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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Feb 13 2008, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I agree with this 100%.
Despite the fact that the "incident" increased Rossi's chances for the Championship I prefer to see such things unfold with both players being able to compete without hinderance, ie no mechanical failures (such as Chris Walker's engine failure in the last BSB round in 2000) and not being taken out by another rider, esp your team mate.
I think this poster said it all :
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this is the one I refer to
Despite the fact that the "incident" increased Rossi's chances for the Championship I prefer to see such things unfold with both players being able to compete without hinderance, ie no mechanical failures (such as Chris Walker's engine failure in the last BSB round in 2000) and not being taken out by another rider, esp your team mate.
I think this poster said it all :
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this is the one I refer to
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CaramaC @ Feb 18 2008, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hello everyone, first post a bit crap l know but............he don't look to popular here either >>>Mr Popular
look's like billy no mates
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 19 2008, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dani is part of the HRC system that is widely hated. Although this point i find very hard to understand since HRC is more to motogp than Ferrari is to F1, yet people have nothing but bad things to say about them despite everything they have acheived and everything they continue to do for the biking world. I think the influence of a certain man encourages this opinion.
I know you follow F1, so found this statement rather confusing. Honda does tend to be disliked to some extent, especially for the attitude they were perceived to have in 2004 when Rossi left, ie that it was the bike that was winning and they didn't need Rossi - they thought they could put any rider on it and win. To me this type of attitude is more closely paralleled by Williams in F1.
Ferrari are disliked in F1 to a much greater extent, but for different reasons. Up until the mid '90s Ferrari were the old guard and respected for that. But then came the cheating, the race-rigging and they now are generally seen as being in bed with the FIA who are only happy if Ferrari are winning and twist the rules/investigations accordingly. Hence the nickname FIArari. Interestingly, Ferrari's attitude shift seemed to coincide with the arrival of Schumacher, Brawn and Byrne.
I know you follow F1, so found this statement rather confusing. Honda does tend to be disliked to some extent, especially for the attitude they were perceived to have in 2004 when Rossi left, ie that it was the bike that was winning and they didn't need Rossi - they thought they could put any rider on it and win. To me this type of attitude is more closely paralleled by Williams in F1.
Ferrari are disliked in F1 to a much greater extent, but for different reasons. Up until the mid '90s Ferrari were the old guard and respected for that. But then came the cheating, the race-rigging and they now are generally seen as being in bed with the FIA who are only happy if Ferrari are winning and twist the rules/investigations accordingly. Hence the nickname FIArari. Interestingly, Ferrari's attitude shift seemed to coincide with the arrival of Schumacher, Brawn and Byrne.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Feb 20 2008, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This photo may explain a few of the reasons -
Who's the only one not smiling?
Who's the only one not smiling?
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Rossi cracks me up. He has the screwed up, too happy smile and waves.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Feb 19 2008, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Who's the only one not smiling?
At least he's looking at the camera. Who's the only one who isn't?
Edit : actually Scud isn't either...
At least he's looking at the camera. Who's the only one who isn't?
Edit : actually Scud isn't either...
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How big is Sylvain? He is huge.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Feb 19 2008, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This photo may explain a few of the reasons -
Hayden is holding his helmet like a boner.
Hayden is holding his helmet like a boner.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AlexdeAngelis-Fan @ Feb 20 2008, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>wow - everyone is smiling or even joking around (like rossi) and he just sitting there
maybe he is already focused on the first race in 3 weeks
Nope he has a genetic defect which makes it impossible for him to smile.
maybe he is already focused on the first race in 3 weeks
Nope he has a genetic defect which makes it impossible for him to smile.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (citadina @ Feb 20 2008, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nope he has a genetic defect which makes it impossible for him to smile.
or he is reading this board and know that it dosen´t matter to smile or not to smile, noone likes him anyway
or he is reading this board and know that it dosen´t matter to smile or not to smile, noone likes him anyway
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Feb 19 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I know you follow F1, so found this statement rather confusing. Honda does tend to be disliked to some extent, especially for the attitude they were perceived to have in 2004 when Rossi left, ie that it was the bike that was winning and they didn't need Rossi - they thought they could put any rider on it and win. To me this type of attitude is more closely paralleled by Williams in F1.
Ferrari are disliked in F1 to a much greater extent, but for different reasons. Up until the mid '90s Ferrari were the old guard and respected for that. But then came the cheating, the race-rigging and they now are generally seen as being in bed with the FIA who are only happy if Ferrari are winning and twist the rules/investigations accordingly. Hence the nickname FIArari. Interestingly, Ferrari's attitude shift seemed to coincide with the arrival of Schumacher, Brawn and Byrne.
I have never disliked Honda,i think they make an incredible product from cars,lawn mowers,boat engines,bikes,generators etc.But there is a deep seeded dislike of them in the racing world.I have a group of 10-12 riders that i ride with on a weekly basis and no one rides a Honda.I have brought up that fact before when sitting around shooting the .... and everyone says .... Honda.I ask why they feel that way and tell me its because they have allways just out spent the others to win,being it spending twice as much in research or buying riders.My reply is,why do you think your Suzuki,Kawasaki,or Yamaha is the bike its is.Its because Honda has forced the other manufacturers to up the game to compete.They know that is true but still dont like them anyway.
Ferrari are disliked in F1 to a much greater extent, but for different reasons. Up until the mid '90s Ferrari were the old guard and respected for that. But then came the cheating, the race-rigging and they now are generally seen as being in bed with the FIA who are only happy if Ferrari are winning and twist the rules/investigations accordingly. Hence the nickname FIArari. Interestingly, Ferrari's attitude shift seemed to coincide with the arrival of Schumacher, Brawn and Byrne.
I have never disliked Honda,i think they make an incredible product from cars,lawn mowers,boat engines,bikes,generators etc.But there is a deep seeded dislike of them in the racing world.I have a group of 10-12 riders that i ride with on a weekly basis and no one rides a Honda.I have brought up that fact before when sitting around shooting the .... and everyone says .... Honda.I ask why they feel that way and tell me its because they have allways just out spent the others to win,being it spending twice as much in research or buying riders.My reply is,why do you think your Suzuki,Kawasaki,or Yamaha is the bike its is.Its because Honda has forced the other manufacturers to up the game to compete.They know that is true but still dont like them anyway.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Feb 20 2008, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have never disliked Honda,i think they make an incredible product from cars,lawn mowers,boat engines,bikes,generators etc.But there is a deep seeded dislike of them in the racing world.I have a group of 10-12 riders that i ride with on a weekly basis and no one rides a Honda.I have brought up that fact before when sitting around shooting the .... and everyone says .... Honda.I ask why they feel that way and tell me its because they have allways just out spent the others to win,being it spending twice as much in research or buying riders.My reply is,why do you think your Suzuki,Kawasaki,or Yamaha is the bike its is.Its because Honda has forced the other manufacturers to up the game to compete.They know that is true but still dont like them anyway.
i have a Honda lawn mower too
i have a Honda lawn mower too
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Feb 19 2008, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I know you follow F1, so found this statement rather confusing. Honda does tend to be disliked to some extent, especially for the attitude they were perceived to have in 2004 when Rossi left, ie that it was the bike that was winning and they didn't need Rossi - they thought they could put any rider on it and win. To me this type of attitude is more closely paralleled by Williams in F1.
Ferrari are disliked in F1 to a much greater extent, but for different reasons. Up until the mid '90s Ferrari were the old guard and respected for that. But then came the cheating, the race-rigging and they now are generally seen as being in bed with the FIA who are only happy if Ferrari are winning and twist the rules/investigations accordingly. Hence the nickname FIArari. Interestingly, Ferrari's attitude shift seemed to coincide with the arrival of Schumacher, Brawn and Byrne.
I am aware of the rep that Ferrari have at the moment, and i have my issues with that to some extent, but its nothing like the general sour feeling towards Honda from the average fan, despite having no record of any of this kind of behaviour.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Feb 20 2008, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have never disliked Honda,i think they make an incredible product from cars,lawn mowers,boat engines,bikes,generators etc.But there is a deep seeded dislike of them in the racing world.I have a group of 10-12 riders that i ride with on a weekly basis and no one rides a Honda.I have brought up that fact before when sitting around shooting the .... and everyone says .... Honda.I ask why they feel that way and tell me its because they have allways just out spent the others to win,being it spending twice as much in research or buying riders.My reply is,why do you think your Suzuki,Kawasaki,or Yamaha is the bike its is.Its because Honda has forced the other manufacturers to up the game to compete.They know that is true but still dont like them anyway.
This is exactly what i'm talking about, it seems quite fasionable to dislike Honda in the biking world, probably because they are so significantly more successful than the competition.
Ferrari are disliked in F1 to a much greater extent, but for different reasons. Up until the mid '90s Ferrari were the old guard and respected for that. But then came the cheating, the race-rigging and they now are generally seen as being in bed with the FIA who are only happy if Ferrari are winning and twist the rules/investigations accordingly. Hence the nickname FIArari. Interestingly, Ferrari's attitude shift seemed to coincide with the arrival of Schumacher, Brawn and Byrne.
I am aware of the rep that Ferrari have at the moment, and i have my issues with that to some extent, but its nothing like the general sour feeling towards Honda from the average fan, despite having no record of any of this kind of behaviour.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Feb 20 2008, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have never disliked Honda,i think they make an incredible product from cars,lawn mowers,boat engines,bikes,generators etc.But there is a deep seeded dislike of them in the racing world.I have a group of 10-12 riders that i ride with on a weekly basis and no one rides a Honda.I have brought up that fact before when sitting around shooting the .... and everyone says .... Honda.I ask why they feel that way and tell me its because they have allways just out spent the others to win,being it spending twice as much in research or buying riders.My reply is,why do you think your Suzuki,Kawasaki,or Yamaha is the bike its is.Its because Honda has forced the other manufacturers to up the game to compete.They know that is true but still dont like them anyway.
This is exactly what i'm talking about, it seems quite fasionable to dislike Honda in the biking world, probably because they are so significantly more successful than the competition.
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some of the fashionable to hate honda stems way back to the 1% ers in the 60s .
after the hells angles "riot" at holester i think it was called , honda produced there slogan " only nice people ride a honda" so if you wanted a bit of an outlaw image to stayed well clear of honda.
after the hells angles "riot" at holester i think it was called , honda produced there slogan " only nice people ride a honda" so if you wanted a bit of an outlaw image to stayed well clear of honda.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 19 2008, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think there are many reasons for Dani to be unpopular;
<ul>[/list] These days fans are spoiled by riders who are desperate to be famous and have the most fans, and who are bred by genious PR machines. A rider like Dani shows little affection to the people intruding in his life, and makes no effort to sugar-coat any of his opinions for the sake of us, this definitely works against him in the most part.
<ul>[/list]Secondly, these boards are used mainly be English, Australian and American fans, all places with less of a GP culture than mainland Europe and so there is little admiration for his pre-motogp career, despite it being one of the most impressive to date.
<ul>[/list]Dani is part of the HRC system that is widely hated. Although this point i find very hard to understand since HRC is more to motogp than Ferrari is to F1, yet people have nothing but bad things to say about them despite everything they have acheived and everything they continue to do for the biking world. I think the influence of a certain man encourages this opinion.
<ul>[/list]Estoril! Even though it was a long time ago, and a very rare mistake from one of the most controlled riders on the circuit, people wont get over it, ever.
<ul>[/list]He is pretty damn good. People like to hate success. Some of the best riders in history have been very easy to hate, believe it or not, they aren't all clowns, actors and superstars. They are in fact competative, aggressive and single minded men.
Put all of those factors into a rider who threatens your personal favorite and you have an easy public enemy. I find most of these traits admirable in the current motogp world where being the PR dream boy can get you a long way, Dani is just a rider and its working well for him so far.
and the award for the most sensible and accurate post goes too....
spot on Tom
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Haga @ Feb 19 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I must admit that i'm a massive Pedrosa fan, always have been, always will be. I love it that he is so disliked aswell as I normally back the villain in MotoGP, as I did with Gibernau and Biaggi.
and me! the more people dislike him, the more i love to like him
<ul>[/list] These days fans are spoiled by riders who are desperate to be famous and have the most fans, and who are bred by genious PR machines. A rider like Dani shows little affection to the people intruding in his life, and makes no effort to sugar-coat any of his opinions for the sake of us, this definitely works against him in the most part.
<ul>[/list]Secondly, these boards are used mainly be English, Australian and American fans, all places with less of a GP culture than mainland Europe and so there is little admiration for his pre-motogp career, despite it being one of the most impressive to date.
<ul>[/list]Dani is part of the HRC system that is widely hated. Although this point i find very hard to understand since HRC is more to motogp than Ferrari is to F1, yet people have nothing but bad things to say about them despite everything they have acheived and everything they continue to do for the biking world. I think the influence of a certain man encourages this opinion.
<ul>[/list]Estoril! Even though it was a long time ago, and a very rare mistake from one of the most controlled riders on the circuit, people wont get over it, ever.
<ul>[/list]He is pretty damn good. People like to hate success. Some of the best riders in history have been very easy to hate, believe it or not, they aren't all clowns, actors and superstars. They are in fact competative, aggressive and single minded men.
Put all of those factors into a rider who threatens your personal favorite and you have an easy public enemy. I find most of these traits admirable in the current motogp world where being the PR dream boy can get you a long way, Dani is just a rider and its working well for him so far.
and the award for the most sensible and accurate post goes too....
spot on Tom
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Haga @ Feb 19 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I must admit that i'm a massive Pedrosa fan, always have been, always will be. I love it that he is so disliked aswell as I normally back the villain in MotoGP, as I did with Gibernau and Biaggi.
and me! the more people dislike him, the more i love to like him
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stop_killing_dead_things @ Feb 19 2008, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i have seen a couple in the past with titles of that effect...
Really? I haven't always been reading the forum that closely during the offseason. Did some posters really laugh at Pedrosa's injury? Could you name names?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stop_killing_dead_things @ Feb 19 2008, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i dont have a forceful personality but im quite happy to fight on his behalf, when i feel the need to try (emphasis on try mind) and put people in their place
You've been doing fine in this thread. Your reponse to Jumkie's bilious rant actually made him wipe the spittle off of his face.
But ultimately, weight of numbers will win out. Unless you jump on every anti-Pedrosa comment, the cheap shots will keep on coming until such time as an easier target comes along (Lorenzo?)...
Really? I haven't always been reading the forum that closely during the offseason. Did some posters really laugh at Pedrosa's injury? Could you name names?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stop_killing_dead_things @ Feb 19 2008, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i dont have a forceful personality but im quite happy to fight on his behalf, when i feel the need to try (emphasis on try mind) and put people in their place
You've been doing fine in this thread. Your reponse to Jumkie's bilious rant actually made him wipe the spittle off of his face.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 21 2008, 07:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>some of the fashionable to hate honda stems way back to the 1% ers in the 60s .
after the hells angles "riot" at holester i think it was called , honda produced there slogan " only nice people ride a honda" so if you wanted a bit of an outlaw image to stayed well clear of honda.
I think it went like this [You meet the nicest people on a Honda} Basically the same message,but the perception of the slogan is totally differnt.
after the hells angles "riot" at holester i think it was called , honda produced there slogan " only nice people ride a honda" so if you wanted a bit of an outlaw image to stayed well clear of honda.
I think it went like this [You meet the nicest people on a Honda} Basically the same message,but the perception of the slogan is totally differnt.
