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TP70 said:
Great post J4rn0. I agree completely and is what I am trying to say. The effort needs to be made to foster talent right down at the grass roots so in 5 - 7 years time we see riders from a wide spread of countries filtering through the ranks. I am not blaming Spain or Italy even though it may sound like that it is not their fault if they get it right. What I have tried to say is that the governance of the sport needs to look down the line always to mitigate risk which should always involve broadening the audience of spectators and sponsors as well as the participants. None of these things can be done over night. If I was Dorna my number one goal would be getting Moto2 spec championships in every country that has any sort of motorcycle culture just as they should have been doing for the last 10 years with 125 and 250.
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That was their main reason for tv contracts with non pay per view channels. I agree more needs to be done but it is a business and needs to generate guaranteed revenue to pay the bill's. If country's have not shown too much interest (bear in mind the series has run since 1949) so it's not a new thing than it's not a viable business option to start pumping big money in that area. Thats why there's 3 gp's in spain and 2 in the Italian region, guaranteed revenue.
 
Mick D said:
Nice try but no one can sign now... gotta love the Italian press though... also maybe a translation thang?
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Why can't they sign now , is there a rule about that, like a transfer window
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? Would seem strange to announce such a move this early in the season and if it is true is that the end of Repsol with HRC ?
 
chopperman said:
Why can't they sign now , is there a rule about that, like a transfer window
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? Would seem strange to announce such a move this early in the season and if it is true is that the end of Repsol with HRC ?
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Yeah, there is... I think they can't sign 'til the summer break... hmmm - maybe someone with more currently functioning brain cells will remember...
 
TP70 said:
Great post J4rn0. I agree completely and is what I am trying to say. The effort needs to be made to foster talent right down at the grass roots so in 5 - 7 years time we see riders from a wide spread of countries filtering through the ranks. I am not blaming Spain or Italy even though it may sound like that it is not their fault if they get it right. What I have tried to say is that the governance of the sport needs to look down the line always to mitigate risk which should always involve broadening the audience of spectators and sponsors as well as the participants. None of these things can be done over night. If I was Dorna my number one goal would be getting Moto2 spec championships in every country that has any sort of motorcycle culture just as they should have been doing for the last 10 years with 125 and 250.
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I agree with the Moto2 issue TP,I`d also like the 125s rid of and get these 450 singles in,they are already races for them in the UK and the USA so the talent is in good supply.
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Mick D said:
Yeah, there is... I think they can't sign 'til the summer break... hmmm - maybe someone with more currently functioning brain cells will remember...
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I am not aware of any official transfer window, but i think it's written into most contract negotiations how early they are allowed to announce the deal publically
 
Oniker said:
Repsol leaves, enter RED BULL.



Red Bull Honda sounds good
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Tom said:
Didn't redbull back out of sponsoring Ducati because they want too much control of the team, like in F1? I doubt they'd get this from HRC and i suspect they'll be thinking of getting a moto2 chassis sorted for Marquez in a couple of years time, then go from there.
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Nail on the head, Tom. Red Bull won't merely sponsor a team, they want control of their own. That's why the Red Bull Ducati deal fizzled out in 2008 and that's why the Red Bull KR deal never materialized in 2005, 2006 or 2007.



The Moto2 project appears to be a no-brainer for Red Bull, but I have to wonder if they'd do it as it's not a premier class. Sure, they can establish themselves as a team in Moto2 and nurture talent but they run into the same problem as they face now: No factory or team of any consequence in MotoGP is ready to hand the reigns over to Red Bull. That's where they want to be, and running a Moto2 team may not get them any closer. Although it's probably only a matter of time before they throw a bunch of money at Ducati or Honda for factory kit and support and poach some top-level techs and engineers and create their own team in that manner.



geewhiz14 said:
Oh and Rossi will not move to Ferrari. Speculation is that Kubica is lined up to partner Alonso.
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I've read that, too. What I've heard is they're lobbying hard, and apparently with moderate success, for a third seat. So they likely will end up with Alonso and Kubica. But they might also have Rossi, or another third driver, in addition to those two.



mylexicon said:
I could be off my rocker, but I think Suppo is campaigning very hard to by Ezpeleta's replacement. He's a moto-marketing guru and I think his level headed approach would be good for GP.
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I could get behind Suppo running the show.



Mick D said:
Yeah, there is... I think they can't sign 'til the summer break... hmmm - maybe someone with more currently functioning brain cells will remember...
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I'm not so sure about this, unless something's changed in the past season or two. Remember, Hopkins signed for Kawasaki in May or June of 2007.
 
bill88 said:
http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/4354/bombshell-casey-stoner-signs-with-honda



stoner signs with honda
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SportMediaSet is like the gossip magazine of Italian motorcycling. GPone, much more serious, has already published a declaration by Suppo in which he denies any contract has been signed. He says that everybody is talking to everybody these days, etc. the normal talk... Silly season...
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Apart from this incident, I think there is a very strong possibility that Stoner actually goes to Honda, because of the strained relation with Marlboro since last year. Maybe it's not signed, but it could easily be signed.



I am also sure Ducati are making big offers to Rossi. But Rossi is a FIAT man, and Ducati already have a very strong sponsor.



One important bit of information regarding the silly season is this: Furusawa in going into retirement at the end of this year. That could matter a lot for Valentino, whose loyalties are always very personal. Furusawa has always been Rossi's saint in Yamaha's heaven. Once Furusawa is gone there will be only Jarvis left, who seems to have a pragmatic bias for younger Lorenzo.



So there is a solid reason why Vale could leave Yamaha and go Italian Red way, independently of what Stoner does. Still it has to be seen which Italian Red Rossi may wear in 2011. I think it could be Ferrari, a FIAT company
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J4rn0 said:
SportMediaSet is like the gossip magazine of Italian motorcycling. GPone, much more serious, has already published a declaration by Suppo in which he denies any contract has been signed.
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i agree about gpone.. it's probably the best site for information (for someone who knows italian of course). i read what suppo said. i think stoner might have signed but suppo could wait some time until it can be official. or if he hasnt, he will and he will be riding for hrc next year. i think that's what's going to happen after all.



and if that happens i think rossi (and jeremy burgess) will probably go to ducati. i dont think valentino is going to f1 now. maybe after ducati.
 
I dont think Rossi wants to go anywhere, his career is coming to a close and with a move he's looking at a year of development before taking another title. Plus the upcoming rule changes, thats a lot to deal with and still win a title. Im not saying he cant do it, hell I know he can. He doesnt have that many more years to play around. He knows the Yamaha very well. Why risk your last few years jumping ship and trying to rebuild. Just doesnt make sense. I think Yamaha is going to do what they can to keep both, they're sitting on the top and know Rossi is gone in a few years. Lorenzo is only getting better. Why let either of those two go?



As for Stoner, Honda better start saving pennies because the guy is going to cost them big, for signing and the bikes he'll wreck. I've never been a Stoner fan, his wife yes, him no. Between his complaints and irradic riding behavior and his mysterious illness thing. Not good. When I see someone like Lorenzo riding around with two broken ankles and CS cant even ride because he's ill for how many races. He's just not cutting it. Also it's known that Repsol wants a Spainard and they have one, they jumped on Pedrosa. I would think there more interested in Lorenzo than Stoner.



I wish a top seated rider would go to suzuki and really do something with the bike. Pedrosa...maybe.



As for Red Bull. Well to me the grid is a bit short, I would welcome another team to the grid thats for sure. But I dont think it's gonna happen. Wouldn't that mean all the other sponsorships across the gird would cease if they started a team, probably. Maybe Monster, that would be cool. Dorna should really try and make sure the gird size next year is increased to say 24.
 
I don't know, Lorenzo has stated that he wants to stay at Yamaha, even with Rossi and that doesn't bother him. Rossi can stay and innevitably get beated by him eventually, quite while he's ahead, or move somewhere else knowing that if he loses it's gonna be the bikes fault in the fans eyes.
 
Tikki said:
I wish a top seated rider would go to suzuki and really do something with the bike. Pedrosa...maybe.
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Duude! It's not the riders. Suzuki has been a half-assed low-budget affair for years. If Capirossi were

to replace Edwards at Tech .... - he'd podium after 6 races or so. Edwards is a nice guy - but he

just doesn't go the extra mile. No fire in the belly.
 
mylexicon said:
At least it's something to fill the void in between races. I'm not terribly interested in the silly season rumors or the hearsay, but it is fun to imagine that the grid could be transformed in a way that would improve the entertainment and the racing.
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Lex...very true. This talk of Stoner signing with Honda is just the beginning. At the end of the season Ben will have to install another server to handle the increased load on here as I'm sure many threads will be going off!
 
Just read an interview from Suppo on GPONE.COM who says Stoner has not signed anything...



He basically says that all top 4 riders contracts are up at the end of the year, so it is only natural for the top teams to look at all possibilities and speak with the top 4 riders. Nothing more nothing less...



Here is the link for those of you that read italian:



http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/news/ultime-news/612-suppo-qstoner-non-ha-firmatoq.html
 

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