Will 2010 MotoGP season be a boring one?

Firstly this thread is ......, we all know the 800s are boring but wait in hope for some action

trying to blame vr for this is probably the most ridiculous thing I have read here, and there's been a lot of .... posted here

Barry the great, you outdone yourself once again as you coat yourself in moron juice! Vr boring??? Don't worry people most Aussies unlike Barry know that the world is not flat

sillythread

i don't think it will be boring
i like close racing and may the best man win it may help if this year if we get 4 Aliens +1

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Mar 19 2010, 05:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>sillythread
The same article has already been used to start an earlier thread
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gui22a @ Mar 19 2010, 02:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, I'm sure there is more than we can see inside MotoGP backstage.

Rossi have always been protected by Dorna and their ....... regulations. IMO, it was fun and cool to watch Rossi until 2006. Thereafter, MotoGP became intoxicated by political and economical interests.

I have heard a history where Yamaha is using a satellite guide device to change M1 settings on the fly, fine tuning the bike TC and some other stuff perfectly for each lap stage. I know how crazy that can sound, and although I can't confirm, it's completely possible to achieve that.

If that is true, Rossi is the most hypocrite guy on the world.



No, I didn't, it's so fun I could not miss. I'm serious. Alonso battled Vettel until last laps and that was good, so much better than watch Rossi opening a 25 seconds gap to Stoner or anyone else @ 2nd.

"I have heard a history where Yamaha is using a satellite guide device to change M1 settings on the fly, fine tuning the bike TC and some other stuff perfectly for each lap stage. I know how crazy that can sound, and although I can't confirm, it's completely possible to achieve that."


Electronic suspention is banned isn't it?
But,on the other hand the Yamaha has a different kind of antiwheelie technique with sensors on the frontwheel which is allowed.And most others have sensors on rearwheel?Anyway,i read something about that on motogpmatters.

The big thing to Yamaha's and their riders advantage is that they haven't changed route like Ducati and Honda with their new engine and suspention.
This is giving above all Rossi/Lorenzo/Edwards a headstart.They don't have too many dnf's to look back on either so there is plenty of data to dig from.
This is why Rossi will edge out Stoner this year,even if Stoner is healthy and lightning-fast.And THAT might be boring to me,as i see Stoner and Ducati as the underdog.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Anders GUZZI @ Mar 19 2010, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>"The big thing to Yamaha's and their riders advantage is that they haven't changed route like Ducati and Honda with their new engine and suspention.
This is giving above all Rossi/Lorenzo/Edwards a headstart.They don't have too many dnf's to look back on either so there is plenty of data to dig from.
This is why Rossi will edge out Stoner this year,even if Stoner is healthy and lightning-fast.And THAT might be boring to me,as i see Stoner and Ducati as the underdog.

"Stoner put in a late burst of fast laps to lead the field with an hour and a half to go, but Rossi responded in the closing six minutes to lead the day one timesheets by 0.315sec from the 2007 world champion.
Nevertheless, Stoner set four laps in the 1min 55sec bracket, compared with only two for Rossi"

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/157829/1/...ar_so_good.html

There may still be hope for some competition?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gui22a @ Mar 19 2010, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82195

He is so hypocrite talking about electronics making motogp boring, but why doesn't he comes to talk something now, once he is practically winning alone by two years?
No. He repeatedly commented on electronics last season...urging a move to 1000cc and less electronics. He also said, last year, that 800cc was the biggest mistake in MotoGP for 15 years.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Mar 19 2010, 08:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The same article has already been used to start an earlier thread
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If previous thread, then repeat thread redundant.

Conclusion of boringness a negative affirmation?

if its boring its cause of the bikes not the riders.


and less you forget ( or not know sport all that well ) the DECADES Honda ruled... if Honda would have shown Rossi the respect as a rider he deserved back in 2002, 2003..they'd still have him and they'd still be on top..If Honda would have not strong armed Dorna to change to these .... 800's (thinking they'd dominate with all new bikes and horse jockey riders) we'd still have the 990s and insane "non-boring" races... so in closing.. .... honda and .... you..

with all due respect of course

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gui22a @ Mar 19 2010, 12:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82195

Rossi's recent domination in pre-season tests is one indicative that the season will be as boring as hell (again), since he never goes so fast at that time. Today he was fastest again by a good (or bad, depends on POV) margin.

If he is so quick already, imagine how races will be "fun"

I can easily preview a boring 2010 season. I hate this trio Yamaha + Burges + Rossi, it should have been banned from MotoGP.

One can already give the championship title to the "The DULLctor", ban him from MotoGP and start the 2011 season. .... Yamaha + Rossi, go away from MotoGP. He is so hypocrite talking about electronics making motogp boring, but why doesn't he comes to talk something now, once he is practically winning alone by two years? Is race boring only when some rider else win?

Don't you get tired of watch Rossi winning year by year? What's the fun with that?
Wasn't so boring for you in 07 when stoner was running away with it, was it ? If motogp is so boring to you then why watch it ??

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 19 2010, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>But there was no market in McCoy so not much incentive for the Eurocentric/Spanocentric Dorna to "help" him be there
More like he never reached his potential due to injury's. Rossi is a marketing safe bet because he has never missed a race in his long career, if you want your sponsor logo's to be seen for a season you wouldn't want them on McCoy or hoppers bike Nothing to do with Europe/ Europeans.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vibe @ Mar 19 2010, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>"Stoner put in a late burst of fast laps to lead the field with an hour and a half to go, but Rossi responded in the closing six minutes to lead the day one timesheets by 0.315sec from the 2007 world champion.
Nevertheless, Stoner set four laps in the 1min 55sec bracket, compared with only two for Rossi"

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/157829/1/...ar_so_good.html

There may still be hope for some competition?
I sure hope so.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gui22a @ Mar 19 2010, 12:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82195

Rossi's recent domination in pre-season tests is one indicative that the season will be as boring as hell (again), since he never goes so fast at that time. Today he was fastest again by a good (or bad, depends on POV) margin.

If he is so quick already, imagine how races will be "fun"

I can easily preview a boring 2010 season. I hate this trio Yamaha + Burges + Rossi, it should have been banned from MotoGP.

One can already give the championship title to the "The DULLctor", ban him from MotoGP and start the 2011 season. .... Yamaha + Rossi, go away from MotoGP. He is so hypocrite talking about electronics making motogp boring, but why doesn't he comes to talk something now, once he is practically winning alone by two years? Is race boring only when some rider else win?

Don't you get tired of watch Rossi winning year by year? What's the fun with that?
I hope that this was a fishing thread - it certainly seems to be a very ill thought out rant to me. "Boring as Hell again" - like Rossi has easily won the last four years

Were Doohan's 5 dominant years boring for you? Why is it "boring" to watch Rossi fight against Stoner, Lorenzo, Pedrosa and now Spies? Just because Rossi has been fastest in testing so far does not imply a boring season.

"Yamaha + Burgess + Rossi banned"? FFS, Burgess has been behind the majority of the WCs and not just for Rossi and especially not just for Yamaha.

He started in 1985 with Honda and Freddie Spencer who was WC that year. Since then he has also been instrumental in the WCs of Gardner (2), Doohan (5), Rossi (3 Honda, 4 Yamaha).

The only WCs since JB became involved who were not helped to the title by him were Lawson (1 Honda, 2 Yamaha), Rainey (3 Yamaha), Schwantz (1 Suzuki), Criville (1 Honda), KRJR (1 Suzuki), Hayden (1 Honda) & Stoner (1 Ducati). So since 1985 JB was involved in 15 WCs (for 2 manufacturers) and not involved in 11 (4 manufacturers).

If Yamaha were to leave motogp you'd have the Stoner circus and f'all else at the moment, given Honda's issues.

Also, why "the Dullctor"? You have to admit (assuming you like bike racing) that the 2007 Assen, 2008 Laguna and 2009 Catalunya races were some of the best in recent memory because Rossi was one of the participants. Note that I said "one of" - at the end of the day you need more than one racer to make a brilliant race unless you're into demonstration laps.

I didn't see a word where preziosi says such a ....,

he is only affraid of Rossi's form and he says normally Rossi never pushes it like this in the pre season testings.

Motogp will ALWAYS be more exiting than f1.
I didn't see ANY battling between Alonso and Vettel AT ALL, Alonso passed him when Vettel's car had a problem and after that he went on to set fastest laps one after another for his own enjoying.

if you call that a battle, then you have to be much more pleased with the fights of motogp racers, even when they follow eachother with distance of a few tenth's of a second during the whole races.

There is No way that Rossi can dominate the races this year as that happens in f1.
you have problems with Rossi being always the most winners of the gp's i think, and therefor you prefer that they dont let him race in any serie, maybe we can see some close racings, but we have seen that Lorenzo and Pedrossa won the most in 250's.

The only reason is that these guy's are the best racers in motogp and every year one of them
(which is usually Rossi) wins the most races, and i,m sure you haven't had such a problem in 2007 when Casey was the one.

So after all, even if Rossi is at his best form, he cant be that dominating for the whole season, and if the other top gun's do their best, they can make it an exiting season for themselves and fans, but if they want to win when the best is not arround, then they are not worth it to be in this serie.

every team takes care of their own interests, and what they say can never be trusted for other teams or for the whole serie.

at the moment at least Stoner and Lorenzo are at their best forms and theyr much younger than Rossi, so if they cant stop him during 18 races, then maybe they dont deserve to be in Motogp.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Mar 19 2010, 11:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If previous thread, then repeat thread redundant.

Conclusion of boringness a negative affirmation?
I was agreeing with you. However it could be argued that almost anything that keeps any discussion going this deep into the off-season is not to be entirely decried .

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Mar 19 2010, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Barry the great, you outdone yourself once again as you coat yourself in moron juice! Vr boring??? Don't worry people most Aussies unlike Barry know that the world is not flat

Gee What are you sooking at me for!!???

What have I done ............

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gui22a @ Mar 19 2010, 12:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Last year we had the same potential race winners, and Rossi wins most races, even going slow as turtle at pre-season.

We are going to a point where F1 is more fun and competitive than MotoGP.

NO WAY PAL!!!!!

The potential is there for good races,I`ll bring up PI in 09 (again),if the riders have the correct firecracker in their ... then we ain`t gonna be bored!I `ve got to laugh at the `boring` vision of the new season .There are riders new aplenty wanting to make a name for themselves so how the hell can anyone say its going to be boring with such depth of competition albeit there will be 2 or 3 sections of the race as in leading group,mid pack and tailend Charlies.You have to watch ALL of the race to appreciate it all.BORING? Definately not!!!All that with no fan boppin` either.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gui22a @ Mar 18 2010, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>We are going to a point where F1 is more fun and competitive than MotoGP.


I'm a little worried at the direction MOTOGP is going with their rules in reference to the first F1 race and the series in general. Most drivers (front) in that race admitted to their position on the track and decided to save their engine. We could also see this same thing happening in MOTOGP. Will we see riders back off and give up to conserve their engine?

Also, fuel seemed to be one of the most important aspects for the engineers to figure out. I know this is nothing new in MOTOGP but should it be this way?

That F1 race was one of the worst most boring races ever. NASCAR can put that series to shame in 10 minutes of racing. MOTOGP seems to be following lock step with F1 and this is obviously not a good thing.

I'm a little worried about the racing this season. It might be the off track drama that gets the most attention

I'de like to see Rossi defend his title in close races all season. If he wins good for him. If he doesn't then maybe he should jump on that duc and try again in 2011