I am happy for that to go on record.
I'll shave my head if Simoncelli gets a factory ride before 2013.
Even Suzuki?
Or Kawasaki if they are back?
Just to be clear TP.
I am happy for that to go on record.
I'll shave my head if Simoncelli gets a factory ride before 2013.
I know its not quite latin america but Yonny Hernendez from Columbia is close. He is the bees knees!
I think the top is as strong as it has ever been but once you drop down past the top 6 or 7 riders I think the talent is pretty average. Considering this is the elite of the elite I think the depth is poor. I don't want to continuously harp on the Spanish Italian thing but they are farming in too small a field. You can't have the top 5 riders from each of two countries and call it elite. You also can't fix it over night it will probably take 5 years to foster talent in many countries so the top 1 or 2 riders from 10 countries are in the elite category.
I know its not quite latin america but Yonny Hernendez from Columbia is close. He is the bees knees!
....... hell TP, Cant you be consistent in your argumentYou have contradicted yourself several times this past week. You were telling us how it's all the bike and unless your on a top factory ride you have no chance. Now the tallent is poor below the top 6 or 7 riders
Oh, I'll dig into it... Where does he Ride? I'll follow up as I used to with Barros, past era though!
Pls bear with me for my ignorance, but when did 500cc or MotoGP di have 10 - 15 alien sort of riders competing in a single season???
Its always been like this.
I think the top is as strong as it has ever been but once you drop down past the top 6 or 7 riders I think the talent is pretty average. Considering this is the elite of the elite I think the depth is poor. I don't want to continuously harp on the Spanish Italian thing but they are farming in too small a field. You can't have the top 5 riders from each of two countries and call it elite. You also can't fix it over night it will probably take 5 years to foster talent in many countries so the top 1 or 2 riders from 10 countries are in the elite category.
Look at Capirossi for example : 190 Premier Class starts for only 9 wins. Now I like Capirossi but come on he should have moved on well before now. Colin Edwards: 121 starts for 0 wins. Melandri: 116 starts for 5 wins.
Now tell me when do you think any of the below riders will score a victory:
Kalio
Espargaro
Bautista
Barbara
Simoncelli
Aoyama
Edwards
Capirossi
Melandri
Oh, I'll dig into it... Where does he Ride? I'll follow up as I used to with Barros, past era though!
That list is of extremely good riders! 6 of the 9 are motorcyle racing world champions, 8 of the 9 have won races at grand prix level. The best 4 riders are miles ahead, but the riders behind them are still an assortment of some of the very best riders in the world. I don't understand what you want/ expect from the motogp grid, but it seems to me like you are simply bitter that europe (particularly Spain and Italy) is the home of most of the worlds best riders, but its hardly surprising considering the money that goes into the sport, a reflection of its national popularity. We can dream that they'd have the best couple of riders from each nation on the grid, but the 3rd best Spanish rider in the world is as good or better than the best Brit so the situation we have is hardly surprising.
That list is of extremely good riders! 6 of the 9 are motorcyle racing world champions, 8 of the 9 have won races at grand prix level. The best 4 riders are miles ahead, but the riders behind them are still an assortment of some of the very best riders in the world. I don't understand what you want/ expect from the motogp grid, but it seems to me like you are simply bitter that europe (particularly Spain and Italy) is the home of most of the worlds best riders, but its hardly surprising considering the money that goes into the sport, a reflection of its national popularity. We can dream that they'd have the best couple of riders from each nation on the grid, but the 3rd best Spanish rider in the world is as good or better than the best Brit so the situation we have is hardly surprising.
Spot on tom. your making it very difficult for me to disagree with you this week.
That list is of extremely good riders! 6 of the 9 are motorcyle racing world champions, 8 of the 9 have won races at grand prix level. The best 4 riders are miles ahead, but the riders behind them are still an assortment of some of the very best riders in the world. I don't understand what you want/ expect from the motogp grid, but it seems to me like you are simply bitter that europe (particularly Spain and Italy) is the home of most of the worlds best riders, but its hardly surprising considering the money that goes into the sport, a reflection of its national popularity. We can dream that they'd have the best couple of riders from each nation on the grid, but the 3rd best Spanish rider in the world is as good or better than the best Brit so the situation we have is hardly surprising.
I'll put it out there and say that Simoncelli never gets a factory ride in MotoGP. After a few years on satellite machinery he defects to WSBK and fills the hole that Biaggi leaves at Aprillia when he retires.
Moody has mentioned thae fact that Colin Stoner was there at Jerez, indicates deals are being looked at.
Even Suzuki?
Or Kawasaki if they are back?
Just to be clear TP.
Pls bear with me for my ignorance, but when did 500cc or MotoGP di have 10 - 15 alien sort of riders competing in a single season???
Its always been like this.
If 40 Spaniards and 40 Italians are recruited into GP, law of probability suggests that more of them will make it to the top level. There is nothing special about any particular nation in regards motorcycling abilities. Within a given populace there are only going to be so many world championship types so it's actually better to toss the Spanish and Italian deadwood as quickly as possible and replace them with kids from other continents.
Dorna understand the problem and Suppo has gone on record as saying that the concentration of Spaniards and Italians is bad for the overall health of the competition and the profitability of the sport. Moto2 was designed to widen Dorna's net by introducing a GP class at the national level in North America, Asia, Australia, and South America. Moto2 bikes will make national riders more familiar with GP equipment and it will make their performance more easily understood by GP scouts. Considering the difficulties of running 1000cc engines at most national circuits, it would be wise for Dorna to make another Moto2-like class using 750cc displacement, imo. It might actually replace SBKs in some of the nations that have safety issues.