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Tardozzi: Stoner is the best rider in MotoGP

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jan 29 2010, 05:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes, but at estoril he could beat neither lorenzo nor stoner, and I don't think it is all that arguable that if he was worried about lorenzo then stoner beating him as well thereby improving lorenzo's position meant that he had reasonable motivation for beating stoner, and in the subsequent 2 races lorenzo who had been good enough all season on the same bike as rossi to still be in a position to be of concern to rossi could not beat stoner despite also having presumably adequate motivation to do so. This is fun
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It all adds up to stoner's performances in these 3 races still being fairly impressive whatever way you want to cut it, although as I have repeatedly said rossi has obviously been the best rider for the last 2 years since he won the two championships. In logic, rossi being really good does not have as a necessary corollary stoner being bad though, rather the contrary one would have thought
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Jan 29 2010, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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Reduced to arguing by metaphor I see; try spanish, you will definitely win
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Despite my relatively advanced age I don't require optical assistance of any description including goggles or google and I don't think I have ever resorted to calling anyone a bopper or goggle wearer of any variety.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (inam @ Jan 28 2010, 06:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Can't see any hat trick there mate!!!

Hat trick of podiums you fool
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jan 29 2010, 07:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Reduced to arguing by metaphor I see; try spanish, you will definitely win
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Despite my relatively advanced age I don't require optical assistance of any description including goggles or google and I don't think I have ever resorted to calling anyone a bopper or goggle wearer of any variety.

Meant no offence at all Michael. We just do not have much subject matter to talk about during Off Season I guess!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Jan 28 2010, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>careful gs. you are starting to sound like a stoner-bopper!
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I'm trying to maintain a balance. Bopperism makes me cringe.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Jan 29 2010, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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I'm trying to maintain a balance. Bopperism makes me cringe.


try this thread - it is good -
General MotoGP chat:

How would you run motoGP?, What would you have done different?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jan 29 2010, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hat trick of podiums you fool
I am sure he is fully capable of making that point himself, you SMART ....
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (inam @ Jan 29 2010, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I am sure he is fully capable of making that point himself, you SMART ....
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Maybe it's just me but sometimes I remember races wrong. This time I just remembered that Stoner beat Rossi 3 times in a row...well sometimes that is more important than the race. In the case of Casey's return that is all anyone cared about. Could he come back and beat Rossi and there was not even a contest. The last race was weird and what can you say? It is easy to speculate that Stoner would have run away with it but we'll never know. Anyhow, the "return" was an event and it certainly does give a clue to what's ahead. If you think Rossi is just going to steamroll to another win you really missed the sign at the end of last year.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Jan 30 2010, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If you think Rossi is just going to steamroll to another win you really missed the sign at the end of last year.Now that's what I call the purest of speculation, before a wheel has even turned.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Jan 30 2010, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Maybe it's just me but sometimes I remember races wrong. This time I just remembered that Stoner beat Rossi 3 times in a row...well sometimes that is more important than the race. In the case of Casey's return that is all anyone cared about. Could he come back and beat Rossi and there was not even a contest. The last race was weird and what can you say? It is easy to speculate that Stoner would have run away with it but we'll never know. Anyhow, the "return" was an event and it certainly does give a clue to what's ahead. If you think Rossi is just going to steamroll to another win you really missed the sign at the end of last year.

The term was being touted a fair bit after Stoner got his PI hat trick, thereafter folks seemed to love saying it, I think partially expecting him to take out the last three rounds.
 
This is all there is to say on the matter...

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Jan 31 2010, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This is all there is to say on the matter...

I could only watch half of it.
 
With regard to Rossi or Stoner fans, and, for the record who were first to be called “Boppers”?
 
The term Bopper refers onlyto the Rossifans, there is no other type of boppers
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Only a true Bopper would suggest such a thing
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Jan 31 2010, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I could only watch half of it.

Must be because it has turned reddish not being at the top and not at the bottom!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Feb 1 2010, 03:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The term Bopper refers onlyto the Rossifans, there is no other type of boppers
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Only a true Bopper would suggest such a thing
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What about Anti-‘Boppers’ Boppers?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vibe @ Feb 1 2010, 01:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>With regard to Rossi or Stoner fans, and, for the record who were first to be called "Boppers"?

Well, since Rossi's been around a lot longer.... Besides, "Rossibopper" rolls of the tongue so fluidly. Stoner's introverted personality doesn't attract true 'Boppers', the sort who behave like 15-year-old-girls who think they're in love.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geonerd @ Feb 1 2010, 09:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, since Rossi's been around a lot longer.... Besides, "Rossibopper" rolls of the tongue so fluidly. Stoner's introverted personality doesn't attract true 'Boppers', the sort who behave like 15-year-old-girls who think they're in love.

No the ones in love, but Stoner attacks the kind that no matter how many times they reject them and tell them that the relation is going nowhere, they simply refuse to see it!

Just joking bro!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Feb 1 2010, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No the ones in love, but Stoner attacks the kind that no matter how many times they reject them and tell them that the relation is going nowhere, they simply refuse to see it!

Just joking bro!
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I was thinking much more in the ways of totally blind faith, in a the way terrorist bombers believe they will go to heaven and live with 20 virgins or something.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Feb 1 2010, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Must be because it has turned reddish not being at the top and not at the bottom!



What about Anti-‘Boppers’ Boppers?
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leave Anti West alone!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Feb 2 2010, 12:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Must be because it has turned reddish not being at the top and not at the bottom!



What about Anti-‘Boppers’ Boppers?
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No you have to get get your own original saying for Stoner fans, its just kiddy copying otherwise and in fact as can be seen in the case of "Boppers" merely supports the whole descripton of the persona of a "Bopper".

It has to be a one word precise meaning that is dead obviously true and cannot be argued against for fear of becoming classified a ..... "The Word"
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