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Stoner says Danni can't beat him on same tires.

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Its all gonna change once Danni gets the tires dialed inn. I think Danni will place ahead of Stoner in Sepang and in Valencia. This can only be good for the sport. I wonder what Stoner will be thinking once Danni starts beating him again like in the 250s. To me their both excellent but i still hold Pedrochio as being better the Stoneman.

Another thing. This race in Sepang is gonna be the best race yet. there are at least 7 riders able to take the win.
 
i believe the honda is the best all round machine on the grid well for dani anyway
( i hope they dont .... dovi over)... the yam has good handling and is well balanced and the ducati is just a beast.

if dani gets the tyres sorted he could be the biggest threat he has been in motogp so far, the pnuematic engine has come along way and il bet honda had some nice updates for next season...

but still think he will have to learn to fight to take on rossi and stoner
 
Where did Stoner say Dani can't beat him on the same tyres? That's a misleading title...
But, anyhow, Stoner > Pedrosa.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Oct 18 2008, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i believe the honda is the best all round machine on the grid well for dani anyway... the yam has good handling and is well balanced and the ducati is just a beast.

if dani gets the tyres sorted he could be the biggest threat he has been in motogp so far the pnuematic engine has come along way and il bet honda had some nice updates for next season...

The Yamaha is by far the superior machine. People like to say the Honda's got power on top, but from the races i've seen the Yamaha blows away the Honda in the straight.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Oct 19 2008, 03:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The Yamaha is by far the superior machine. People like to say the Honda's got power on top, but from the races i've seen the Yamaha blows away the Honda in the straight.


man are u crazy the honda winds up way quicker than the yam when the yam reaches the very top end maybe but out of a corner the honda is faster at accelerating
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RCV600RR @ Oct 19 2008, 03:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Where did Stoner say Dani can't beat him on the same tyres? That's a misleading title...
But, anyhow, Stoner > Pedrosa.


stoner said in a motogp interview hes confident he can beat dani on the stones.

dani may get away witha open track but 1 on 1 stoner would batter him
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (esco @ Oct 18 2008, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its all gonna change once Danni gets the tires dialed inn. I think Danni will place ahead of Stoner in Sepang and in Valencia. This can only be good for the sport. I wonder what Stoner will be thinking once Danni starts beating him again like in the 250s. To me their both excellent but i still hold Pedrochio as being better the Stoneman.

Another thing. This race in Sepang is gonna be the best race yet. there are at least 7 riders able to take the win.

Where the hell did you read that. I need a link or something.

Anyway, do you have a problem with numbers? Or have you missed this season and last. Stoner, at the moment, is the better rider. Pedro seems to have closed the gap a bit by moving to the b's but there is only one more race on his "special" tires and then we move to the spec tire? Sounds like Pedro may have an issue with the tire next year, at least that's what Bridgestone has speculated.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Oct 19 2008, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The Yamaha is by far the superior machine. People like to say the Honda's got power on top, but from the races i've seen the Yamaha blows away the Honda in the straight.
Sure, the Yamaha is faster up top...<u>If the Honda is ridden by an obese Pinky</u>

Anyone who has two eyes can see the superior power of the Honda. Just refer to Indy, with Nicky and Valentino's battle. By the way, where did you learn that the bike with superior top end power is a 'superior' machine, as you clearly imply?

Tyres, engine power, power delivery, chassis adjustability, electronic refinement are all very important factors which cannot be discounted when assessing the relative strength of a machine.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RCV600RR @ Oct 18 2008, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sure, the Yamaha is faster up top...







<u>If the Honda is ridden by an obese Pinky</u>

Anyone who has two eyes can see the superior power of the Honda. By the way, where did you learn that the bike with superior top end power is a 'superior' machine, as you clearly imply?

Tyres, engine power, power delivery, chassis adjustability, electronic refinement are all very important factors which cannot be discounted.

yeah...and the Yamaha package has all of that.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Oct 19 2008, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah...and the Yamaha package has all of that.
I never said it didn't. It was you who(rather unwisely) implied that 'top' end engine power was the only aspect of comparison worth mentioning.
 
I wonder if SuperShinya knows his boy has the Pneumatic valve engine and thats why hes doing good
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Stoner won 3 of his first 4 races on a Bridgestone and a championship.

Rossi won his first championship on them as well and a shitload of races.

Dani has been on these tyres for a few races and I'm not seeing better than Michelin. In fact his "overrated" (sarcasm) teammate has been frying his little munchkin drumsticks off using the bad Michelin tyres.

Casey is right.

The only way Casey will be wrong on that one is if the better tyres and handed out to...Honda, then Yamaha then....it isn’t control tyre racing. It's a tyre to control racing.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Oct 18 2008, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>stoner said in a motogp interview hes confident he can beat dani on the stones.

dani may get away witha open track but 1 on 1 stoner would batter him

And 1 on 1 on 1, Rossi ‘would’ batter them both… Sorry, not ‘would’, more like ‘Has’ battered them both (Motegi 2008 from lap 3 to lap 6). Go Rossi!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Oct 18 2008, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Where the hell did you read that. I need a link or something.

Anyway, do you have a problem with numbers? Or have you missed this season and last. Stoner, at the moment, is the better rider. Pedro seems to have closed the gap a bit by moving to the b's but there is only one more race on his "special" tires and then we move to the spec tire? Sounds like Pedro may have an issue with the tire next year, at least that's what Bridgestone has speculated.


theres an interview on motogg site. It was when The announcement that Danni was moving to Bridgestones came out. They asked him about his season and if he fears Danni on the same tires. He said that he is the fastest rider in motogp and that Danni can't beat him on the same tires.
Hes very confident but he i still danni will beat sometimes.

i found the interview but i hope i dont get in trouble for posting this.

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2008/Stone...ns+Misano+crash
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Oct 18 2008, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The only way Casey will be wrong on that one is if the better tyres and handed out to...Honda, then Yamaha then....it isn’t control tyre racing. It's a tyre to control racing.
I'm glad this was brought up. Although maybe it's been brought up before and I missed it as I've been in and out of this place as of late.

Lex has made a lot of noise about Bridgestone and Michelin supplying certain tires to certain riders and making some tires inaccessible to some riders. Given, this is all apart of the loved/hated Lex Files but Lex's theories have been given some support in recent weeks/months. Now with Bridgestone not having to compete with anyone else, who's to stop them from doing it again? Bridgestone are now in the position of deciding who will be world champion, if they felt so inclined. Maybe Bridgestone feel that Valentino Rossi is the most marketable rider on the grid, or they feel it's Nicky Hayden or Dani Pedrosa or Casey Stoner. It doesn't matter. Let's say Bridgestone have selected the rider they think can sell the most tires, who can stop them from giving that rider top drawer rubber that is not available to other riders?

If the solution is some sort of regulation to be done by the FIM or MotoGP, shouldn't Bridgestone's '07 Special and Michelin's Previously Pedrosa's have been caught by such regulation?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Oct 19 2008, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm glad this was brought up. Although maybe it's been brought up before and I missed it as I've been in and out of this place as of late.

Lex has made a lot of noise about Bridgestone and Michelin supplying certain tires to certain riders and making some tires inaccessible to some riders. Given, this is all apart of the loved/hated Lex Files but Lex's theories have been given some support in recent weeks/months. Now with Bridgestone not having to compete with anyone else, who's to stop them from doing it again? Bridgestone are now in the position of deciding who will be world champion, if they felt so inclined. Maybe Bridgestone feel that Valentino Rossi is the most marketable rider on the grid, or they feel it's Nicky Hayden or Dani Pedrosa or Casey Stoner. It doesn't matter. Let's say Bridgestone have selected the rider they think can sell the most tires, who can stop them from giving that rider top drawer rubber that is not available to other riders?

If the solution is some sort of regulation to be done by the FIM or MotoGP, shouldn't Bridgestone's '07 Special and Michelin's Previously Pedrosa's have been caught by such regulation?

The moment Dorna wouldn't let Ducati on Michelin I was sold (on the Lex theories).

I think the correct thing was to go to a control tyre and basically take your tyres all from the same pool of tyres. That is the solution. (or tyre competition)

Now I was listening to the guys on Eurosport (Justin TV) the commentators (those good ones) commented how everyone came out of the tyre meeting and blew up, nary a happy camper amongst them.

Denning and Suppio apparently huddled in the corner and lamented this decision, only one or two riders or teams seemed happy, Ducati and Suzuki certainly weren’t them.

I cannot see any good coming of this.
 
They blew up because they found out the difference between a single tire and a control tire and that this league was moving to a single tire. All the manufacturers know how this game is played. I suspect that Pedro may get his championship after all
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (an4rew @ Oct 18 2008, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I wonder if SuperShinya knows his boy has the Pneumatic valve engine and thats why hes doing good
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Shinya was on the standard spring valved engine this race in Sepang. And oh yeah, he kicked Stoner's butt.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Oct 19 2008, 08:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Shinya was on the standard spring valved engine this race in Sepang. And oh yeah, he kicked Stoner's butt.
Yeah Yeah he Kicked Stoners Butt.
You can put ...... Nakano in the same League when he has won 15gps and set a few records on the way. Enjoy it while you can ...... only has 1 more race left in his Career??
Brag about that man, but yes he did finish in front of an injured Stoner, but good on him..