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Tardozzi: Stoner is the best rider in MotoGP

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jan 25 2010, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>like i said..when the mens sized bikes return
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I sure hope you're right, bud. I'm worried that the BS fuel restrictions will make it impossible to remove the stifling electronic 'nanny' that is constantly second-guessing the rider, preventing 'wasteful' activity like rear-wheel steering.
 
Ben told me 152lbs to 158lbs is his expected weight range for this coming year. I think the average is 140lbs in motoGP.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geonerd @ Jan 26 2010, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hell, you boppers actually DO think the sun shines out of Rossi's ..., don't ya!
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And you all CS boppers believe that Sun sets in Stoner's ..., don't ya!
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As great as Rossi is it looks like he won't be passing those genes on....on the other hand Stoner is well on the way. The next generation of legends will likely come from Australia.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jan 26 2010, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think "alien" as gp bike racing parlance goes back much further than that; I recall it being used in reference to mick doohan by one of the other honda riders after finishing second to him.

You guys really doneed the season to start again!
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I mean in its current context .... in current usage.

Perhaps I should have said "dragged the sayingout of the cupboard again"
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Jan 27 2010, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As great as Rossi is it looks like he won't be passing those genes on....on the other hand Stoner is well on the way. The next generation of legends will likely come from Australia.

I was thinking Asia was going to begin producing riders, and India has to be in it too.

Especially when the bikes go electric.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Jan 26 2010, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As great as Rossi is it looks like he won't be passing those genes on....on the other hand Stoner is well on the way. The next generation of legends will likely come from Australia.


is he pregnant - was morning sickness the reason for his 2009 outage?
 
SO are you guys saying a pregnant rider beat all the other riders in MGP at several races in 09
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And that same pregnant rider is known as the best rider in MGP
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Crikey ! that doesn't say much for the other riders!
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Damn! andI thought MGP was one of the last bastions of male supremacy!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jan 27 2010, 06:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>SO are you guys saying a pregnant rider beat all the other riders in MGP at several races in 09
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And that same pregnant rider is known as the best rider in MGP
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Crikey ! that doesn't say much for the other riders!
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Damn! andI thought MGP was one of the last bastions of male supremacy!
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no i think 50 means you're full of .... and CS is a ......
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jan 28 2010, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>no i think 50 means you're full of .... and CS is a ......
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SO what you guys are saying is that .........
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here Curve try a bit of Eyecandy to take your mind off the off season ...

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thats called a ManTard, and if you stop the "potty talk" one day you can be one, and have one of those!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jan 27 2010, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>SO what you guys are saying is that .........
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here Curve try a bit of Eyecandy to take your mind off the off season ...

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thats called a ManTard, and if you stop the "potty talk" one day you can be one, and have one of those!
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Well this time we can agree - at least about the pic - cool bike - this is inspiring - I've got a Husaberg 400 that I've bought Supermotard wheels for, but haven't mounted them yet - too cold and snow right now
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ptk50 @ Jan 28 2010, 04:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well this time we can agree - at least about the pic - cool bike - this is inspiring - I've got a Husaberg 400 that I've bought Supermotard wheels for, but haven't mounted them yet - too cold and snow right now

Yeah I just fitted the motard rims on that, its a 570 that I've had as a loaner for a few months. Its not a bad motard ( perhaps a tad to thumpy
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), but its an amazing off road bike. The new engine configuration works amazing. A 400 you say? what year is that?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ptk50 @ Jan 27 2010, 07:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>is he pregnant - was morning sickness the reason for his 2009 outage?

yadda yadda yadda...you seem to have forgotten Stoner's return hat trick fairly quickly. Stay tuned, more coming. The Yamaha will have a tough time keeping last years peak power with the new engine rule. That's what happens when you run a super-tweaked fake V4 that only lasts 400km. The whinging from Fiat Yamaha will be delightful as the season unfolds.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Jan 28 2010, 04:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yadda yadda yadda...you seem to have forgotten Stoner's return hat trick fairly quickly. Stay tuned, more coming. The Yamaha will have a tough time keeping last years peak power with the new engine rule. That's what happens when you run a super-tweaked fake V4 that only lasts 400km. The whinging from Fiat Yamaha will be delightful as the season unfolds.
Estoril !!! 2nd
Phillip Island !!!! First
Sepang!!!!! First
Valencia !!!!! DNF

Can't see any hat trick there mate!!! oh sorry mate forgot to put my red glasses on
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jan 27 2010, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah I just fitted the motard rims on that, its a 570 that I've had as a loaner for a few months. Its not a bad motard ( perhaps a tad to thumpy
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), but its an amazing off road bike. The new engine configuration works amazing. A 400 you say? what year is that?

it's an older model - 2002
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (inam @ Jan 28 2010, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Estoril !!! 2nd
Phillip Island !!!! First
Sepang!!!!! First
Valencia !!!!! DNF

Can't see any hat trick there mate!!! oh sorry mate forgot to put my red glasses on
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And remember Stoner was not in the fight for the Championship anymore. Rossi had to take care of one and only one Rider called Lorenzo, and only in one out of four last races was Rossi below Lorenzo (Estoril)…

How’s that for Yellows glasses on?

Man, we really do not have anything to talk about in the Off Season.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Jan 28 2010, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How's that for Yellows glasses on?
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REAL Rossi Boppers demand <span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%<span style="color:#ffff00Bopper Vision high quality reality filtering eyewear!

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Accept no substitute!

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Jan 29 2010, 03:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And remember Stoner was not in the fight for the Championship anymore. Rossi had to take care of one and only one Rider called Lorenzo, and only in one out of four last races was Rossi below Lorenzo (Estoril)…
Yes, but at estoril he could beat neither lorenzo nor stoner, and I don't think it is all that arguable that if he was worried about lorenzo then stoner beating him as well thereby improving lorenzo's position meant that he had reasonable motivation for beating stoner, and in the subsequent 2 races lorenzo who had been good enough all season on the same bike as rossi to still be in a position to be of concern to rossi could not beat stoner despite also having presumably adequate motivation to do so. This is fun
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It all adds up to stoner's performances in these 3 races still being fairly impressive whatever way you want to cut it, although as I have repeatedly said rossi has obviously been the best rider for the last 2 years since he won the two championships. In logic, rossi being really good does not have as a necessary corollary stoner being bad though, rather the contrary one would have thought
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