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Hes looking for an actress for his next shizer film
Hes looking for an actress for his next shizer film
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That's nothing compared to this scheme I'm playing on this one dutch kid. Can't wait for him to stay at our place and free him of his liver .my grampa needs it badly
That's nothing compared to this scheme I'm playing on this one dutch kid. Can't wait for him to stay at our place and free him of his liver .my grampa needs it badly
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Damn k , if .... was that expensive I'd choose to be an alcoholic or a schmuck drunk on straight edge any day of the week
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Both hilarious ideas and both way off the mark. Sorry. You obviously have your opinions of Cliche and I have mine, I don't recognise the person I speak to in some of things he's accused of here, it's like night and day but there you go.
Besides, we've all said/done things that make other people judge us in our life, continuingly putting someone down because they said/did something you don't agree with doesn't help anyone least of all them. Of course I assume when you do that you're perfect, right?
I know I'm not, I have plenty of faults but thankfully no one here is judging me on them because I haven't told you what they are thankfully.
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Both hilarious ideas and both way off the mark. Sorry. You obviously have your opinions of Cliche and I have mine, I don't recognise the person I speak to in some of things he's accused of here, it's like night and day but there you go.
Besides, we've all said/done things that make other people judge us in our life, continuingly putting someone down because they said/did something you don't agree with doesn't help anyone least of all them. Of course I assume when you do that you're perfect, right?
I know I'm not, I have plenty of faults but thankfully no one here is judging me on them because I haven't told you what they are thankfully.
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So then Pov & Kesh, and any others, would it have been ok if there had been a coup on Wbush given his popularity rating had been in the teens, had violated the constitution, and had turned his back on many promises? Is there not a recall system in Egypt? Pov says millions opposed the president, but millions elected him, as opposed to a disputed election (2000 Florida, where family members were in charge) while then a few military officials deposed him by force. U two seem to justify it was for the good of the country. By this logic, Can u imagine how much "good" it could have been not to be involved in two costly wars, one by complete false pretense, not to mention the mass bail out of banks, a "crisis" he helped create as wealth transfer? Was there no democratic system in place for the egyptian prez to be impeached by what u guys describe as the overwhelming voice of the people?
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We have a system where a dictator cannot set himself up to be the supreme leader for life, unlike the countries of the ME. If a leader gets out of hand. we show him the door at the next election, or weaken him in the mid term elections. Like Kesh said, Morsi was manuevering himself and the MB to take charge of not only Egypt, but the entire region if left unchecked. The people saw it, and made their move. It was actually very inspiring to see a people who were not completely asleep at the wheel. If a President of the US ever tries to appoint himself lifelong ruler of our land, expect chaos and an eventual overthrow of that government.
We have a system where a dictator cannot set himself up to be the supreme leader for life, unlike the countries of the ME. If a leader gets out of hand. we show him the door at the next election, or weaken him in the mid term elections. Like Kesh said, Morsi was manuevering himself and the MB to take charge of not only Egypt, but the entire region if left unchecked. The people saw it, and made their move. It was actually very inspiring to see a people who were not completely asleep at the wheel. If a President of the US ever tries to appoint himself lifelong ruler of our land, expect chaos and an eventual overthrow of that government.
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Did he set himself up as supreme leader for life? Was the next election cycle suspended? So he was setting himself up to take charge of the "entire region"?
Syria's citizens tried this "overthrow" and look what its got them. Military jets dropping bombs, artillery fire, and mechanized weapons on cities.
You sound very naive Pov. Its a simple Game of Thrones, where you always seem to identify with might is right. You should know we really don't care about "democracy", after all, look at our "allies" in the region. There is no way the military would have executed this coup unless they were given the green light. We love "democracy" when the right leaders are elected, but "revolution" we call it when they are not. When the people rose in Lybia, we were on it. When they rose in Syria, we were not. Why? Try getting your info in other places instead exclusively from Fox buddy.
Did he set himself up as supreme leader for life? Was the next election cycle suspended? So he was setting himself up to take charge of the "entire region"?
Syria's citizens tried this "overthrow" and look what its got them. Military jets dropping bombs, artillery fire, and mechanized weapons on cities.
You sound very naive Pov. Its a simple Game of Thrones, where you always seem to identify with might is right. You should know we really don't care about "democracy", after all, look at our "allies" in the region. There is no way the military would have executed this coup unless they were given the green light. We love "democracy" when the right leaders are elected, but "revolution" we call it when they are not. When the people rose in Lybia, we were on it. When they rose in Syria, we were not. Why? Try getting your info in other places instead exclusively from Fox buddy.
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Those are two good questions; let me know when you find out the answer. I didn't say that military coups are a legit mechanism for democratic reform. My point is that the Egyptian people are impatient after waiting so long and sacrificing so much to get Democracy and they're not so naive as to not recognize what was happening, and they had every reason to believe (based on what has happened in identical circumstances all over the world) that if they waited too long to act - it would be too late. Remember - we had to fight and kill many British to win our right to select our own government. Revolution is messy.
Frankly - I do wish that people had come out in the streets of the major cities and protested till Bush Jr was thrown out of office. He came in not via a military coup - but by ballot box finagling and gerrymandering - both of which are every bit as unethical and un-democratic as a coup.
Those are two good questions; let me know when you find out the answer. I didn't say that military coups are a legit mechanism for democratic reform. My point is that the Egyptian people are impatient after waiting so long and sacrificing so much to get Democracy and they're not so naive as to not recognize what was happening, and they had every reason to believe (based on what has happened in identical circumstances all over the world) that if they waited too long to act - it would be too late. Remember - we had to fight and kill many British to win our right to select our own government. Revolution is messy.
Frankly - I do wish that people had come out in the streets of the major cities and protested till Bush Jr was thrown out of office. He came in not via a military coup - but by ballot box finagling and gerrymandering - both of which are every bit as unethical and un-democratic as a coup.
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Libya is a much smaller country and the overthrow of Gaddafi was pretty easy. The reason we're not "in" Syria, is that A. the USA is broke from the last two wars. and B. Because Obama doesn't want to go head-to-head with Putin, who supports the Assad regime because they supply Russia with cheap oil. The war in Syria is not over yet. So it's premature to imply their efforts are for naught. Historically - the dynamic in Syria is more parallel to the ousting of the Shah of Iran, who was one of the worst tyrants in the Middle East, but of course he was just replaced by the Ayatollah with the blackened eyes.
In all events... it's unlikely that the new govt, assuming they throw out Assad, will be particularly more friendly to the USA. They are not fighting for Democracy. They just want Assad out and being religiously orthodox there's no real reason for the US to be involved as they are not likely to be particularly friendly to US interests - especially as any assistance they may yet gain - will be considered too little too late. It's a lose-lose situation. The two situations are not comparable.
Libya is a much smaller country and the overthrow of Gaddafi was pretty easy. The reason we're not "in" Syria, is that A. the USA is broke from the last two wars. and B. Because Obama doesn't want to go head-to-head with Putin, who supports the Assad regime because they supply Russia with cheap oil. The war in Syria is not over yet. So it's premature to imply their efforts are for naught. Historically - the dynamic in Syria is more parallel to the ousting of the Shah of Iran, who was one of the worst tyrants in the Middle East, but of course he was just replaced by the Ayatollah with the blackened eyes.
In all events... it's unlikely that the new govt, assuming they throw out Assad, will be particularly more friendly to the USA. They are not fighting for Democracy. They just want Assad out and being religiously orthodox there's no real reason for the US to be involved as they are not likely to be particularly friendly to US interests - especially as any assistance they may yet gain - will be considered too little too late. It's a lose-lose situation. The two situations are not comparable.
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Point taken. I didn't however say they created the oil, only that they supply it or act as the conduit as it were. Regardless, the dynamic remains the same. Obama's relationship with Putin is tenuous at best and Putin strongly supports Assad firstly for the oil that comes via Syria, and secondly because he and Assad are fellow members of the Ethics-Free Strongman Club.
Point taken. I didn't however say they created the oil, only that they supply it or act as the conduit as it were. Regardless, the dynamic remains the same. Obama's relationship with Putin is tenuous at best and Putin strongly supports Assad firstly for the oil that comes via Syria, and secondly because he and Assad are fellow members of the Ethics-Free Strongman Club.
Casey Stoner Tax Update!!!
So apparently, the Australian tax year runs July to July, and because Stoner was still technically living in Switzerland at the start of the past tax year, he couldn't spend too much time in Australia. Now that a new tax year has started, he can spend much more time in Australia, as he is now officially resident there. I wonder if that will improve his mood? I suspect it will.
In other related news, a French magazine is making a serious effort to arrange for Stoner to do some demo laps on Doohan's 500cc two-stroke at PI this year. Whether they'll be successful or not remains to be seen, but it would be very cool.
So apparently, the Australian tax year runs July to July, and because Stoner was still technically living in Switzerland at the start of the past tax year, he couldn't spend too much time in Australia. Now that a new tax year has started, he can spend much more time in Australia, as he is now officially resident there. I wonder if that will improve his mood? I suspect it will.
In other related news, a French magazine is making a serious effort to arrange for Stoner to do some demo laps on Doohan's 500cc two-stroke at PI this year. Whether they'll be successful or not remains to be seen, but it would be very cool.
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I hope he bins it on Sulker Stoner conrner and gets ... ..... by the tax man :lol:
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