Stoner is coming back with Ducati = for testing
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I think this quite a bit as well.
Given how out of his element he was when VR decided to turn the guns on him, I think he's another hyper-competitive racer who still on some level believes his talent is what matters most and that's what will settle all questions. He just wants to race much the way Stoner did, and others have.
The entourages these guys drag around are problematic. It's a shame because no one needed this .... years ago. Now ever top racer thinks they have to carry around a bunch of hangers-on.
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I don't think comparing Bayliss to Stoner is even close to an accurate comparison tbh.
I dunno man, Stoner was a once in a lifetime talent that for as good as the current top guys are, still aren't as good as he was. I think all he would need is one race to ramp up. He's still young enough. He put little prep in for the 8 Hours of Suzuka, and he was at or near the top of the sheets right away.
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i have to agree with you, its kinda arrogant to come up and say something like that, after all at that stage the guy was the reigning and 2 time world champion and the main contender, coming up and saying this guy was threatened by someone who hasnt been racing for couple of years ! huh?! but on the other hand it make sense too, wasnt marquez critical about his testing and contribution and.... i could imaging him not wanting casey racing beside him even if cant be competitive. i do love casey but just cant figure out whats the point of saying something like that(on that manner) other than raising bad blood or whatever,
ps; guys, seriously, how did you manage to get rossi into this! thats just weird.
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It's understandable that MM might feel threatened. Stoner's legend is larger than life, and MM has never raced him. Even if MM has made his mark in the premier class he's still, relatively speaking, the new kid in town. Folks always falsely assume that the guy at the top is without insecurity, but that's never the case. And MM hasn't exactly had a stellar season in 2015 - so his confidence is probably not at it's highest mark just now.
Let us not forget that MM criticised (or allegedly criticised) the very feed back taht Stoner had provided to Honda at the start of season 2015 with regards to the engine characteristics and suggested certain improvements.
If I recall the comment (which is elsewhere in the forum) MM made comments regarding poor feedback from the test riders - found this version of it
“With regard to the evolution of the bike, it’s been made for the Japanese tester. When Stoner tested the bike, he identified the problem, but it’s clear after not riding a MotoGP bike for a year, you can’t develop anything.”
Source - Marquez doesn't think Stoner can develop his bike - GPxtra
Plus there have been numerous comments reputedly made by MM regarding CS' ability (or lack thereof) as the test rider.
Reading the article however I do not see it so much as anything other than answers to questions that had been posed and with journalism that leaves out the question asked it is difficult to read whether it is a ... or a response to a leading question
Either way, personally I like it ............... good to see some verbal sparring but we should also remember that MM and Alzamora did pretty much ditch Stoner's team so there is no doubt, little love lost between the two.
If I recall the comment (which is elsewhere in the forum) MM made comments regarding poor feedback from the test riders - found this version of it
“With regard to the evolution of the bike, it’s been made for the Japanese tester. When Stoner tested the bike, he identified the problem, but it’s clear after not riding a MotoGP bike for a year, you can’t develop anything.”
Source - Marquez doesn't think Stoner can develop his bike - GPxtra
Plus there have been numerous comments reputedly made by MM regarding CS' ability (or lack thereof) as the test rider.
Reading the article however I do not see it so much as anything other than answers to questions that had been posed and with journalism that leaves out the question asked it is difficult to read whether it is a ... or a response to a leading question
Either way, personally I like it ............... good to see some verbal sparring but we should also remember that MM and Alzamora did pretty much ditch Stoner's team so there is no doubt, little love lost between the two.
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as ive stated i have no argument over your point. but the decision was made at the start of 2015, so they didnt know how season could turn out back then.
my problem was with casey's comment and in they way he was saying, he could simply come up and say my contribution to Honda was not appreciated and so on, not mentioning names and being specific,....
unless you feel something like this(which is completely respectable.):
Ya know it's possible Stoner knows more about what happened at Honda regarding him and MM than we do. I doubt very much this is directly from MM and reading his comments to me they don't sound like criticisms of Stoner more like the guy hasn't tested the bike in a year he can't be developing it, Rather than he hasn't ridin a bike in a year he doesn't know what he's doing.
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Agreed that Stoners talent is unique. However, Biaggi was not 'fighting for wins' and got 1 podium at Sepang on a bike that goes well there and he also got a private 2 day test at that very circuit the week before the WSBK.
IF Stoner got a private 2 day test on a GP16 at PI a week before the race, I'd bet the house on him getting a podium.
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I wouldn't agree that Stoners talent is unique as there's others out there who have performed at least as well in the class and also very much better in the smaller classes.
I'm more interested in seeing how he manages the 1000cc Duc as all his experience on the Ducati was the smaller, and better performing 800..
Tyres will be same for all so less of an issue I think.
GL, MM, VR and CS on the same track would be something to look forward to even if they are all at different stages in their careers.
I'm more interested in seeing how he manages the 1000cc Duc as all his experience on the Ducati was the smaller, and better performing 800..
Tyres will be same for all so less of an issue I think.
GL, MM, VR and CS on the same track would be something to look forward to even if they are all at different stages in their careers.
