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Stoner's mental weakness

If we are to use crying as an indication of 'mental weakness' then I guess I am in the same grouping as Stoner, Federer, Woods etc etc etc because I have cried.



Ah well, not a bad group to be a member of.











Gaz
 
I love the smell of troll in the morning................Grade A .........
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And I took the bate, hook line and sinker
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Then again it's a repeating issue with bitching and whining riders and in my opinion it all BS. They will and shall always complain. There are more or less sympathetic ways to do it but complain they do.
 
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And I took the bate, hook line and sinker
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Then again it's a repeating issue with bitching and whining riders and in my opinion it all BS. They will and shall always complain. There are more or less sympathetic ways to do it but complain they do.



Been a while since we`ve had a troll attack.
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So Stoner is mentally weak and a ....., yet Honda is offering him millions to ride their MotoGP bike, and Ducati is trying hard to keep him. They must all be stupid, why not let him go fishing
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Toby Moody.

So what is going on in Stoner's head and why is he falling off?



The Aussie fell off in Qatar en route to a sure fine win; he struggled in Jerez, as per normal for him there, to get fifth, while at Le Mans he soon bridged the gap to Rossi, Lorenzo and Pedrosa, who were at the sharp end, only for him to go gravelwards on a maximum lean corner. Again. He intimated afterwards that he could have won and I believe him.



So what is going wrong? Might it be the sure fire negotiations that are going on in the background after his dad and manager, Colin, visited Jerez? Maybe there is a deal done already but no one, less for the two Stoners and three people at HRC, might know that at the moment. But that is not the issue for what is going on out there on the race track once the visor is snapped shut.



To be fair to Casey, he's not riding in any manner different from when he dominated in 2007 and won a further ten races over in the past two seasons. Stoner is not just about to jack it all in and run away either, even though he had his head in his hands and cried (proof once more that he knew it was going to be second or even a win at Le Mans).



He's living in Switzerland in a nice place, and he wants to win, win, win when at the track. Remember that racers are wired up differently to the rest of us, and winning at nearly all costs is a priority in life all day, every day. It eats them up if they don't win, and those reading this who have completeted in anything in life will know how enveloping it can all be.



But what if the 2011 dealings are really bothering the Aussie? Maybe he really wants to go to Honda and leave Ducati? What he may well have is the same thing that ate Rossi, in that the world thought that the Honda 990cc V5 was the best bike in the world (and it was), hence the move to Yamaha to prove that it was in fact he who was the difference and not the bike doing the winning for him.

Casey Stoner

Casey Stoner © LAT



Throughout 2007, the Ducati was streets ahead of the rest, so Stoner took advantage of that because it worked for him. That bike wasn't another 'Bologna-built Italian Honda 990cc V5 clone that all could win on' because his team-mate Loris Capirossi couldn't get near Casey all year. The planets aligned for Stoner so he took the wins, the points and the title. And only the autumn before, he was Ducati's fourth choice of rider behind Sete Gibernau (wanted too much), Nicky Hayden (stayed at Honda), and Marco Melandri (had his option taken up by Gresini).



Now as that 2007 season fades away into the depths, things have changed. A lot of things. Other riders have arrived and won races, while the style of bike you are riding has changed too. Sure, the 2010 Ducati is a different beast than the screaming banshee that the GP7 was, but Casey was given the option of either engine for this year: the screamer or the more torquey version made for all other Ducati riders. He chose the big banger that the others have for 2010, meaning the screamer was left back in Bologna.



But what has the engine got to do with falling off twice in three races and languishing in 13th position in the championship?



Nothing.



It just seems that the front end of the GP10 has something wrong, and that caused Stoner's offs, plus Nicky Hayden having a monster crash in Jerez practice at over 120mph. He still has the near black scabs on his left elbow.



Casey said after Le Mans that it is a corner where you don't put much pressure on the front through that long right hander, but the bike is at maximum lean. It would be easy to point fingers at the Bridgestone tyres, but the other riders seem to be OK. Or is it that the 2010 Bridgestones don't suit the Ducati when it's on a full tank of fuel?



Ducati will be looking hard to avenge the demons so they can win the Italian Grand Prix just as they did last year, while for Stoner he'll just have to keep cool and stay close with the team for whom he's got those 20 MotoGP victories.



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It is so refreshing to read comments by rational and respected commentators and also rational fans instead of the irrational rantings of the biased bigots. I am sure these irrational rantings are often thought of as comedic by the authors but after 3 years it is just so boring.
 
If we are to use crying as an indication of 'mental weakness' then I guess I am in the same grouping as Stoner, Federer, Woods etc etc etc because I have cried.



Ah well, not a bad group to be a member of.











Gaz



Dont forget, Terell Owens and Nancy Kerigan. Woods cried when his dad died, Federer after a win (tears of joy) . But Stoner cried because, he just cant figure out what is going wrong. Hell even Nancy did it out of pain. So the only one left is T.O. and like Stoner he cried because he is mentally weak. So do you cry over mental or physical pain, tears of joy, or do you cry when things aren't going your way? Like a mentally frail person.
 
Either your taking the piss to get a reaction or someone pissed in your corn flakes this morning?

Insightful post
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Try countering it with facts instead of talking bollocks because you're a sheep who wants to follow others blindly. You say great post but then claim you were being sarcastic when jumkie pulls you up.
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And what does he have to show for it? Nothing more than Nicky who is a great guy and hard worker.







Not displaying your ego is called confidence, and is a good thing. But ego and miss placed anger, those are bad things. Yes they all get angry from time to time, but not 3 or 4 times a weekend over some ......... And then go on to say a couple stupid things to the media. Thats all in a days work for Crashy.



What Stoner has to show for it is: many more top podium spots and points overall than Hayden, as well a plane hangar sized

garage to hold all the free exotic sport cars he's won and more pole positions than Hayden and Lorenzo combined - not to mention

the the utter reverence of my favorite up-and-coming rider, Ben Spies.



And who's to say if his anger is "misplaced"? If Stoner places blame somewhere for a mechanical ....-up that costs him

the race - that's not misplaced. If some ....... on the track behaves unprofessionally and Stoner waves a fist at him - so what?

Seems like a lot of the Stoner haters are armchair experts on psychology and claim to know what "really" motivates Stoner

- but it's all wishful thinking - never based on any solid information. Re: things Stoner may or may not have said about his team

or Ducati etc. the difference is that he ....... in public while Rossi does it behind the backs of the riders he's threatened by.

To my way of thinking, Stoner is more forthright, while Rossi is something of a weasel in that department.



And speaking of weaseling.... It's been a month now and you still have not held up your end of the deal. Still waiting to see that picture of you wearing the T-shirt as per our wager. Is this happening? Or will this be like your promise never to come back to the forum?
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Time to man up Dude!
 
And speaking of weaseling.... It's been a month now and you still have not held up your end of the deal. Still waiting to see that picture

of you wearing the T-shirt as per our wager. Is this happening? Or will this be like your promise never to come back to the forum?
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Time to man up Dude!



Patience grasshopper patience. I gave you an appetizer, its not time for the main course yet. You are starting to sound like someone we all know. Impatient, must have everything now. Always turn to personal insults when it get rough. Hmmm who could it be? Tell me do you also throw up when things aren't gowing your way?
 
This is a man who left the best bike and team for the worst bike out there and made it a winner from race one.

Wrong.



Furthermore, he did not single handedly transform the M1 into a winner between seasons - you make it sound as though he did, but this has been exhaustively debated on this forums over countless threads.
 
Wrong.



Furthermore, he did not single handedly transform the M1 into a winner between seasons - you make it sound as though he did, but this has been exhaustively debated on this forums over countless threads.

Your correct in saying this has been exhaustively debated in this forums over countless threads. also The M1 was not by any means the worst bike on the grid prior to rossi and jb taking it over. We all know the Rc211v was the best bike at the time of that switch over but how far behind the m1 was ,well we only have biaggi's word for that
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Fact is rossi went on to win on the yam and biaggi loose on the rc211v. Says more about biaggi that the bikes imo.
 

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