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WSBK rd1 PI

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Feb 28 2010, 05:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Very happy to see Guintoli at the pointy end. He's grown on me a bit. No nonsense kind of guy who races hard and stays out of trouble. Alstare Suzuki look really good, Batta must be over the moon.

The factory shill collects a 6th in race 1 and 4th in race 2.
I am in agreement with you regarding guintoli, and said at the time that ducati should have kept him on at pramac, rather than suppo dismissing him contemptuously after a great performance in the rain.
 
2nd race very exciting at the end. I wanted to see both the front group and the massive 2nd group, but there was too much happening at once. An occasion where one channel dedicated to the 2nd pack would have given great viewing. maybe in future?

Right now Ducati and Suzuki are dominating while Yamaha looks stuffed.(Gee they are missing Spies, I bet!) Aprilia very poor after a strong warmup. BMW only slightly competitive with a lone corser. Should XAUS RETIRE? pROBABLY.
I,m sure Honda and Yamaha will be strong at other rounds. If so, this is shaping up as a great season, with possibly 8+ Winners throughout the year
 
A few shots from the weekend.
Lots of great racing today.


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Ok guys sounds like the races were awesome last night. mick d did an ok job of commentating. But no one posted the results - that i can find- you all must have been overcome with excitement and then fallen asleep
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To make it easy please post the results here. and if you want a little report
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Youll make a little halfpint very happy
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Results of World Superbike Race 1 from Phillip Island:

Pos No. Rider Country Bike Diff

1 91 L. Haslam GBR Suzuki GSX-R1000
2 84 M. Fabrizio ITA Ducati 1098R 0.004
3 41 N. Haga JPN Ducati 1098R 0.769
4 65 J. Rea GBR Honda CBR1000RR 10.201
5 3 M. Biaggi ITA Aprilia RSV4 1000 F. 10.782
6 50 S. Guintoli FRA Suzuki GSX-R1000 11.079
7 7 C. Checa ESP Ducati 1098R 11.208
8 96 J. Smrz CZE Ducati 1098R 16.522
9 11 T. Corser AUS BMW S1000 RR 20.291
10 57 L. Lanzi ITA Ducati 1098R 26.352
11 2 L. Camier GBR Aprilia RSV4 1000 F. 29.775
12 76 M. Neukirchner GER Honda CBR1000RR 30.155
13 66 T. Sykes GBR Kawasaki ZX 10R 31.951
14 67 S. Byrne GBR Ducati 1098R 31.957
15 88 A. Pitt AUS BMW S1000 RR 55.082
16 31 V. Iannuzzo ITA Honda CBR1000RR 1'10.932
17 15 M. Baiocco ITA Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'11.237
18 95 R. Hayden USA Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'17.357
19 25 J. Brookes AUS Honda CBR1000RR 6 Laps
RET 35 C. Crutchlow GBR Yamaha YZF R1 17 Laps
RET 77 C. Vermeulen AUS Kawasaki ZX 10R 19 Laps
RET 52 J. Toseland GBR Yamaha YZF R1 20 Laps


Results of World Superbikes race 2 at Phillip Island:

Pos No. Rider Country Bike Diff

1 7 C. Checa ESP Ducati 1098R
2 91 L. Haslam GBR Suzuki GSX-R1000 0.307
3 84 M. Fabrizio ITA Ducati 1098R 0.434
4 50 S. Guintoli FRA Suzuki GSX-R1000 0.837
5 41 N. Haga JPN Ducati 1098R 3.453
6 65 J. Rea GBR Honda CBR1000RR 11.530
7 11 T. Corser AUS BMW S1000 RR 12.026
8 3 M. Biaggi ITA Aprilia RSV4 1000 F. 13.068
9 35 C. Crutchlow GBR Yamaha YZF R1 14.401
10 52 J. Toseland GBR Yamaha YZF R1 14.707
11 2 L. Camier GBR Aprilia RSV4 1000 F. 14.743
12 67 S. Byrne GBR Ducati 1098R 14.851
13 57 L. Lanzi ITA Ducati 1098R 15.143
14 25 J. Brookes AUS Honda CBR1000RR 30.947
15 88 A. Pitt AUS BMW S1000 RR 41.855
16 76 M. Neukirchner GER Honda CBR1000RR 48.844
17 31 V. Iannuzzo ITA Honda CBR1000RR 1'06.866
18 95 R. Hayden USA Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'07.751
RET 15 M. Baiocco ITA Kawasaki ZX 10R 5 Laps
RET 66 T. Sykes GBR Kawasaki ZX 10R 9 Laps
RET 77 C. Vermeulen AUS Kawasaki ZX 10R 15 Laps
RET 96 J. Smrz CZE Ducati 1098R 16 Laps



Results of the World Supersport race at Phillip Island:

Pos No. Rider Country Bike Diff

1 50 E. Laverty IRL Honda CBR600RR
2 26 J. Lascorz ESP Kawasaki ZX-6R 4.359
3 54 K. Sofuoglu TUR Honda CBR600RR 4.500
4 25 D. Salom ESP Triumph Daytona 675 11.779
5 99 F. Foret FRA Kawasaki ZX-6R 17.266
6 55 M. Roccoli ITA Honda CBR600RR 25.034
7 127 R. Harms DEN Honda CBR600RR 27.834
8 40 J. DiSalvo USA Triumph Daytona 675 30.102
9 117 M. Praia POR Honda CBR600RR 31.931
10 4 G. Rea GBR Honda CBR600RR 31.991
11 37 K. Fujiwara JPN Kawasaki ZX-6R 40.552
12 7 C. Davies GBR Triumph Daytona 675 40.556
13 16 S. Charpentier FRA Triumph Daytona 675 1'28.553
14 33 P. Cazzola ITA Honda CBR600RR 1 Lap
15 9 D. Dell'Omo ITA Honda CBR600RR 2 Laps
RET 51 M. Pirro ITA Honda CBR600RR 8 Laps
RET 5 A. Lundh SWE Honda CBR600RR 14 Laps
 
Phillip Island - Race results (1)

Full race results (1) for the opening round of the World Superbike Championship at Phillip Island, Australia.
1. Leon Haslam GBR Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 34mins 13.435s 22 laps
2. Michel Fabrizio ITA Ducati Xerox 1198 +0.004s
3. Noriyuki Haga JPN Ducati Xerox 1198 +0.769s
4. Jonathan Rea GBR Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR +10.201s
5. Max Biaggi ITA Aprilia Alitalia Racing RSV-4 +10.782s
6. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 +11.079s
7. Carlos Checa ESP Althea Ducati 1198 +11.208s
8. Jakub Smrz CZE PATA B&G Racing Ducati 1198 +16.522s
9. Troy Corser AUS BMW Motorrad S1000RR +20.291s
10. Lorenzo Lanzi ITA DFX Ducati 1198 +26.352s
11. Leon Camier GBR Aprilia Alitalia Racing RSV-4 +29.775s
12. Max Neukirchner GER Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR +30.155s
13. Tom Sykes GBR Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R +31.951s
14. Shane Byrne GBR Althea Ducati 1198 +31.957s
15. Andrew Pitt AUS Reitwagen BMW S1000RR +55.082s
16. Vittorio Iannuzzo ITA SCI Honda CBR1000RR +1min 10.932s
17. Matteo Baiocco ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R +1min 11.237s
18. Roger Lee Hayden USA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R +1min 17.357s
19. Joshua Brookes AUS Echo-CRS Honda CBR1000RR +6 laps

Not Classified

20. Cal Crutchlow GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda YZF R1 5 laps completed
21. Chris Vermeulen AUS Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 3 laps completed
22. James Toseland GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda YZF R1 2 laps completed

Did Not Start

Ruben Xaus ESP BMW Motorrad S1000RR
Roland Resch AUT Reitwagen BMW S1000RR



Phillip Island - Race results (2)

Full race results (2) for the opening round of the World Superbike Championship at Phillip Island, Australia.
1. Carlos Checa ESP Althea Ducati 1198 34mins 16.428secs 22 laps
2. Leon Haslam GBR Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 +0.307s
3. Michel Fabrizio ITA Ducati Xerox 1198 +0.434s
4. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 +0.837s
5. Noriyuki Haga JPN Ducati Xerox 1198 +3.453s
6. Jonathan Rea GBR Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR +11.530s
7. Troy Corser AUS BMW Motorrad S1000RR +12.068s
8. Max Biaggi ITA Aprilia Alitalia Racing RSV-4 +13.782s
9. Cal Crutchlow GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda YZF R1 +14.401s
10. James Toseland GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda YZF R1 +14.707s
11. Leon Camier GBR Aprilia Alitalia Racing RSV-4 +14.743s
12. Shane Byrne GBR Althea Ducati 1198 +14.851s
13. Lorenzo Lanzi ITA DFX Ducati 1198 +15.143s
14. Joshua Brookes AUS Echo-CRS Honda CBR1000RR +30.947s
15. Andrew Pitt AUS Reitwagen BMW S1000RR +41.866s
16. Max Neukirchner GER Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR +48.844s
17. Vittorio Iannuzzo ITA SCI Honda CBR1000RR +1min 06.888s
18. Roger Lee Hayden USA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R +1min 07.761s

Not Classified

19. Matteo Baiocco ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 17 laps completed
20. Tom Sykes GBR Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 13 laps completed
21. Chris Vermeulen AUS Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 7 laps completed
22. Jakub Smrz CZE PATA B&G Racing Ducati 1198 6 laps completed

Did Not Start

Ruben Xaus ESP BMW Motorrad S1000RR
Roland Resch AUT Reitwagen BMW S1000RR



RIDERS STANDINGS

LEON HASLAM SUZUKI 45
MICHEL FABRIZIO DUCATI 36
CARLOS CHECA DUCATI 34
NORIYUKI HAGA DUCATI 27
SYLVAIN GUINTOLI SUZUKI 23
JONATHAN REA HONDA 23
MAX BIAGGI APRILIA 19
TROY CORSER BMW 16
LEON CAMIER APRILIA 10
LORENZO LANZI DUCATI 9
JAKUB SMRZ DUCATI 8
CAL CRUTCHLOW YAMAHA 7
JAMES TOSELAND YAMAHA 6
SHANE BYRNE DUCATI 6
MAX NEUKIRCHNER HONDA 4
TOM SYKES KAWASAKI 3
JOSHUA BROOKES HONDA 2
ANDREW PITT BMW 2


WSS: Phillip Island - Race results

Full race results for the opening round of the 2010 World Supersport Championship at Phillip Island, Australia
1. Eugene Laverty IRL Parkalgar Honda CBR600RR 21 laps
2. Joan Lascorz ESP Kawasaki Motocard ZX-6R +4.359s
3. Kenan Sofuoglu TUR HANNspree Ten Kate Honda CBR600RR +4.500s
4. David Salom ESP Triumph BE1 Racing 675 +11.779s
5. Fabien Foret FRA Lorenzini Kawasaki ZX-6R +17.266s
6. Massimo Roccoli ITA Intermoto Czech Honda CBR600RR +25.034s
7. Robbin Harms DEN Harms Benjan Honda CBR600RR +27.834s
8. Jason Di Salvo USA Triumph BE1 Racing 675 +30.102s
9. Miguel Praia POR Parkalgar Honda CBR600RR +31.931s
10. Gino Rea GBR Intermoto Czech Honda CBR600RR +31.991s
11. Katsuaki Fujiwara JPN Kawasaki Motocard ZX-6R +40.552s
12. Chaz Davies GBR Triumph BE1 Racing 675 +40.556s
13. Sebastien Charpentier FRA Triumph BE1 Racing 675 +1min 28.553s
14. Paola Cazzola ITA Kuja Honda CBR600RR +1 lap
15. Danilo Dell'Omo ITA Kuja Honda CBR600RR +2 laps

Not Classified

16. Michele Pirro ITA HANNspree Ten Kate Honda CBR600RR 13 laps completed
17. Alexander Lundh SWE Cresto Guide Honda CBR600RR 7 laps completed
 
great races
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close n clean racing at its best !

On the other hand, what on earth has Suzuki got for us this season! Then again PI is not one of the toughest tracks out there. Hope we're in for a great season and close racing
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J708 @ Feb 28 2010, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>great races
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close n clean racing at its best !

On the other hand, what on earth has Suzuki got for us this season! Then again PI is not one of the toughest tracks out there. Hope we're in for a great season and close racing
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In what respect? It's notoriously hard on tyres and is very tricky to learn. Add in the high speeds, the ever present avine hazards and the ridiculously unpredictable weather. I've always regarded Phillip Island as a real test and indication of a riders abilities.

Two great races. Perhaps Suzuki have realigned their support. Weren't Yoshi Suzuki receiving greater factory props than Alstare at one point? Taking nothing away from Leon of course who rode brilliantly all weekend. So good to see Sylvan back, and with a competitive ride. He will have learned a fair bit last year about the bike prior to being 'Josh Brooked'.

As skeptical as I was about the 200cc advantage afforded to the twins over the fours, it seems that the balance is as good as it has ever been.

It'd be nice to see Checa turn in a few more performances like this - he was so damn erratic on the Ten Kate blade.
 
Would anyone like to paste a link to the race highlights if availible,I cannot make head or tails of this Fox thing.
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Thank you in advance.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Feb 28 2010, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In what respect? It's notoriously hard on tyres and is very tricky to learn. Add in the high speeds, the ever present avine hazards and the ridiculously unpredictable weather. I've always regarded Phillip Island as a real test and indication of a riders abilities.

Two great races. Perhaps Suzuki have realigned their support. Weren't Yoshi Suzuki receiving greater factory props than Alstare at one point? Taking nothing away from Leon of course who rode brilliantly all weekend. So good to see Sylvan back, and with a competitive ride. He will have learned a fair bit last year about the bike prior to being 'Josh Brooked'.

As skeptical as I was about the 200cc advantage afforded to the twins over the fours, it seems that the balance is as good as it has ever been.

It'd be nice to see Checa turn in a few more performances like this - he was so damn erratic on the Ten Kate blade.


I always thought PI was less tricky than tracks like Imola, Twin Ring, Seca , Nurbur and Portimao. I guess for me tough tracks mean tighter corners rather than faster ones. Then again I'm a Haga fan and I'm a little biased since the Samurai is at his best on corners rather than straights. Talking about Haga, that 10th to 3rd position in both races was quiet nice!
 
I'm guessing Haslam is going to be up there all season and chased down by Xerox Ducati to replace Haga for next year.
Another guess,Biaggi might win the whole championship this year,if Haslam doesn't.
And the Yamahas...i guess Spies is quite a tallent after all.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mastodon @ Feb 28 2010, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>awesome races. really happy to see Checa win. but now we have to wait another month.
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if you don't like waiting and need your fix you got v8 bahrain, wrc mexico, irc brazil, f1 bahrain and aussie, or you can always download the calender at motogp chat for a detailed schedule
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Feb 28 2010, 05:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As skeptical as I was about the 200cc advantage afforded to the twins over the fours, it seems that the balance is as good as it has ever been.

I'm starting to believe that WSBK is rev-limited.

I know, it seems impossible, and I have no idea why they wouldn't just come right out with it, but if you crunch the numbers, there is no way these bikes should be relatively equal. The Ducati and the Suzuki should actually have the lowest peak horsepower figures in the field, while the BMW should have about a 30hp advantage over both.

I've never really mentioned it b/c it seemed somewhat unbelievable (even to me), but Noyes revealed something very very interesting in his article about MotoGP. He was making a comparison between the bore measurements of production machines and the 81mm bore-limited 1000cc MotoGP bikes. The comparison was innocuous enough until he pointed out something only an expert would notice. He revealed that WSBK once had a rule that rev-limited bikes with bore/stroke ratios over 1.5, but that it had mysteriously disappeared without any announcements sometime prior to the BMWs homologation. I believe he said the rev limit was 14,000rpm.

That rev-limit is certainly a relic of the 750 era b/c most of the bikes would never achieve those rpm figures even if they were tuned to MotoGP standards. Furthermore, all of the 750s would have been rev-limited to 14,000rpm.

Also, if you look at the dimensions for the 999R engine. It shouldn't have been competitive with any of the 4 cylinder bikes of that era. Also, the 999R had special friction fighting modifications like extra piston rings in order to help twins compete. Those mods were probably granted to Ducati so they could reach the rev limit. The additional 200cc was basically designed to let Ducati have a lower rev limit. The bore barely went up, almost all of the displacement was gained by stroking the 999R.

Again, I have absolutely no idea why they wouldn't be forthright with the information, but the 5.5mm discrepancy between the Suzuki and the BMW makes it almost inconceivable that those two bikes could share the same track without a rev limit. The BMW should have a huge power advantage, yet the BMW finishes in the midpack or the rear.

Based upon the Suzuki's engine dimensions and the 999R's engine dimensions, the rev-limit is probably 12,000 rpm and 1200cc twins are at 10,000rpm.

Let me be clear, I have absolutely no idea how they could possibly be suppressing a rev-limit for the last 7 years, but it is part of the sport's history, and the emergence of the 80mm BMW and Suzuki's continuation of the 74.5mm engine makes it inconceivable that those bikes could share the same track without a rev-limit.
 
Wow, Checa rode like a madman that second race. The others didn't have the pace to keep him behind their tailpipes.

Haslem almost got the double. Is Suzuki for real? I'm eager to see how they perform in Portimao.

Fabi seems like 'the man' at Duc now. Haga was smart not to push for wins because he probably was still hurting from the incident with Xaus. Though, I'm not sure Haga has it in him to contend this year. Now that Fabi has shown the speed so far this year, Duc might throw the support behind him instead of Haga.

Looks like Yamaha still have some things to work out. Not good that both riders took a spill in race 1, but they recovered to salvage some points in race 2.

Rea seems like he is still in 'potential' mode and doesn't have the consistency yet. He probably won't take the title this season, but definitely a champion in waiting.
 

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