride by Haga..too bad he can't do much about the championship. Hope he can get Bayliss seat next year with Xeroc Duc
Haga has got Bayliss' ride next year. I just want to see him win the SBK title.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (V5Stroker @ Sep 23 2008, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Great ride by Haga..too bad he can't do much about the championship. Hope he can get Bayliss seat next year with Xeroc Duc..and what a performance from Biaggi though he was very unlucky to be the victim of other hot header

Is it just me,......or does WSBK kick the crap out of Moto GP for entertainment?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mjpartyboy @ Sep 23 2008, 09:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Haga has got Bayliss' ride next year. I just want to see him win the SBK title.
I'm hearing that he hasn't actually signed anything yet

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Burky @ Sep 23 2008, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is it just me,......or does WSBK kick the crap out of Moto GP for entertainment?


For entertainment, ya its alot more exciting

Final lap Race 1 (These vids can be seen in high quality on the SBK youtube page)
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Final lap Race 2
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Laverty and Pitt tango
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R1 SF, you youtube links arn't working. (nevermind)

Yeah WSBK is pretty damn exciting. This was a good week for them. Too bad for Biaggi. I don't have the hate most people on here have for him. Listening to him talk after the races is kind of wierd. I expect the dragon of saten to come flying out of his mouth spouting off more .... than Pedrosa could swing a stick at. But he comes accross as happpy to be there on the podium and happy to be racing. Don't shoot me for saying this but I kind of want him to do well.

Besides that both races were very entertaining, much better than 99% of the MOTOGP races this year.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Sep 23 2008, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>R1 SF, you youtube links arn't working. (nevermind)

Yeah WSBK is pretty damn exciting. This was a good week for them. Too bad for Biaggi. I don't have the hate most people on here have for him. Listening to him talk after the races is kind of wierd. I expect the dragon of saten to come flying out of his mouth spouting off more .... than Pedrosa could swing a stick at. But he comes accross as happpy to be there on the podium and happy to be racing. Don't shoot me for saying this but I kind of want him to do well.

Besides that both races were very entertaining, much better than 99% of the MOTOGP races this year.

I agree, I wanted Biaggi to do well also, at least in front of his home crowd. Lots of Italian fans had shown up to watch him. I still don't know why he didn't try to put a pass on Haga at race 1 towards the end. My guess was he didn't want to risk passing a guy that is hard as hell to pass and have another incident like last year in Misano (i think it was) when Biaggi more or less took out Haga on the last lap (although it could be argued they took eachother out). I'm not a huge fan of his either, but he certainly seems a lot more humble in WSBK.

MotoGP needs to do something, I agree it has tons of talent and amazing machinery, but the entertainment value as far as actual racing action is on par with F1. WSBK and WSS are both amazing series where the competition is tight most races. Even the great Rossi talks constantly about having more closer racing in MotoGP. I'm all for changes that make the racing closer. I can give 2 ..... about prototype racing and tire manufacturers.

Fantastic day,not far off with what you said Burky........just imagine what 09 will bring.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Sep 23 2008, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>MotoGP needs to do something, I agree it has tons of talent and amazing machinery, but the entertainment value as far as actual racing action is on par with F1. WSBK and WSS are both amazing series where the competition is tight most races.
Agreed. I'm not convinced Moto GP has the better riders. Bayliss proved the point with his one off Ducati ride in Moto GP, and I wonder how many of the Moto GP paddock would cope with Nori Haga trying to get on their bike too at 150mph!

Did anyone else notice how fast the 1st 3 corners seemed to be, brill camera work.
Never seen bikes looking so fast, i wish MotoGP would go there.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (V5Stroker @ Sep 23 2008, 09:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Great ride by Haga..too bad he can't do much about the championship. Hope he can get Bayliss seat next year with Xeroc Duc..and what a performance from Biaggi though he was very unlucky to be the victim of other hot header

Victim of another hot header???

Kenan was just taking the first turn completely normally, he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, it just seemed like one of those freak accidents that was caused by no one.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Haga @ Sep 23 2008, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Victim of another hot header???

Kenan was just taking the first turn completely normally, he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, it just seemed like one of those freak accidents that was caused by no one.

I think the "hot header" he was referring to is what caused Biaggi to fishtail and then eventually get ... piped by Sofuoglu. When I watched the race it was hard to tell, looked like either Biaggi ran into the back of a factory Yamaha (not sure if it was Corser or Haga) or one of them cut in front of him.

I feel bad for Sofuoglu, guy has had a nightmare season. Anyone know if Ten Kate are keeping him on for next year?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Sep 24 2008, 06:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think the "hot header" he was referring to is what caused Biaggi to fishtail and then eventually get ... piped by Sofuoglu. When I watched the race it was hard to tell, looked like either Biaggi ran into the back of a factory Yamaha (not sure if it was Corser or Haga) or one of them cut in front of him.

I feel bad for Sofuoglu, guy has had a nightmare season. Anyone know if Ten Kate are keeping him on for next year?

I believe Sofuoglu going back to Supersport next year.

Great double from Haga.