Giving a patient room and securing them to a proper restraint is only medical procedure once the vitals are all good. We know Tomizawa's vitals were not good. Imo, it is not correct to criticize the corner workers. Butler never afforded them the luxury of examining him without first moving him.
So Barry is wrong - read what he is saying. Lex you've reiterated exactly what I originally said. Race direction never afforded the team at the corner the luxury of examining him before he was moved - and that is exactly what Rog and I are saying. It should have been flagged.
Couch hounds Barry? wtf? - even after such a tragic turn of events you still degrade and hurl your personal jibes Barry. You never bother to read the detail of other peoples posts.
I would very much like you to read the following which I didn't post on here out of respect for the rider...although it disturbed me immensely at the time.
Recently I was returning from work in slow moving traffic. the opposing traffic was free flowing and approaching me was Repsol Blade. Because I had some guy drive into the back of us in February, I am very vigilant about my rear view mirror. I glanced at the traffic behind and was horrified to see a car performing a sudden U-Turn obviously frustrated by the queue. The rider had cracked the throttle open and was probably doing in excess of 70mph when he struck the front of the turning car. I saw the impact and leapt out of my car and sprinted back to the wreckage where the rider had been hurled some 20 yards up the road. Unbelievably the damaged car continued its turn and sped off. I gesticulated to the oncoming traffic that this was a hit and run - some guy veered and tried to block him, but he swerved around him and sped off. The driver set of in pursuit, and I memorised the number. Weird how the mind works under stress, I swore that the car was bottle green, I still can see it in my mind - it wasn't - it was in fact burgundy. I turned my attention to the rider and ran to him. I honestly thought he was dead. Thank God, I got there and he was groaning. I opened his visor but as far as i was concerned as far as I could tell, he was dying - his eyes were glassy and pallid grey - ( I was later told that this was symptomatic of shock). I removed his glove which was half way off, and gripped his hand and started babbling crap at him - anything that came into my head really. I know it sounds, well almost throwaway, but I was determined that he wasn't going to die alone. He was cogent so I gussed that he hadn't suffered head injuries, but had a badly broken leg, and when he gurgled up blood, I realised that he had pretty bad internal injuries, and probably bleeding to the lung. It took several minutes for other cars to stop, and sickeningly several vehicles slowed to take pictures on their phone. Fortunately one of the guys who had been behind the rider was a doctor, who had gathered some kit, and was next on the scene. Two more off duty doctors also arrived, and I then stepped back and awaited the police and paramedics. The air ambulance landed within fifteen minutes of the accident, and they did not move him for an hour because they were trying to stabilise him. He was eventually placed on a stretcher and flown to the RTA unit in Coventry. They caught the driver, and the occupants of the car, who is still in custody. He was driving a stolen car, and unbelievably is pleading not guilty. I will gladly look him in the eye when I testify in Court as a witness when hopefully his scumbag goes down for a large chunk of his sorry worthless life- (only being the UK - he probably won't.)
I am no medical expert. Michael and Gator can give far more insight regarding such a situation. All I have been told by the doctors and medics on the scene, by the police and by the Witness Care Officer assigned to me is that the Air Ambulance saved that mans life. His injuries were so severe that the was within minutes of passing away on their arrival and they were fighting to stabilise him at the roadside for an hour. God bless the immediate actions of those doctors that mercifully had been driving home before the air ambulance arrived.
I have not had my bike on the road this year. Firstly, due to the whiplash I suffered in Feb, which isn't great when you ride am unergonomic sportsbike, and secondly I lost my life Insurance when I was made redundant last year - and had to secure a contract in my new job which conferred the benefits of full cover. I seriously questioned whether to ever ride on the road again. I eventually succumbed to the inevitable and finally put the R1 back on the road last week.
I saw the benefits of that air ambulance, and could only watch in awe at the professionalism of the crew that arrived. For those in the UK, if you can donate then do - it is such a powerful resource.
I'm sorry Barry if you think I am a disrespectful couch hound , but like most on this forum I care passionately about this sport. The dreadful memory of Craig Jones death at Brands still genuinely haunts me - and what happened to me last month, will always remain. When I mentioned Craig to you in a previous thread you dismissed his memory because he didn't exist in the twisted world of Barry ....... Machine. I doubt you were watching this terrible event as it unfolded, you have never regularly commented on Moto2 so why comment now?
I don't have that degree of professional detatchment that the personnel of the emergency services need to perform their jobs so effectively - and I was very disturbed by what I witnessed. I am no couch hound as those that have met me by virtue of not generally being on my couch will hopefully testify, I am devastated along with most about the death of Shoya. Furthermore I remain firm in my conviction that had the race been immediately flagged, the necessary resources could have been deployed to the circuit within minutes to attempt to save his life. .... the Moto 2 Race, screw the MotoGP race. Like Kato, he was carted off the track while the race continued. Why shouldn't I be enraged by that - where's the lack of respect in that?
Had the rider in the accident I witnessed been hurled onto a stretcher within seconds of the crash, and to allow the traffic in that lane to continue,
he would have died. Nothing more to say
