Stoner undergoes wrist surgery

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Oct 31 2008, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>looks like all went well, I wish him a speedy recovery ready for 2009.

story:

Ducati rider Casey Stoner underwent successful surgery on his wrist on Thursday in Italy and has already left hospital.

The Australian, who had been hindered by the injury since it reemerged during the latter part of the 2008 season, got two floating bodies removed from the area of the styloid process of the lower arm.

The 2007 world champion was treated for pseudoarthrosis on his left scaphoid before the removal of a staple, which had been inserted during an operation in 2003.

He also received a bone graft using the Herbert Bone Screw System, which is designed to promote early active motion.

Stoner will begin his rehabilitation over the next few days in Switzerland.

LINKY:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71860

pic of screw in scaphoid

did they get that sand out of his ......?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Oct 31 2008, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>did they get that sand out of his ......?
I saw that you had posted last on this thread and thought to myself: 'Will he make a remark about Casey getting his ...... fixed or his tear ducts closed up?' Personally, I would have made some sort of remark regarding Stoner having his tear ducts closed up so he can't cry next season but ......l jokes are much more your speed, eh Curvey?

Rossi fans be very afraid...competition still exists.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Oct 31 2008, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I saw that you had posted last on this thread and thought to myself: 'Will he make a remark about Casey getting his ...... fixed or his tear ducts closed up?' Personally, I would have made some sort of remark regarding Stoner having his tear ducts closed up so he can't cry next season but ......l jokes are much more your speed, eh Curvey?

Yes..i find ...... much more interesting than tear ducts....

BUT in Stoners case, there's a reason...The tears are caused by the ...... hurting

^^^

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Nov 1 2008, 02:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi fans be very afraid...competition still exists.

R U really a .... or do you just practice hard?

Having been the victim of scaphoid fractures on both hands ( as well as a variety of other random fractures ) I gotta say that the successful completion of surgery has absolutely nothing to do with (possible) recovery. GSFAN you're gonna have 2 wait for the ultimate result mon ami...

michaelm please explain this to me in language i can understand mate.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Two floating bodies removed from the area of the styloid process of the lower arm.

The 2007 world champion was treated for pseudoarthrosis on his left scaphoid before the removal of a staple, which had been inserted during an operation in 2003.

He also received a bone graft using the Herbert Bone Screw System, which is designed to promote early active motion.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Nov 1 2008, 05:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>michaelm please explain this to me in language i can understand mate.

Its easy mate the translation is: THE DOCTORS ARE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Oct 31 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes..i find ...... much more interesting than tear ducts....

BUT in Stoners case, there's a reason...The tears are caused by the ...... hurting
Jokes like that, your wasting your Talents here curve, i mean .......

Anyway be worried for 09 curve be very worried. 2008 Rossi last title

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Nov 1 2008, 03:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes..i find ...... much more interesting than tear ducts....

BUT in Stoners case, there's a reason...The tears are caused by the ...... hurting

Is that Adriana's 'gina you're referring to, or Casey's mangina?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Oct 31 2008, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>michaelm please explain this to me in language i can understand mate.
I wonder why they bother putting out such terse statements using highly technical terms; probably to show how smart they are .

I think I can make some sense of it although they have been very sparse with the details. The styloid process of the radius is where it comes to a point on the outside of the wrist on the thumb side; the scaphoid is immediately adjacent to the radius on the proximal/forearm side of the wrist joint. Presumably bits of bone separated from the scaphoid had lodged there which can cause pain and locking up when they move around.(EDIT styloid process of his ulna according to a different article which sounds a little odd; this is on the other side of the wrist).

Pseudoarthrosis means false joint; in chronically ununited/unhealed scaphoid fractures fibrous tissue and cartilage can grow in between the the 2 fragments of the scaphoid. They would have had to resect this and have put in a bone graft between the fragments and screwed it together with a surgical screw. I looked up the herbert screw; it is apparently frequently used for internal/operative fixation of the scaphoid and in one version can apply compression which is thought to aid healing. When used in acute fractures they allow return to activity more quickly than immobilisation in plaster.

Casey's situation is more complex than immobilising a fracture with a plaster or screw soon after an acute fracture in which situation 90 % or more of fractures heal ok and as mick d says whilst surgery may have been successfully performed this does not guarantee the bone will heal. At least there is no reference to avascular necrosis /death of the bone which hopefully he does not have; the X-ray which accompanied one of the stories after brno looked like a distal fracture which is not the type prone to this.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Oct 31 2008, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>pic of screw in scaphoid
Where is this X-ray from?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Nov 1 2008, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Where is this X-ray from?

I have the feeling it is a "generic" herbert screw picture and not one of Casey's actual injury. It is from Washinton "edu" site - a medical school in the U.S? No real connection with the Casey injury I would guess.

Also - that picture is gross

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Nov 1 2008, 07:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have the feeling it is a "generic" herbert screw picture and not one of Casey's actual injury. It is from Washinton "edu" site - a medical school in the U.S? No real connection with the Casey injury I would guess.

I agree it looks like a herbert screw (going by the article I looked up; I was not aware of these screws previously).

It does not appear consistent with the description of casey's situation; gsfan and I previously had a discussion about generic X-rays .

I am somewhat heartened by the report of the surgery as it does not sound as though he has avascular necrosis.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Nov 1 2008, 08:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I agree it looks like a herbert screw (going by the article I looked up; I was not aware of these screws previously).

It does not appear consistent with the description of casey's situation; gsfan and I previously had a discussion about generic X-rays .

I am somewhat heartened by the report of the surgery as it does not sound as though he has avascular necrosis.
thanks for the explanations mike its handy having a resident doctor on the board
yes its very good news his bone hasn't died, i presume that would have threatened his career.

Cheers MM - An explanation worth more than all of us are paying you.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Nov 1 2008, 06:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I wonder why they bother putting out such terse statements using highly technical terms; probably to show how smart they are .

I think I can make some sense of it although they have been very sparse with the details. The styloid process of the radius is where it comes to a point on the outside of the wrist on the thumb side; the scaphoid is immediately adjacent to the radius on the proximal/forearm side of the wrist joint. Presumably bits of bone separated from the scaphoid had lodged there which can cause pain and locking up when they move around.(EDIT styloid process of his ulna according to a different article which sounds a little odd; this is on the other side of the wrist).

Pseudoarthrosis means false joint; in chronically ununited/unhealed scaphoid fractures fibrous tissue and cartilage can grow in between the the 2 fragments of the scaphoid. They would have had to resect this and have put in a bone graft between the fragments and screwed it together with a surgical screw. I looked up the herbert screw; it is apparently frequently used for internal/operative fixation of the scaphoid and in one version can apply compression which is thought to aid healing. When used in acute fractures they allow return to activity more quickly than immobilisation in plaster.

Casey's situation is more complex than immobilising a fracture with a plaster or screw soon after an acute fracture in which situation 90 % or more of fractures heal ok and as mick d says whilst surgery may have been successfully performed this does not guarantee the bone will heal. At least there is no reference to avascular necrosis /death of the bone which hopefully he does not have; the X-ray which accompanied one of the stories after brno looked like a distal fracture which is not the type prone to this.Information like this is why I still come here

It's a generic picture of a Herbert screw . Small bone wtth a big tiianium(?) fastener. Makes for a good halloween shot. I said "Rossifans be very afraid" because it seems to have gone well. I know he has severl months to go in rehab. I've done physio for an injury. Not fun.