The Untouchables

Keshav said:

Have you noticed that the more I withdraw from the conversation - the more overwrought your replies become? As my interest wains - your attempts to draw me back in become increasingly melodramatic and frenzied.

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povol said:

I havent noticed you withdrawing from the conversation. On the last full page alone, you have close to half the posts.

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povol said:

I havent noticed you withdrawing from the conversation. On the last full page alone, you have close to half the posts.

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JohnnyKnockdown said:

The last time I saw such a poor attempt to withdrawl was the night of my conception

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Little Walter said:

I give up. Trying for a while and can't place the face of you new avatar. Who is that?

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#22 said:

This had me in stitches!

I just watched the early stages on the Sepang race, it's laughable that anyone can not see Rossi's part in the entire build up to, and the incident itself. Saying Rossi had little or no blame in it all is like saying the iceberg had no part in causing the sinking of the Titanic.

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Gaz said:

There is no evidence that an iceberg exists .................. it is all a conspiracy I tell you ........................




Serious side though, at least today some dimwits would capture the iceberg and collision on their bloody smart phones and would forget that maybe, just maybe if they wanted to live to tell the story they would be best on the lifeboat rather than staying and filming it. Darwin awards at their finest

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Gaz said:

There is no evidence that an iceberg exists .................. it is all a conspiracy I tell you ........................ [emoji14]

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JPSLotus said:

Kesh, this has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with your penchant for lying.

You were the one who REFUSED to acknowledge that Valencia was a one-line circuit that results in a significant lack of overtaking more often than not in dry conditions, when the machines are evenly matched. After repeatedly showing you proof confirming this, you continued to argue in the other direction. You ignored EVERYTHING I said and didn't even bother to read something that I had to post about 5-10 times before you even commented on it.

Then within a day, you suddenly were claiming you were engaging in nothing more than speculation and refused to acknowledge you completely ignored Oxley's statements, which have been confirmed by many others out there. You said you were uh, "advancing an idea" as if it were some sort of original thought. We heard it already from the ..... noobs who all came running onto the forum because they needed to defend the Great Yellow Hype from all comers. Probably 90% of the MotoGP viewership claimed MM was helping JL. You adding to that is nothing new.

Again, you doubled down on an indefensible position, got ripped for it over the last 5 pages, and then crawfished your way into another position. Now you're playing the victim.

This is why more often than not, .... goes south around here whenever people get into a debate with you.

Debating Kesh goes like this.

1) Both sides stake their positions.
2) X tells Kesh why their position is what it is, why Kesh is wrong, and provides evidence.
3) Kesh tells them why his position is what it is, why they are wrong, and provides evidence that either has nothing to do with what is being discussed or is an isolated incident.
4) X tells Kesh to read something and to look at this evidence.
5) Kesh ignores anything contrary to what his position is and continues providing no real evidence.
6) Repeat steps 4 and 5 multiple times.
7) Kesh starts saying he was misunderstood, and that he really meant this instead of that. This happens to be a slightly modified version of whatever position X took.
8) X keeps asking Kesh to back up his original position.
9) Kesh continues modifying the position step 7 and then accuses X of personally attacking him for daring to think differently and claims everyone is out to get him. Then throws thinly veiled insults all while trying to hide behind the veneer of civility.
10) Dr. House diagnoses Kancer has struck.

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JPSLotus said:

Ahhh, I don't even say much of anything today, and lo and behold, Kesh is still shitting up the forum.

Most people would eventually ask themselves why do people pile onto me? Is there something I'm doing wrong that elicits the responses I get? What do I have to do to change this?

Not you though Kesh. I really have to commend you. You press ahead with your claims of being a victim through it all, and acting as if you have done nothing wrong. You'd have us believe your motives are as pure as the fallen snow in winter.

Kesh here's the real clue: no one bothers to defend you.

Think about that for a moment...in fact, think about it for a day, or even a week!

No one defends you.

That should be a sign as to how people really see you.

But just another friendly reminder.

Valencia is in fact a one line circuit. Dani Pedrosa closing the gap to MM is not an indicator of overtaking potential since he could not overtake MM. MM was opting for a last lap overtake, and he had the opportunity taken away when Dani attacked. Absence of something is not a proof of a conspiracy. Had MM even overtaken JL, JL still would have won the title. If you were engaging in conspiracy, MM winning the race would have been far more preferable since it takes away the questions about the Spanish mafia. Lastly, the only reason a conspiracy was thought to have taken place was due to the insinuations of one VR. You are gullible, and you were proven to be gullible.

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Little Walter said:

I give up. Trying for a while and can't place the face of you new avatar. Who is that?

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Keshav said:

Nobody much cares about this. And more importantly - the ...... poisonous vibe around here has driven away all the most interesting people. Pretty soon it's just be you and the goon squad and the sound of crickets chirping, just like it was after the usual suspects made this place a war zone a few years back; exactly as I predicted. Even Jum's tom-boy friend who was treating him like he was the Sun King a while back got disgusted and hasn't been back. Hate and intolerance doesn't make a forum grow, and basically that is all you and the goon squad have to offer.

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Keshav said:

Nobody much cares about this. And more importantly - the ...... poisonous vibe around here has driven away all the most interesting people. Pretty soon it's just be you and the goon squad and the sound of crickets chirping, just like it was after the usual suspects made this place a war zone a few years back; exactly as I predicted. Even Jum's tom-boy friend who was treating him like he was the Sun King a while back got disgusted and hasn't been back. Hate and intolerance doesn't make a forum grow, and basically that is all you and the goon squad have to offer.

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birdman said:

Well I put to you Rossi's fans are actually more powerful than he is. Leaders are only powerful in that they control subjects. This is going to extremes, but Hitler was not a power unto himself now was he? Not an impressive physical specimen. Not an Olympian athlete. Just a dude with a moustache. Yet he did motivate, in ways the world has basically never seen. Descent people did unthinkable things. In the name of a cause. To be champions of the world I assume? Humans remain primitive at their core. I certainly am.

Ok so Rossi is no Hitler, Oxley thinks he is a good decent human, but then curiously goes on to say many racers are not descent humans? I found that particularly odd. Being a good human and a good sportsman tends to be a bit of a contradiction philosophically speaking. For example in sport its acceptable, even desirable to take advantage of any weakness of the opponent, even when it doesn't exist - hi Casey. Fans dont exactly feel sorry for the opposition. Yet to be a good descent human, we need to protect the weak.

In my initial assessment of Oxley I wasnt so much surprised he needed to say Rossi was a decent human, as if that was under debate (as in what does he know of Rossi we dont?) but why he mentions sportsman often arent?

Ok so Rossi conducts his fans like the maestro he is. Yes, that's his greatest power, over Dorna and the opposition apparently. It is clear post PI Rossi did not want Iannone to be the subject of the fanbase hate. Whats interesting is how quickly Rossi himself redirected them to away from Iannone to Marquez. So I conclude he could now just as easily put them to ease with Marquez, but as far as I know he has let them persist, even though they threaten.

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Keshav said:

That's Ryan Villopoto. He rides a Monster Energy Kawasaki

Knockdown and Ryan are like twins . . . except the only bike that Knockdown has ever sat astride is this one.

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Keshav said:

Nobody much cares about this. And more importantly - the ...... poisonous vibe around here has driven away all the most interesting people. Pretty soon it's just be you and the goon squad and the sound of crickets chirping, just like it was after the usual suspects made this place a war zone a few years back; exactly as I predicted. Even Jum's tom-boy friend who was treating him like he was the Sun King a while back got disgusted and hasn't been back. Hate and intolerance doesn't make a forum grow, and basically that is all you and the goon squad have to offer.

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MdubSTYLIE said:

Don't ....... go there again. Why don't you ever know when to shut the .... up and move on? Its like you are addicted to being an ....... and then trying to turn it around on everyone else. Same old .... from you keeshy.

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JPSLotus said:

Kesh, you know what proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you are the biggest ....... sack of .... scumbag ............?

Your sentence about "Jum's tom-boy friend".

Sparrows has said nothing to you in this topic, or even weighed in, and you have the ....... gall to bring her into it?

What the .... is wrong with you?

Actually that's a rhetorical question. You're a washed up, junkie sack of ..... I'm sure your brain only operates around 50% of capacity since you burned all your brain cells off exploring reality.

You are not liked at all Kesh. I have not seen one person even try to defend you because you are indefensible. Everything I have heard about your real life behavior indicates you're a person with no respect, honor, or ethics. Your behavior on here only serves to confirm that.

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