Tension in the Repsol Camp

L8Braker · May 25, 2010

Pretty good read. The last paragraph about the Repsol garage was interesting.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/May/100524rydernotes.htm

DRILL · May 25, 2010

Great find matey,I love the way Julian puts it in cabbage spiel so I can understand.I could listen to Ryder,Moody and Spalding for a long time.

chopperman · May 25, 2010

L8Braker said:
Pretty good read. The last paragraph about the Repsol garage was interesting.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/May/100524rydernotes.htm

Thats actually quite funny that bit

SprogTheDog · May 25, 2010

Interesting stuff.

I've got a lot of respect for Julian Ryder, but I thought the comment "Or is it just asking too much of a 31-year old to fend off the sharks forever?" sounded a bit premature.

He makes it sound like Rossi is finished.

chopperman · May 25, 2010

SprogTheDog said:
Interesting stuff.

I've got a lot of respect for Julian Ryder, but I thought the comment "Or is it just asking too much of a 31-year old to fend off the sharks forever?" sounded a bit premature.

He makes it sound like Rossi is finished.

I don't think its a case of thinking Rossi is finished or past it just because he is 31. I think it's because finally we have another contender on the grid who is made of the same stuff unlike previous contenders who all lacked in one way or another .

Tom · May 25, 2010

SprogTheDog said:
Interesting stuff.

I've got a lot of respect for Julian Ryder, but I thought the comment "Or is it just asking too much of a 31-year old to fend off the sharks forever?" sounded a bit premature.

He makes it sound like Rossi is finished.

I've noticed a lot of media recently surrounding Lorenzo in increasing amounts of hype relative to Rossi. But the hype will always follow the results, come the end of last season the Rossi hype was as big as it ever has been. Either way though Lorenzo's stature is growing quickly and i think thats a good thing for the sport.

As for the Repsol stuff, i think the battle to be top HRC rider this year is going to be long, hard and potentially bitter. Honda are openly shopping for new riders and both men will want to assert themselfes as best they can. Its going be an excellent sub-plot.

Pigeon · May 25, 2010

Honda fook em they had it all sweet and fooked it up themselves and have since they and there PR Suck...

who will win the power struggle its not the riders Vs... it's Livio Vs Pug..ding ding rnd 1

DRILL · May 25, 2010

Pigeon said:
Honda fook em they had it all sweet and fooked it up themselves and have since they and there PR Suck...

who will win the power struggle its not the riders Vs... it's Livio Vs Pug..ding ding rnd 1

First they lost Vale and then Nicky,never really been the same since.I look to Dovi for salvation but he`s got his work cut out in the current line up I think.

SprogTheDog · May 25, 2010

Tom said:
I've noticed a lot of media recently surrounding Lorenzo in increasing amounts of hype relative to Rossi. But the hype will always follow the results, come the end of last season the Rossi hype was as big as it ever has been. Either way though Lorenzo's stature is growing quickly and i think thats a good thing for the sport.

As for the Repsol stuff, i think the battle to be top HRC rider this year is going to be long, hard and potentially bitter. Honda are openly shopping for new riders and both men will want to assert themselfes as best they can. Its going be an excellent sub-plot.

I agree. Peronally I'd be happy seeing Rossi & Lorenzo scrap it out all season.

SprogTheDog · May 25, 2010

Otis Driftwood said:
First they lost Vale and then Nicky,never really been the same since.I look to Dovi for salvation but he`s got his work cut out in the current line up I think.

Dovi needs to be more consistant.

He gets over-excited after a good result (I remember him saying he was looking to be the 'fifth alien' after his donington win last year)

Honda dont seem interested in podiums though, only wins and I dont think Dovi has got it in him.

Tom · May 25, 2010

SprogTheDog said:
I agree. Peronally I'd be happy seeing Rossi & Lorenzo scrap it out all season.

Yes me too, i love it and hope the battle goes to the wire

SprogTheDog · May 25, 2010

Tom said:
Yes me too, i love it and hope the battle goes to the wire

I would be a bit concerned if Rossi had to race for the title at Valencia.

Dont think my heart would take it.

DRILL · May 25, 2010

SprogTheDog said:
Dovi needs to be more consistant.

He gets over-excited after a good result (I remember him saying he was looking to be the 'fifth alien' after his donington win last year)

Honda dont seem interested in podiums though, only wins and I dont think Dovi has got it in him.

Maybe you have a point Sprog,this year though,he just seems to want to get on with it,no frills no ........ sorta thing.

And yes,I too would love to see it to the wire,whoever is contending.

povol · May 25, 2010

Tom said:
Yes me too, i love it and hope the battle goes to the wire

Since none of my favorites are going to win the title, i would l like to see Lorenzo have it wrapped up with 3 races to go, then win the last 3 races. One of those, ive got my boot on your neck and kicking you in the nuts with my free leg, things.

mylexicon · May 25, 2010

chopperman said:
I don't think its a case of thinking Rossi is finished or past it just because he is 31. I think it's because finally we have another contender on the grid who is made of the same stuff unlike previous contenders who all lacked in one way or another.

Are you talking about the guy who beat Rossi by 100 points in 2007? Or are you talking about the guy who out qualified Rossi by .65 seconds at Donnington, then out qualified Vale by .45 seconds at Laguna, then out qualified Rossi by 1.2 seconds in Brno, and finally he out qualified Rossi by over .5 at Vale's home GP in 2008? Maybe you're talking about the only rider who, when he's on his game, cannot be beaten even by the GOAT?

No matter it's all the same person. He's been around since before this season. Maybe you've heard of him?

Lorenzo is an amazing talent, but he still hasn't achieved anything compared to Stoner. That will hopefully change this season, but Lorenzo has still got to dethrone Stoner as Rossi's nemesis. Stoner might end withdrawing himself from consideration.

chopperman · May 25, 2010

mylexicon said:
Are you talking about the guy who beat Rossi by 100 points in 2007? Or are you talking about the guy who out qualified Rossi by .65 seconds at Donnington, then out qualified Vale by .45 seconds at Laguna, then out qualified Rossi by 1.2 seconds in Brno, and finally he out qualified Rossi by over .5 at Vale's home GP in 2008? Maybe you're talking about the only rider who, when he's on his game, cannot be beaten even by the GOAT?

No matter it's all the same person. He's been around since before this season. Maybe you've heard of him?

Lorenzo is an amazing talent, but he still hasn't achieved anything compared to Stoner. That will hopefully change this season, but Lorenzo has still got to dethrone Stoner as Rossi's nemesis. Stoner might end withdrawing himself from consideration.

07

You got to move with the times Lex. It's 2010 now ........

mylexicon · May 25, 2010

chopperman said:
07

You got to move with the times Lex. It's 2010 now ........

Yes, the past---the land of facts. Take 2009 for instance, when Stoner returned from hiatus and showed up both Lorenzo and Stoner without much pomp and circumstance. He's so good and he has so little personality that it's just boring.

Rossi vs. Lorenzo is just the subplot that selling papers. The real story has been played out since 2007 when Stoner got a factory bike and a nice set of tires. That's what changed the competitive landscape in GP. Stoner was so successful (and so good at boring the hell out of everyone) that they changed the rules.

chopperman · May 25, 2010

mylexicon said:
Yes, the past---the land of facts. Take 2009 for instance, when Stoner returned from hiatus and showed up both Lorenzo and Stoner without much pomp and circumstance. He's so good and he has so little personality that it's just boring.

Rossi vs. Lorenzo is just the subplot that selling papers. The real story has been played out since 2007 when Stoner got a factory bike and a nice set of tires. That's what changed the competitive landscape in GP. Stoner was so successful (and so good at boring the hell out of everyone) that they changed the rules.

...., your starting to sound like a fanboy. This is like a bm post but without the hundreds of emotions

FACTORY · May 25, 2010

mylexicon said:
Yes, the past---the land of facts. Take 2009 for instance, when Stoner returned from hiatus and showed up both Lorenzo and Stoner without much pomp and circumstance. He's so good and he has so little personality that it's just boring.

Rossi vs. Lorenzo is just the subplot that selling papers. The real story has been played out since 2007 when Stoner got a factory bike and a nice set of tires. That's what changed the competitive landscape in GP. Stoner was so successful (and so good at boring the hell out of everyone) that they changed the rules.

sounds like Honda pushing real hard and being a major supporter for the 800cc class......but their jockey and pocket bike did not work like their 990 bike did out of the gate.

or it sounds like the same theme that Rossi had the best bike and special tires at Honda....so of course he was winning.

In 2007 Ducati came out with the best bike under the 800cc rules. Everyone expected the Honda and Pedrosa to have the advantage, or Rossi and Yamaha to be more competive than they were. Ducati took everyone by suprise and the other teams played catch up. Yamaha/Rossi came around the quickest and was able to beat the Ducati/Stoner after one season. Ducati and Stoner have not been able to answer the attack since the 2007 season...... Rossi has 40 podiums with 20 wins to Stoner's 33 podiums with 20 wins from 2007 to 2010 Le Mans. It is too bad he can't run consistant like Rossi, he would probably have another title to go with his 07 crown.

mylexicon · May 25, 2010

chopperman said:
...., your starting to sound like a fanboy. This is like a bm post but without the hundreds of emotions

Just tellin' it like it is. Rossi had two seasons (2002,2003) like Stoner's 2007 season. Likewise, Rossi had two seasons (2006, 2007) like Casey's 2008 and 2009 seasons when he didn't have exactly the tires or the bike he wanted. Stoner doesn't have the power to change the rules so his ascendancy back to world champion (should it happen again) will probably take a bit longer than Rossi's.

Don't leave Stoner out b/c it's convenient. Rossi vs. Lorenzo is just a profitable subplot for the journos. Does anyone really think that Lorenzo can beat Casey when Casey is at his best? I don't, not yet anyway. That might change, but it's a bit premature to start handing world titles to Lorenzo (although I hope he wins this year).

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