I'm not accusing you of anything, its just observation of your unsporting attitude toward Stoner
Stoner's mental weakness
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I'm not accusing you of anything, its just observation of your unsporting attitude toward Stoner
Well said Tom and essentially not far from Jumkie's post, just blissfully shorter and free from his never ending Rossi Booper Rant (RBR).
Stoners mental strenght can not be measured from crashes, neither can his professionalism. Champonship winners doesn't crash a lot but most of them crash and do so in the heat pushing the limit.
I hope he will be back but fear that lex and even (hate to admit it) BM has a point. That the new bike can not be ridden as the '07 - '09 bikes and that Stoner might continue his crashing as if we were back in '06
Again you accuse me, now of being "un-sporting" with little or no regard as to why i dislike him. Dont ask me to explain why, If you have observed as much as you claim, you will already know.
I'm not asking you to like him, and i'm not likely to ask you to justify your opinions beyond what i have already observed.
I know the seriousness of food allergys, it's part of my job!and I'm sorry to hear about your friend, bee sting allergys are no joke. As for the lactose intolarence thanks to mr. Gatorduc I have been educated on the subject and realize that's it's more than just shitting your pants lol I guess some people suffer from it to different degrees like chopper, he only has a mild reaction unlike Casey. I guess it's just that I agree with schwantz because I share the same beer drinking gun shooting woman chasing stupid cowboy mentality! Thank you for using the hang overs as an example! Thanks to jumkie I've suffered from many of those!
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His whole career in motogp is my proof. The "fastest" rider out there and only one title to show for it. Why? Because he can't handle the pressure. Did you not watch last year? He called of half his season over a tummy ache. Yeah I am ragging on him because he is not macho, like Rossi.
His whole career in motogp is my proof. The "fastest" rider out there and only one title to show for it. Why? Because he can't handle the pressure. Did you not watch last year? He called of half his season over a tummy ache. Yeah I am ragging on him because he is not macho, like Rossi.Sometimes people get picked on because they deserve it. Some people bring it on themselves. I am not saying that Casey is one of those people.....wait, yes that is exactly what I am saying.
Chew on this my friend,those bikes are so powerful that if there is a weakness in your body those handlebars are gonna rip themselves out of the hands in a blink.In the worst case it could end with a death either Stoners or any rider who may get caught in the melee.Without death there would likely still be serious injuries to Casey and again any other rider close to him.
This is not what we want from the sport and Casey made that decision for that reason and doubtless many others.
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Jorge used to constantly throw hissy fits in 125 and 250. That's much of the reason that I was so impressed by his transition into the big class because not only had he come of age, but he had redressed his erratic temperament.
I recall one incident at Turkey, I think it was in the 250 race in '06 when Shuhei Aoyama took out Lorenzo on the first corner, and Jorge stormed off to his team truck in tears and locked himself in the rider compartment for three hours. Such reactions were commonplace - but then alpha male hormones can play havoc with an adolescent .
regarding Schwantz, you couldn't imagine Kev balling his eyes out if you simultaneously burned his house down, killed his dog, and stole his wife and made off with his credit card .
Like Valentino's other major rivals, Max and Sete, Casey clearly does have a mental fragility...as to whether this manifests itself to the same degree on the racetrack I would say no.
I think it is already apparent that Vale will not unravel Jorge with the same ease that he has dispensed with the previous 'pretenders' to his crown.
It isn't hard to be more concise than Jumkie. Knowing how he rambles i didn't actually read his post
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Now you're talking about '08 and '09 - where - excepting the times that he was physically ill
he was consistently (not counting the few times he he crashed) in top three and very much in the alien
club. My understanding of this thread was that it pertained to Stoner's performance in 2010.
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His whole career in motogp is my proof. The "fastest" rider out there and only one title to show for it. Why? Because he can't handle the pressure. Did you not watch last year? He called of half his season over a tummy ache. Yeah I am ragging on him because he is not macho, like Rossi.Sometimes people get picked on because they deserve it. Some people bring it on themselves. I am not saying that Casey is one of those people.....wait, yes that is exactly what I am saying.
My whole point is that lactose intolerance will affect the individual in complex varied symptoms, and manifest itself in different ways. O.K - it wasn't the Epstein Barr infection as was originally postulated, but I do believe that he was suffering form a debilitating fatigue/anxiety in relation to this illness - and perhaps even an element of this was psychosomatic in origin - but very real to him.
Barry Sheene was also inexplicably afflicted by CFS. The immediate reaction from his critics at the time was that it was in fact Kenny Roberts syndrome, and the allegations of mental weakness were even leveled at Bazza.
Thinking about it, Sheeney also sat out three races - admittedly after securing the '76 500cc championship
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His whole career in motogp is my proof. The "fastest" rider out there and only one title to show for it. Why? Because he can't handle the pressure. Did you not watch last year? He called of half his season over a tummy ache. Yeah I am ragging on him because he is not macho, like Rossi.Sometimes people get picked on because they deserve it. Some people bring it on themselves. I am not saying that Casey is one of those people.....wait, yes that is exactly what I am saying.
You say "only one title to show for it" as if that were like, he could only eat one hot dog.
How many other guys in the current MotoGp circus have ever won a championship
- against Rossi no less??? His "whole career" in MotoGp is only only 4 seasons gone by.
Look at Biaggi, Capirossi, Barros etc who have been racing in the premiere class for
decades and never won a championship. Are they also a bunch of losers? Your
fratboy hatred of geeky looking people distorts your perspective.
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Nicky Hayden does, so I guess that settles the argument of who is better, 69 or 27. They are equal. You always make things complicated, I wasn't measuring his talent by championships. I was showing his lack of championships compared to the level of talent.
I dont have problems with losers or geeks. I have a problem with egotistical twats who are full of miss placed anger! And none of those guys, other than biaggi maybe, fit in that category.
Dude! In 06 Lorenzo was 17 or 18 years old. He did a lot of dumb .... when he was younger, in this season he has really shown his maturity sure the celebrations might be a bit much, but he is the winner so he can celebrate however he wants! He showed a lot of maturity in jerez when he congratulated dani and even raised his hand while they were on the podium. A few Years back it took the king of Spain to make them shake hands. If you think I'm stupid now at 24 you should have met me at 17/18 lol
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I aree with what you're saying about Jorge, which is why I mentioned the fact that he was an adolescent then. I was replying to Rog's post about never seeing Lorenzo cry.
I like Jorge - even more since he has come of age, and I have enjoyed many of his stunts and celebrations more than Rossi. Loved the way he rode a fold up Fortuna bicycle into the Parc Ferme at Philip Island one year.
I don't think you're stupid - far from it, and I shudder when I recall how vacuous and naive I was as a teen
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Hayden.. that's right. One guy. Your statement about "who is better", answers a question that nobody asked. Nicky's a great guy - but hasn't been on the top of the podium nearly as much as Stoner - so in terms of races won and points gained - Stoner is miles ahead.
So I take it you hate yourself???
not to display it constantly. But don't kid yourself - a big ego goes with the gig. There isn't a rider out there who hasn't
had fits of temper from time to time - but when you're flying alien class - it just gets more attention.
I aree with what you're saying about Jorge, which is why I mentioned the fact that he was an adolescent then. I was replying to Rog's post about never seeing Lorenzo cry.
I like Jorge - even more since he has come of age, and I have enjoyed many of his stunts and celebrations more than Rossi. Loved the way he rode a fold up Fortuna bicycle into the Parc Ferme at Philip Island one year.
I don't think you're stupid - far from it, and I shudder when I recall how vacuous and naive I was as a teen
Yeah ok. I was really only referring to His time in the premier class as i was only referring to stoners time in the premier class also. Most of us looked at Lorenzo as an arrogant spoiled brat who maybe had a few mental issues himself back then
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And what does he have to show for it? Nothing more than Nicky who is a great guy and hard worker.
So I take it you hate yourself???Seriously... who in MotoGp doesn't have a huge ego? Some are mature enough
not to display it constantly. But don't kid yourself - a big ego goes with the gig. There isn't a rider out there who hasn't
had fits of temper from time to time - but when you're flying alien class - it just gets more attention.
Not displaying your ego is called confidence, and is a good thing. But ego and miss placed anger, those are bad things. Yes they all get angry from time to time, but not 3 or 4 times a weekend over some ......... And then go on to say a couple stupid things to the media. Thats all in a days work for Crashy.
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