What if Rossi leaves GP?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Jul 1 2008, 08:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Read the posts properly you .....
Pete

I would love to see Rossi get another MotoGP title and then go and race in WSBK. It would be interesting to see how he would fare on production machinery when you look at the best superbike riders not adapting to MotoGP, so how would the best MotoGP rider adapt to superbikes.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Jun 30 2008, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i agree about the nature of development, BUT, there has to be a draw factor to get people to watch and spend their money. The perfect racebike anyone? how developed must the bikes be before no-one will watch the series anymore? victims of their own "success" ( and victims of DORNA) IMO.



I agree the human side needs to be balanced with the mechanical side of the racing, with people generally feeling different about it in general. I'm interested in the mechanical side probably more than the average fan, as some feel that the significant parts should be completely spec. I think the human - mechanical side is pretty well balanced right now, but i think advancement will naturally make the human side gradually smaller, and this balance will need to be addressed a few years down the line.

As was mentioned before, Rossi made Edwards look slow when they did Suzuka in 2002 (or was it 2001?) at a time when Edwards was the fastest man to ride a Superbike. So as exciting as it sounds to have Rossi in a spec. series with some great names, I really don't think it would be as great as it sounds.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Jul 1 2008, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>haha funny you dont mention any one of rossis main cometitors, that is stoner, pedro and horhey. hahaha thats comedy, and why didnt you mention anyone of them

you all complain the 800s are ...., there slow etc etc, but the 800s are now faster than the 990s ever were, even if they were slower, you are now saying 800 are ...., but lets go move to an production bikes which are even slower stil. hahahahah.

your demented thinking is pure comedy

you guys remind me of some stupid 10 year old in the play grounds. oh lets go over there and play where and dont let so and so come hahahhaaha
Why would a 22 year-old leave GPs? Rossi has nothing left to prove. He's done more by the age of 29 than Stoner and Pedrosa will achieve in their combined careers. And I'm not even a big Rossi fan, I like Rossi and Stoner equally. Switching to SBK would just be for kicks, retirement. Because I highly doubt Rossi can quit racing cold turkey and the WSB paddock offers a very laxed environment where Rossi can do what he likes.

Whereas Stoner and Pedrosa still need to lament themselves as GP greats and it will take the entirety of their careers to do so. Rossi is in a rare situation where his status in GP folklore is already lamented and still has prime racing left in him.

And yes, the 800s are making faster lap times but that does not make them faster. Straight line, if you think an 800 can keep up with a 990 you are sorely mistaken. Higher corner speeds, improved electronics and constantly improving tires will likely make up a lot, if not more, of the difference in lap times between the 800s and 990s.

And again, not to speak for everyone, but this is not a case of Rossi taking his bat and ball with him because he doesn't want to play with Stoner and Pedrosa anymore because he can't win. This is Rossi leaving his bat and ball because he's won the World Series more times than he has fingers and is ready for something else.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jul 1 2008, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This is Rossi leaving his bat and ball because he's won the World Series more times than he has fingers and is ready for something else.

I think it'll be cars anyway. If he wants to take a step down why not try something totally new, far safer, well paid and where less people know him.

I'm telling you ...... WRC has him in their sights for 2010 or 2011 ....... their chief has already stated they are going to recruit big names to lift the profile of rally.

If it is Valentino ..... they get .....

a guy who is interested

and an instant boost of WRC fanbase as all Valentinos fans defect straight over to WRC.



Unfortunately then in WRC in 2011 they will also get:

The Pirelli's are crap

Toyota's's electronics steer the car

The pebbles in New Zealand are hand shaped by WRC to slow Rossi down

The sun was in his eyes

Michelin are getting him back

Shell put sugar in his fuel

The XXX rally car is designed for Stoner ...... even though he will still be in motogp

Rossi is used to a full sized car!

In car video with soundbites such as "Uccio Uccio de map she's upsidedown!!"

In some rallies some spectator spots will become lined with Rossi fans and become known as "the Yellow Prick Road"

Yamaha are letting Vale down by not designing Vale's Subaru as fast as Stoners Ducati.

Stoner has snuck his electronics into XX's car!!

Hayden didn't really win that Rally that he won ....... even though he will still be on bikes.

Rog. has allways been a rally fan! .....

It was raining heavier in Rossi's run

It was snowing more in Rossi's run

It was drier in Rossi's run!

It was more perfect weather in Rossi's run ... and he is a "REAL" driver so he is better at abnormal weather conditions!

Did you see Rossi's crash! .... now that's how real men crash!!

Rossi would corner better too, but because he has the TC set in such a way as to make him the best that ever their was, he is more of a racer !!

Rossi prefers to race than just win outright!!

Did you see how Rossi overtook everyone ( even on the single vehicle timed sections this will become the reality for the Rossifans )

Driver X is from a dirt background and Rossi is used to rallies around GP circuits!

Did you see the way Driver X's wife looked at Rossi!! ...... she wants him so bad!!

That car is designed for Pedrosa!

That road is covered with stones! ....... and Stoner will be blamed.

Rossi is used to a 12 litre! 2 litres is for .......!

All the road signs are in English! and Uccio can't read them!

All the maps are in English and Uccio can't read them!

All the instruments are in english and Uccio can't read them!

Uccio can't read the maps.

Rossi can't find the "Uccio voice" on his Satnav.

Rossi could have won that if he had a Fiat 500!

Whilst at motogp in Donnington a photo of Adrianna will be taken .... even though in the photo she is facing north west, someone will think that she is facing generally toward where they believe a projected line is passing through Corsica .... via vladivostoc ... thence Uraguay, where Rossi will be at a rally .......... and we will get more "did you see the way she looks at him? .... she wants him so bad!!"

Pinky will say Rossi should quit rally and give Melandri the seat!

Rog. and company will claim Dorna forced Rossi to leave motogp.

Rog. will still be on here "upping Rossi" even though he has long gone to rally .....

2 years after he has left, Rog. will still claim Rossi as the "real" winner of the 2013 motogp WC.


Rossi will eventually win his first section of a rally ........ then all fanboy hell will break loose!!

^^^^
Quality your best post yet

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jul 1 2008, 09:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why would a 22 year-old leave GPs? Rossi has nothing left to prove. He's done more by the age of 29 than Stoner and Pedrosa will achieve in their combined careers. And I'm not even a big Rossi fan, I like Rossi and Stoner equally. Switching to SBK would just be for kicks, retirement. Because I highly doubt Rossi can quit racing cold turkey and the WSB paddock offers a very laxed environment where Rossi can do what he likes.

Whereas Stoner and Pedrosa still need to lament themselves as GP greats and it will take the entirety of their careers to do so. Rossi is in a rare situation where his status in GP folklore is already lamented and still has prime racing left in him.

And yes, the 800s are making faster lap times but that does not make them faster. Straight line, if you think an 800 can keep up with a 990 you are sorely mistaken. Higher corner speeds, improved electronics and constantly improving tires will likely make up a lot, if not more, of the difference in lap times between the 800s and 990s.

And again, not to speak for everyone, but this is not a case of Rossi taking his bat and ball with him because he doesn't want to play with Stoner and Pedrosa anymore because he can't win. This is Rossi leaving his bat and ball because he's won the World Series more times than he has fingers and is ready for something else.

This just about sums it up.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Jul 1 2008, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Read the posts properly you .....

Pete
Another Hongkong's side effects ...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jul 1 2008, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm telling you ...... WRC has him in their sights for 2010 or 2011 ....... their chief has already stated they are going to recruit big names to lift the profile of rally.

If it is Valentino ..... they get .....

a guy who is interested

and an instant boost of WRC fanbase as all Valentinos fans defect straight over to WRC.



Unfortunately then in WRC in 2011 they will also get:

The Pirelli's are crap

Toyota's's electronics steer the car

The pebbles in New Zealand are hand shaped by WRC to slow Rossi down

The sun was in his eyes

Michelin are getting him back

Shell put sugar in his fuel

The XXX rally car is designed for Stoner ...... even though he will still be in motogp

Rossi is used to a full sized car!

In car video with soundbites such as "Uccio Uccio de map she's upsidedown!!"

In some rallies some spectator spots will become lined with Rossi fans and become known as "the Yellow Prick Road"

Yamaha are letting Vale down by not designing Vale's Subaru as fast as Stoners Ducati.

Stoner has snuck his electronics into XX's car!!

Hayden didn't really win that Rally that he won ....... even though he will still be on bikes.

Rog. has allways been a rally fan! .....

It was raining heavier in Rossi's run

It was snowing more in Rossi's run

It was drier in Rossi's run!

It was more perfect weather in Rossi's run ... and he is a "REAL" driver so he is better at abnormal weather conditions!

Did you see Rossi's crash! .... now that's how real men crash!!

Rossi would corner better too, but because he has the TC set in such a way as to make him the best that ever their was, he is more of a racer !!

Rossi prefers to race than just win outright!!

Did you see how Rossi overtook everyone ( even on the single vehicle timed sections this will become the reality for the Rossifans )

Driver X is from a dirt background and Rossi is used to rallies around GP circuits!

Did you see the way Driver X's wife looked at Rossi!! ...... she wants him so bad!!

That car is designed for Pedrosa!

That road is covered with stones! ....... and Stoner will be blamed.

Rossi is used to a 12 litre! 2 litres is for .......!

All the road signs are in English! and Uccio can't read them!

All the maps are in English and Uccio can't read them!

All the instruments are in english and Uccio can't read them!

Uccio can't read the maps.

Rossi can't find the "Uccio voice" on his Satnav.

Rossi could have won that if he had a Fiat 500!

Whilst at motogp in Donnington a photo of Adrianna will be taken .... even though in the photo she is facing north west, someone will think that she is facing generally toward where they believe a projected line is passing through Corsica .... via vladivostoc ... thence Uraguay, where Rossi will be at a rally .......... and we will get more "did you see the way she looks at him? .... she wants him so bad!!"

Pinky will say Rossi should quit rally and give Melandri the seat!

Rog. and company will claim Dorna forced Rossi to leave motogp.

Rog. will still be on here "upping Rossi" even though he has long gone to rally .....

2 years after he has left, Rog. will still claim Rossi as the "real" winner of the 2013 motogp WC.


Rossi will eventually win his first section of a rally ........ then all fanboy hell will break loose!!


And when they announce he's going you will say that (insert rally pundit here) is a total Rossi bopper who doesnt know his arse from his elbow. Then you will quote from an interview Mat Oxley did with Graziano 20 years ago to prove how clever you are and make a ... of yourself again.

The natural order is maintained.

Pete

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jul 1 2008, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As was mentioned before, Rossi made Edwards look slow when they did Suzuka in 2002 (or was it 2001?) at a time when Edwards was the fastest man to ride a Superbike. So as exciting as it sounds to have Rossi in a spec. series with some great names, I really don't think it would be as great as it sounds.


Why would a 22 year-old leave GPs? Rossi has nothing left to prove. He's done more by the age of 29 than Stoner and Pedrosa will achieve in their combined careers. And I'm not even a big Rossi fan, I like Rossi and Stoner equally. Switching to SBK would just be for kicks, retirement. Because I highly doubt Rossi can quit racing cold turkey and the WSB paddock offers a very laxed environment where Rossi can do what he likes.

Whereas Stoner and Pedrosa still need to lament themselves as GP greats and it will take the entirety of their careers to do so. Rossi is in a rare situation where his status in GP folklore is already lamented and still has prime racing left in him.

And yes, the 800s are making faster lap times but that does not make them faster. Straight line, if you think an 800 can keep up with a 990 you are sorely mistaken. Higher corner speeds, improved electronics and constantly improving tires will likely make up a lot, if not more, of the difference in lap times between the 800s and 990s.

And again, not to speak for everyone, but this is not a case of Rossi taking his bat and ball with him because he doesn't want to play with Stoner and Pedrosa anymore because he can't win. This is Rossi leaving his bat and ball because he's won the World Series more times than he has fingers and is ready for something else.

no johnny, this is a good post .

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Noodlerizer @ Jul 1 2008, 06:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This maybe the best post this forum has ever seen.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jul 1 2008, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As was mentioned before, Rossi made Edwards look slow when they did Suzuka in 2002 (or was it 2001?) at a time when Edwards was the fastest man to ride a Superbike. So as exciting as it sounds to have Rossi in a spec. series with some great names, I really don't think it would be as great as it sounds.


Why would a 22 year-old leave GPs? Rossi has nothing left to prove. He's done more by the age of 29 than Stoner and Pedrosa will achieve in their combined careers. And I'm not even a big Rossi fan, I like Rossi and Stoner equally. Switching to SBK would just be for kicks, retirement. Because I highly doubt Rossi can quit racing cold turkey and the WSB paddock offers a very laxed environment where Rossi can do what he likes.

Whereas Stoner and Pedrosa still need to lament themselves as GP greats and it will take the entirety of their careers to do so. Rossi is in a rare situation where his status in GP folklore is already lamented and still has prime racing left in him.

And yes, the 800s are making faster lap times but that does not make them faster. Straight line, if you think an 800 can keep up with a 990 you are sorely mistaken. Higher corner speeds, improved electronics and constantly improving tires will likely make up a lot, if not more, of the difference in lap times between the 800s and 990s.

And again, not to speak for everyone, but this is not a case of Rossi taking his bat and ball with him because he doesn't want to play with Stoner and Pedrosa anymore because he can't win. This is Rossi leaving his bat and ball because he's won the World Series more times than he has fingers and is ready for something else.

wow dude now that was worth reading, good non biased post.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mjpartyboy @ Jul 1 2008, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I would love to see Rossi get another MotoGP title and then go and race in WSBK. It would be interesting to see how he would fare on production machinery when you look at the best superbike riders not adapting to MotoGP, so how would the best MotoGP rider adapt to superbikes.
He would do well I'm sure!

I'm not thinking about Rossi and superbikes (yet). If he'll ever switch to that, then I'm positive he'll do a great job. The guy is just extremely talented!! First he needs to get the title back in MotoGP. The rest doesn't matter, not to me anyways! And I'm sure Rossi feels the same.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jul 1 2008, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In car video with soundbites such as "Uccio Uccio de map she's upsidedown!!"
Laughing out loud in the office, always awkward.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 1 2008, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This just about sums it up.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jul 1 2008, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>no johnny, this is a good post .
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jul 1 2008, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>wow dude now that was worth reading, good non biased post.
Thanks guys.

Rossi will never go to WSBK.. if you win Motogp it can't get any higher than that.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jul 1 2008, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As was mentioned before, Rossi made Edwards look slow when they did Suzuka in 2002 (or was it 2001?) at a time when Edwards was the fastest man to ride a Superbike. So as exciting as it sounds to have Rossi in a spec. series with some great names, I really don't think it would be as great as it sounds.


Why would a 22 year-old leave GPs? Rossi has nothing left to prove. He's done more by the age of 29 than Stoner and Pedrosa will achieve in their combined careers. And I'm not even a big Rossi fan, I like Rossi and Stoner equally. Switching to SBK would just be for kicks, retirement. Because I highly doubt Rossi can quit racing cold turkey and the WSB paddock offers a very laxed environment where Rossi can do what he likes.

Whereas Stoner and Pedrosa still need to lament themselves as GP greats and it will take the entirety of their careers to do so. Rossi is in a rare situation where his status in GP folklore is already lamented and still has prime racing left in him.

And yes, the 800s are making faster lap times but that does not make them faster. Straight line, if you think an 800 can keep up with a 990 you are sorely mistaken. Higher corner speeds, improved electronics and constantly improving tires will likely make up a lot, if not more, of the difference in lap times between the 800s and 990s.

And again, not to speak for everyone, but this is not a case of Rossi taking his bat and ball with him because he doesn't want to play with Stoner and Pedrosa anymore because he can't win. This is Rossi leaving his bat and ball because he's won the World Series more times than he has fingers and is ready for something else.

Excellent Austin. Must be the best readable post in this thread.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 1 2008, 06:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah I agree on that one man.....still good, but was so much cooler when we knew they were vicious death machines with waaaay too much power to use...lol
We all agree, it was much more fun to watch 2 stroke 500's. The hardest bikes to master, the most fun bikes to ride (according to most racers), and the most dangerous and brutal bikes, (if you made a mistake), of the modern era. But therein lies the problem as well. The bikes were very dangerous and caused a fair amount of major injuries to most of the top riders of the era. Not too mention the outdated technology which hasn't any real relevance in the modern world. Shwantz, Rainey, Doohan etc all had major injuries, leaving them out of racing for major periods of time, if not crippling them forever. I can't see any major factories of the 4 stroke era wanting to go back to the old days of riders being out for weeks/months at a time.
The amount of money invested in modern 4 stroke machines, and the riders who race them, means that the manufacturers will want to keep rider aids (TC etc) , as part of the mix. These machines cost way too much money to be thrown down the road every other practice session and race. It still happens now, even with the modern electronics available. Imagine if someone like Rossi had major injuries every year due to the viciousness of the motorcycle. As it is, we already this year, have had major injuries to Hopper (No1 rider for kawasaki), Capirex (Arguably No1 rider for suzuki), and Lorenzo (Arguably No1 rider for yamaha on michelins).
With a regular field of 18 riders, which was 16 last week at Assen, motoGP needs all riders on the grid, all the time. There's far too much money at stake now, especially with many major sponsors not coming forth, with huge amounts of cash. It poses a major problem for Dorna and the FIM, especially with the fantastic riders and manufactures, (not to mention the great racing) of WSBK.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Jul 2 2008, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Then you will quote from an interview Mat Oxley did with Graziano 20 years ago to prove how clever you are and make a ... of yourself again.

........ ...... show me the basis of this fairytale!

I hope Rossi doesn't go to WSBK because it would just .... it up. All the Rossi groupies would follow and then we would have to listen to all the ........ about how Rossi was only beaten because Bayliss has an advantage because of ..... and Haga has ..... etc etc.

WSBK is pure and for fans of racing. No groupies allowed!

On the other hand I would love for MotoGP to fall over as I can't stand Dorna and their corrupt blackmailing antics and unbelieveably stupid rules changes.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jul 1 2008, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm telling you ...... WRC has him in their sights for 2010 or 2011 ....... their chief has already stated they are going to recruit big names to lift the profile of rally.

and an instant boost of WRC fanbase as all Valentinos fans defect straight over to WRC.

Rossi will eventually win his first section of a rally ........ then all fanboy hell will break loose!!

I have know doubt that some fanboys would defect to WRC if Rossi went over, But a lot of us are race fans as well as Rossi fans, unfortunately you will always get the sado's who are so needy they have to support the winner, because that's the only way that they can feel like a winner themselves.

I am a big Rossi fan, but I've watched him since his 125cc days, I like him because he used to have weird colour hair and he was always messing around, I would have liked him just as much if he had lost every race, because he made me laugh!

When you have been in the same sport for so long, you will inevitably have a large band of loyal follower's, who get really up-set...dare I say down right aggressive... when some 5 miniute wonder of a fanboy comes on here and gives you a load of bull-....!