why is Pedrosa so unpopular on this board

[JohnnyKnockdown]

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Every rider has fans. And I suppose you have your reasons. Pedrosa is on a short list of riders I don’t like (Jorge Lorentho and Alex Creville being another); you may find it interesting that I like Max Biaggi and Sete Gibernau (both guys villains to many fans and particularly to Rossi fans).
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Jumkie I'm surprised that Lorenzo is on your " do not like list " I'm curious to why?
I am slightly amused at his antics and I can see how some might attribute it to arrogance but he is a dominant rider in his class much like Rossi. I think he's earned the right to do those thing.
I was a little put off with him at first but after doing those antics he always appears professional and classy in his press conferences. I originally thought he would come across as a pretentious prig but he seems to leave his percieved arrogance on the track.
I like how he wanted to better himself in the 2006 offseason and went out to visit Kenny Roberts at his ranch for a week to work on sliding the bike.
I'm being somewhat ambigous as to how much I like him now because I want him to prove himself an ....... before I call him one. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt for now at least.
I think he is good for the sport because he has the ability to polarize fans. You might love or hate him but that is what brings viewership.
His biggest positive is he could knock Pedro off his pedestal and become Spains next favorite child.
I'm all for that. I might eat these words someday but I would love to see him have success just to spite
Pedro.

 

[J4rn0]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AlexdeAngelis-Fan @ Feb 10 2008, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i can´t say that i´m a huge Fan of him, but i don´t dislike him
so whats the deal with all the negativ stuff on this board about him?
can someone explain it to mee?

It is due a little to his Napoleon complex, I think, but especially to the things he says about Hayden. Most MotoGP fans like Nicky, so they do not appreciate the kind of attitude Pedro has towards him...

 

[stop_killing_dead_things]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Feb 13 2008, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well you make a well thought out response, and I appreciate that. Obviously, I disagree on the character issue and the Portugal incident, but you are right about it being pointless to attack him on his size. I admit, I do it out of pure contempt for his character as, well as just for fun. So as far as anything I say about his size, take it as a joke. It’s not fair and he has no control over that; but he does have control about his mannerisms and body language, and surely what he says in the public arena.

Every rider has fans. And I suppose you have your reasons. Pedrosa is on a short list of riders I don’t like (Jorge Lorentho and Alex Creville being another); you may find it interesting that I like Max Biaggi and Sete Gibernau (both guys villains to many fans and particularly to Rossi fans).

well that much was obvious... i get why people dislike him, i really do and yes, i can actually take some of the comments about his size as a joke. i even join in on some of them if i know they arent meant maliciously, but most of them are, and after the 65843658436786358497893th joke (all with the same punchline might i add) it starts to get very tiring and i stop laughing.

its like on this forum alone, there are are several threads about Dani and they have all turned into insult after insult, and then even the ones totally unrelated get turned around and they become yet another slanging match! its then i lose my sense of humour completely.

anyway, you like Biaggi?

you describe Dani as "ungrateful, unappreciative, arrogant, and jealous" yet i would say that description fits Max much more accurately. you have shocked me there. i get why you dont like Lorenzo, probably for the same reasons i dont but he's growing on me for some strange reason and my list of disliked riders now only contains two names, Hopkins and Edwards. i find it strange how people can take such different views about the same person...

 

[Hayden Fan]

http://www.thepcmanwebsite.com/media/gopher/gopher.shtml

Could we maybe get a Flash game with Dani's head instead of the mole's?

 

[Rising Sun]

A little late to the party, but what the hell...

I don't think people on this forum 'hate' Pedrosa--after all, there were no threads full of gleeful 'Pedrosa-haters' saying, "Sucked in, Loser!" when he injured his hand in testing at Sepang. Obviously the dislike runs fairly deep, and intensely so for American Hayden fans, in particular...

But he's a hard guy to like, or even feel neutral towards. He doesn't come across as a gracious loser, and isn't much of a gracious winner, either. Unlike Rossi, with his humour and charisma, or Lorenzo, with his, uh, flamboyance, or even Hayden, with his straight-talkin' aw-shucks honesty, Pedrosa is not an accomplished media performer. He's clearly uncomfortable talking to the media most of the time. Shyness, and the fact that English isn't his first language are mitigating factors--but only to an extent-- English isn't the first language of a lot of the journalists, either, and he's been in the GP Paddock now for 7 years or more--so it's not like he hasn't had the chance to change and/or get better at it.

His comments about Hayden in the off-season are a case in point. Why make those comments? Way to use the media--not! All Hayden had to do in response was take the high road. Whatever point he was trying to make (if there was a purpose to it all) got lost in a haze of mean-spirited bitterness.

[Perhaps he's like Biaggi, in that competition brings out the worst of his character. I've read that Max, away from the track is a warm and generous person, and quite fun to be around. Biaggi and Doohan used to party it up a bit in Monaco at one time.]

His popularity in Spain brings its own pressures, and is something that only Rossi, out of all the other riders on the gird can relate to (and to a much higher degree, I'd imagine). He also has a manager who is even harder to like. Although, it must be said that Puig can spot talent: #24 T. Elias, #25 (?) Joan Olive?, #26 Dani Pedrosa, and #27 Casey Stoner is quite a team to assemble! He doesn't have anywhere near the power and influence with HRC and Dorna that the tin-foil hat would have you believe, either. However, those are the only good things about Puig that come to mind right now!

Finally, Pedrosa's popularity--or lack of it--on this forum is proportional to the number of his fans who post. Sure there are a few (in this very thread, too!), but there's no one with a forceful personality who will take up the fight on his behalf (like a roger-m or a Jumkie or a BarryMachine). So that makes Pedrosa an easy target, a cheap shot--just like Gibernau and Biaggi before him (back in the day, it might have been Kocinski). Everyone feels 'safe' in sinking the boot in, because there's no xx Curve xx to say ".... you" nor a mylexicon to wax lyrical nor a CSCVAW posting drug-addled rants in response.

Hmm... I wonder what a combative Pedrosa fanboy would sound like?

 

[BarryMachine]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rising Sun @ Feb 16 2008, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>(like a roger-m or a Jumkie or a BarryMachine).

Hey!! I resemble that remark!!

and besides I have already pointed out in my signature thingy


<<<<<<< there

that I might be Pedrosa's fanboy next year .... so I'm getting ready for the battering

 

[wafu46]

For me I think he is boring and represents everything I do not want in the sport. However my biggest dislike is the way he disses Nikki Hayden. Like him or not nikki has kept his mouth shut about Honda and their treatment of him and that takes character Something Dani has none of

 

[basspete]

I dunno why he's so unpopular apart fae the facts that he's a gobby little .... on a fast bike who runs a number 2 to signify the amount of times he has successfully overtaken somebody on a race track. He slags off his far superior team mate who has a GP title and has also won races without getting the holeshot.

He's like Mika Hakkinen on a bike.

But thats just my opinion, I dunno why everyone else hates him.

Hopefully he will qualify next to Scud a few times, that will teach him a bit about overtaking.

Pete

 

[CaramaC]

Hello everyone, first post a bit crap l know but............he don't look to popular here either >>>Mr Popular

 

[crazyl8dy]

Hey CaramaC can't seem to get on - get a the website delcined to show this webpage. Bizarre and weirdly polite!

 

[CaramaC]

oh sorry about that. Try this one http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.a...ventId=79377189 and look for thumbnail No 79812337

 

[Hayden Fan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CaramaC @ Feb 18 2008, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>oh sorry about that. Try this one http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.a...ventId=79377189 and look for thumbnail No 79812337




Everyone is lauging, yet there is Dani bot.

 

[chopperman]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Feb 18 2008, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I dunno why he's so unpopular apart fae the facts that he's a gobby little .... on a fast bike who runs a number 2 to signify the amount of times he has successfully overtaken somebody on a race track. He slags off his far superior team mate who has a GP title and has also won races without getting the holeshot.

He's like Mika Hakkinen on a bike.

But thats just my opinion, I dunno why everyone else hates him.

Hopefully he will qualify next to Scud a few times, that will teach him a bit about overtaking.

Pete

 

[phleg]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CaramaC @ Feb 18 2008, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hello everyone, first post a bit crap l know but............he don't look to popular here either >>>Mr Popular

Who/what do you think they're laughing at?

I recall Rossi was sat where they're looking.

CONSPIRACIES AHOY!

 

[stop_killing_dead_things]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rising Sun @ Feb 16 2008, 04:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>A little late to the party, but what the hell...

I don't think people on this forum 'hate' Pedrosa--after all, there were no threads full of gleeful 'Pedrosa-haters' saying, "Sucked in, Loser!" when he injured his hand in testing at Sepang. Obviously the dislike runs fairly deep, and intensely so for American Hayden fans, in particular...

i have seen a couple in the past with titles of that effect...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Finally, Pedrosa's popularity--or lack of it--on this forum is proportional to the number of his fans who post. Sure there are a few (in this very thread, too!), but there's no one with a forceful personality who will take up the fight on his behalf (like a roger-m or a Jumkie or a BarryMachine). So that makes Pedrosa an easy target, a cheap shot--just like Gibernau and Biaggi before him (back in the day, it might have been Kocinski). Everyone feels 'safe' in sinking the boot in, because there's no xx Curve xx to say ".... you" nor a mylexicon to wax lyrical nor a CSCVAW posting drug-addled rants in response.

i dont have a forceful personality but im quite happy to fight on his behalf, when i feel the need to try (emphasis on try mind) and put people in their place

 

[Tom]

I think there are many reasons for Dani to be unpopular;

<ul>[/list] These days fans are spoiled by riders who are desperate to be famous and have the most fans, and who are bred by genious PR machines. A rider like Dani shows little affection to the people intruding in his life, and makes no effort to sugar-coat any of his opinions for the sake of us, this definitely works against him in the most part.

<ul>[/list]Secondly, these boards are used mainly be English, Australian and American fans, all places with less of a GP culture than mainland Europe and so there is little admiration for his pre-motogp career, despite it being one of the most impressive to date.

<ul>[/list]Dani is part of the HRC system that is widely hated. Although this point i find very hard to understand since HRC is more to motogp than Ferrari is to F1, yet people have nothing but bad things to say about them despite everything they have acheived and everything they continue to do for the biking world. I think the influence of a certain man encourages this opinion.

<ul>[/list]Estoril! Even though it was a long time ago, and a very rare mistake from one of the most controlled riders on the circuit, people wont get over it, ever.

<ul>[/list]He is pretty damn good. People like to hate success. Some of the best riders in history have been very easy to hate, believe it or not, they aren't all clowns, actors and superstars. They are in fact competative, aggressive and single minded men.

Put all of those factors into a rider who threatens your personal favorite and you have an easy public enemy. I find most of these traits admirable in the current motogp world where being the PR dream boy can get you a long way, Dani is just a rider and its working well for him so far.

 

[citadina]

Also a little late to the party but here goes.
It's no secret that I don't like the guy....really don't like the guy. For me it all started here in Estoril when he rode Hayden off the track. No matter how much he says he's sorry after you just don't do that kind of stuff team mate or not. Like most people I just don't like his attitude, he always seems to make you feel like he is doing you a favour talking to the press or even looking at the camera. He seems to forget that we all give him his job, and bad mouthing other riders doesn't help.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

 

[xx CURVE xx]

Honestly it's NOT only on this forum...take a look at ANY forum that discusess Moto GP...you will find dislike for the little fella

 

[Haga2]

I must admit that i'm a massive Pedrosa fan, always have been, always will be. I love it that he is so disliked aswell as I normally back the villain in MotoGP, as I did with Gibernau and Biaggi.

He's probably the most talented rider in the paddock, and I believe he will finally prove that this season. 2006 was his rookie year so no one could have expected him to challenge for the title, and considering people still hate him for the Estoril incident despite Hayden still winning the title, does that mean that people still hate Christian Kellner for doing a very similar thing to Jorge Teuchert at Oeschasleben in 2000 WSS?

And last year was probably Honda's worst season for two and a half decades, so I think he did amazingly to gain 2nd in the championship. Plus the fact that last year he won by the biggest dry race margin for nearly ten years on that track that normally produces incredibly close racing.

I predict Dani to be in contention for the title up until Valencia and I think most of you do too, but because of your disliking of him you fail to consider him a major, major threat to Stoner and Rossi.

 

[xx CURVE xx]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>He's probably the most talented rider in the paddock
Talented without a doubt... "MOST", certainly not