name='Jumkie' date='28 May 2010 - 07:04 PM' timestamp='1275069842' post='239502']
Ah so did you read this in a press release somewhere? Dorna panicking? Why would Dorna "panic"????? (Lets stop and think about this for a minute, why would the governing body of an 'authentic competition' "panic" over one of the competitors threatening to leave?) I don't remember any official statement from Dorna that they "panicked". Are you "slandering" Dorna?
We both know Rossi is above the sport (which you have indirectly admitted above), and Dorna will move mountains for him.
Well Dorna is a business at the end of the day, It's not about favoring a rider to give an advantage ,it's about keeping your assets that earn your pay check. Sure dorna would have panicked when rossi said he would rather retire
than be forced to re-sign for something he did not want. The same was obviously true with Pedrosa and no doubt it would also be true for riders like Stoner and Lorenzo. The show is only as good as the star's that star in it. No press conference needed to point out the obvious.
You are correct, Bstone said they did not want to supply anybody else, and after all the threats from Dorna, they forced their hand.
You see this is where you take you speculation and pass them as facts. Just because you keep repeating it does not make it a fact.
Lets get this part straight, only after Bridgestone said they wouldn't supply Rossi came Rossi's retirement threat,
Well no .... Sherlock, As i said above he would rather retire than be forced to re-sign for a product he did not want. He saw he contract with them to the full, why should he be forced to use them ?
do you remember what came after? Oh yeah, the single tire supplier threat from Dorna telling Bstone that the nod would go to Michelin if they didn't supply Rossi.
Again ,speculation. At that time the head man at Michelin died i think. There was a massive power struggle within the company and some say this is why their product fell behind their competitors in 08. Michelin's board Publicly stated they wanted to pull out of racing completely so were in no position to bid for a single tyre contract with Dorna. I would find it very very strange if Bridgstone and dorna did not know about the Michelin problems. So you see there was no way Dorna would or could have made such a threat to Bridgestone.
Ducati even asked to return to Michelin seeing that Bstone's would now go in a different design direction. But what did Dorna do? You see, I believe Dorna did Rossi's bidding, but you don't, so I guess we disagree, eh? Hahaha bro, you think Stoner has enough clout to direct anything with Dorna? Well if he did, we pretty much know what Ducati wanted (perhaps as you say at Casey's behest) they wanted to stay with a tire company that would take the design cues from them. Having Rossi on board really screwed that up
Im not saying stoner or ducati said anything to Dorna. Have have not said that in any of my posts, You just assumed that. Stoner / ducati if they did try to boycott rossi from getting Bridgstone would have talked/ threatened Bridgstone directly. you comment about them Threatening to switch back to Michelin would back this up although i don't believe they would have issued such a threat because of the michelin problem ive talked about above. It was probably more bitching that threats as rossi got the tyres and stoner/ducati still use them.
Wait, you are the one who said Sete & Max had the specials against Rossi. All I did was remind you that this was not true, since Sete was on a Suzuki, which Michelin did not supply with specials. So I pointed out your error. I'm well aware that Suzuki suck, they always have.
Yes i dis say they had specials but i was not talking about as far back as 2002 when sete was on the zook
Top teams like honda and yam would have access to them not the dregs of the grid. Your clutching at straws here compa, we seem to be going further and further back in time to try to make your futile point
Do you expect me to believe you missed the sarcasm in making my point, notice I put "inferior" bike in parenthesis with a few laughing emoticons? That is, you want to down play Rossi's advantages on the Honda with 'specials', tis why I reminded you Biaggi was on the ".... Yamaha" that Rossi fans are so fond of telling us was ....; because as you recall, Rossi fans told us he rose that bike from the dead.
Nah i didn't miss it, i was just stating my stance on this and at the same time pointing out the haters and some rossi fans contradiction.
So who is having it both ways? Did Rossi have an advantage over Biaggi on the Yamaha? You see the shitsnare corner you painted yourself into?
Not me bro, i always thought the yam was a good bike and not that far if at all behind the honda. Even Jb said this. He said the bike is good, biaggi's problem is he runs wide. I think the early M1 results show that Rossi is good at adapting to a new bike quickly and biaggi was full of .... when he said the m1 was .....Even funnier was he could not win on the rc211v, again showing the yam was better than biaggi made it look.
c'mon man, we both know that the parts are tested by the number 2 and test riders back at the factory. Only when they prove to be an advantage does the #1 get them during practice. At which time he may reject it. This is not the luxury of the #2 who is actively testing unproven parts even in race situations.
Well the part im referring to was the pneumatic head. Should have given him an advantage seeing the higher rev ceiling it gave but whatever. My point was Some say like Lorenzo he wants the parts at the same time when others like dani and nick want the others to have them first. I bought this up because Special tyres could be deemed as a new part. Some want them, some don't. If these special tyres worked then they would all have that access and data for the following year at that track.
I would never ignore you compa. I don't see how this was part of the discussion. Nicky was the number two rider (and rightly so); as I'm sure you are well aware Rossi will not stand for a talented rider challenging him from within the team.
So you see Conky, just because your puppet master makes you preach your right and winning doesn't mean you actually are. The shitsnare you fell into was going along with the mindless hater's so much you now look for reasons to everything regardless of the facts layed before. you.
Example. You readily admit rossi is one of the best of all time, then you spend your time looking for reasons to prove this wrong. It's a paradox.
