Stoner: Rossi is riding well

Rossi doesn't care what Stoner has to say about hoim - if it's he's riding well or mommy he pushed me. With few exceptions Rossi has always ridden well at this test, but hasn't always done so well afrer. - Roll on season 2010 - it's going to be different - if only because of Dorna's stupid new rules

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ptk50 @ Feb 22 2010, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi doesn't care what Stoner has to say about hoim - if it's he's riding well or mommy he pushed me.

Seriously dude..... you're a moron !!!!

Rossi and Stoner know that they are the two best riders on the planet and the only challenge for each other. It doesn't bring either one down to compliment the other. And I disagree it will be the same regardless of Dorna's stupid rules. Rossi or Stoner. Just like every year.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Feb 23 2010, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi and Stoner know that they are the two best riders on the planet and the only challenge for each other.

I dare say Jorge, Dani and even Spies may disagree with that, not to mention Chad Reed, Jason Crump.............

I suggest a re-phrase or two

Me thinks the Spaniards, particularly one of them, gave VR much more to worry about in 09.......

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ptk50 @ Feb 22 2010, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi doesn't care what Stoner has to say about hoim - if it's he's riding well or mommy he pushed me. With few exceptions Rossi has always ridden well at this test, but hasn't always done so well afrer. - Roll on season 2010 - it's going to be different - if only because of Dorna's stupid new rules
Seriously, no one cares about what you had to say either.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Feb 23 2010, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I

Me thinks the Spaniards, particularly one of them, gave VR much more to worry about in 09.......
It is inarguable that lorenzo gave him more trouble than stoner in 2009, but still not a great deal. Imo rossi always had it in control, and it partly got relatively close because with no other threat rossi indulged himself by trying to beat lorenzo in individual races rather than riding strategically. Do you really think there is any chance of jorge beating rossi whilst both are factory yamaha riders (or ever for that matter)?.

On the other hand, during rossi's career in the premier class I can't see how it can be argued that any rider has given him more trouble than stoner, whether or not this is a large amount of trouble in absolute terms, and the person who has given him the second most trouble is hayden not lorenzo.

I am as patriotic (?patriarchal) as the next australian, and rate crump highly (I knew his aunt apart from anything else) but I think stewart was incomparable in the supercross last year.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Feb 23 2010, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Seriously, no one cares about what you had to say either.
Some people would take issue if stoner opined that the sun was likely to rise in the east tomorrow.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Feb 23 2010, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It is inarguable that lorenzo gave him more trouble than stoner in 2009, but still not a great deal. Imo rossi always had it in control, and it partly got relatively close because with no other threat rossi indulged himself by trying to beat lorenzo in individual races rather than riding strategically. Do you really think there is any chance of jorge beating rossi whilst both are factory yamaha riders (or ever for that matter)?.

On the other hand, during rossi's career in the premier class I can't see how it can be argued that any rider has given him more trouble than stoner, whether or not this is a large amount of trouble in absolute terms, and the person who has given him the second most trouble is hayden not lorenzo.

I am as patriotic (?patriarchal) as the next australian, and rate crump highly (I knew his aunt apart from anything else) but I think stewart was incomparable in the supercross last year.

I agree about stoner. Even if Lorenzo ended up ahead last year because of stoners DNS's there is no doubt who is the #1 challenger. No of wins give a good indication. No of championships another.
They will compliment each other right now with the knowledge that they are the two main challengers for the title. Let's see what they say halfway out, it might not be as nice.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Feb 22 2010, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi and Stoner know that they are the two best riders on the planet and the only challenge for each other. It doesn't bring either one down to compliment the other. And I disagree it will be the same regardless of Dorna's stupid rules. Rossi or Stoner. Just like every year.


hate to burst the bubble.. but Stoner was 4th last year.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 23 2010, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hate to burst the bubble.. but Stoner was 4th last year.
So it's settled then, Rossi was the second best rider in the world in 2006, and third best in 2007. Right?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Feb 23 2010, 09:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So it's settled then, Rossi was the second best rider in the world in 2006, and third best in 2007. Right?

yes he was, but at least Rossi has at least a couple championships under the belt i think
... Nick and Stoner are one hit wonders they've done .... since..its not rocket science

Curve- you are just stirring the pot again

For me the nagging question is Stoner's mental health. Really.
So how much of his illness was lactose intolerance? How much was mental pressure.

Lorenzo has proved to have a strong mind and excellent race craft.
Stoner has all the tools, the question is whether operator mental facilities are up to par.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 23 2010, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hate to burst the bubble.. but Stoner was 4th last year.

That bubble is quite impenetrable.........results....meh!

It is quite debatable who has given Rossi the most trouble over the years, and once again it all depends on your POV.

09 gave us 4-5 good dogfights, many more than 08 or 07. So this could be seen as a much more intense competition, and I think it really showed on both VR and JL. Being on the same machine added rocket fuel to this.

08 we only really had Laguna, and CS was the man feeling the heat. It became a battle of the mind rather than an on track rumble.

Of course Stoner in 2007 was unstoppable, but there were only 2 races that year which could have been called a real dogfight-and Rossi's Kamikaze moves in China were just entertainment with most knowing he could never beat that missile on those straights. And such was the superiority of that Marlboro boys that year it wasn't really a contest at all. So of course there was plenty of trouble, but real pressure racing? Not IMO. The Taxman didn't help either

06 was a much different story, with as with 2007 to a certain degree, much VR's battle was actually with the reliability of the M1 and the hit and miss performance of the Michelins, combined with Nicky's determination and consistency. Of course this is highly debatable, but to the detractors (i know your fingers are burning to get to the keyboard) I can only offer that by 08, once the M1 and rubber was better sorted-the results speak for themselves.
I believe Sete and Max gave VR many more closer quarters dogfights especially in 01 and 04-05, this of course could be partly contributed to the nature of the machines back then. But VR was of course much younger back then and in 2009 he seemed to feel the pinch quite a bit more, maybe its age-who knows?

IMO Sete and Jorge have given VR the most trouble on track.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 23 2010, 08:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hate to burst the bubble.. but Stoner was 4th last year.

Oh you were sleeping through the whole illness thing last year I see. Well let me tell you how it went. Rossi won. Stoner was sick and didn't race well or at all for a bit, came back, but sadly, to little to late. If you could tell anything by his late year riding he is just as dominant as ever (aside from the pre-race fall). As I recall no-one else had a chance against Rossi while Stoner was gone. Lorenzo was great intermittently and won a couple. No biggee. Colin did well. It was over from Indy onwards.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Duc999 @ Feb 23 2010, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Curve- you are just stirring the pot again


its a reality stew in the pot, help yourself to a bowl dude...plenty made for the rest also.



<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Feb 23 2010, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh you were sleeping through the whole illness thing last year I see. Well let me tell you how it went. Rossi won. Stoner was sick and didn't race well or at all for a bit, came back, but sadly, to little to late. If you could tell anything by his late year riding he is just as dominant as ever (aside from the pre-race fall). As I recall no-one else had a chance against Rossi while Stoner was gone. Lorenzo was great intermittently and won a couple. No biggee. Colin did well. It was over from Indy onwards.

And I guess you've slept through the past 10 years then.
IF Stoner wouldnt have pussied out sure he might have made a race of things till the end...but he didn't, his tummy hurt so he needed 3 months off....... even Lorenzo when he had two broken legs went out on track... Or how bout Capi and Marco, back a few years ago? member that Catalun crash? Or were you napping? They man'd up and rode for whatever points they could..I respect that, tougher than nails, true balls...If you were awake during Rossi's two non championship seasons you'd know why he lost..and it wasnt cause of a ......l infection...1, .... bike and tires all year, Nick won, he was the best that year..2, Slow ... 800 Yam, Stoner took advantage with the fastest bike and took it, he rode the .... outa the bike, he was the best that year.. past 2 seasons? coulda woulda shoulda, Stoner folded like a lawn chair under the pressure. period.

have a bowl of soup

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 24 2010, 11:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>its a reality stew in the pot, help yourself to a bowl dude...plenty made for the rest also.





And I guess you've slept through the past 10 years then.
IF Stoner wouldnt have pussied out sure he might have made a race of things till the end...but he didn't, his tummy hurt so he needed 3 months off....... even Lorenzo when he had two broken legs went out on track... Or how bout Capi and Marco, back a few years ago? member that Catalun crash? Or were you napping? They man'd up and rode for whatever points they could..I respect that, tougher than nails, true balls...If you were awake during Rossi's two non championship seasons you'd know why he lost..and it wasnt cause of a ......l infection...1, .... bike and tires all year, Nick won, he was the best that year..2, Slow ... 800 Yam, Stoner took advantage with the fastest bike and took it, he rode the .... outa the bike, he was the best that year.. past 2 seasons? coulda woulda shoulda, Stoner folded like a lawn chair under the pressure. period.

have a bowl of soup

leave him in his coma it much more fun that way

I only have this to say:

LET'S GET IT ON!!!!

Funny how a Stoner thread once again is getting lots of post (mainly spurred on by the boppers screaming 12,679 championships blah blah blah) whilst poor old Rossi thread is languishing as it drops down the page. Maybe you guys should trot on over to your Rossi thread and sprout your love there!!!

I dare say Jorge, Dani and even Spies may disagree with that, not to mention Chad Reed, Jason Crump............. huh.gif








Don't disagree with many on this subject except for the "my riders the best, crowd"

But you mention Chad Reed with the best in the world? Does Talpa refer to some drug that is that strong?