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So Who is your money on to be the 2016 champion?

I predict Danilo Petrucci will win the championship by at least 75 points with Maverick Vinalez in second and Scott Redding in third.

Lorenzo and Marquez will not finish the season because they will be murdered by an insane Rossi fan who blames them for 2015.

Rossi will miss several races because he will be called as a material witness in the fan's trial. Rossi will not be charged with any crime himself, but by the time he will be able to return to the championship, he will have missed a significant number of races and won't have a chance to catch up to Petrucci on points.

Pedrosa will be injured after the third race of the year when he is taking a walk in the park and an acorn falls from a tree and lands on his collarbone, fracturing it in several places and requiring him to have 17 surgeries.

In a very unexpected twist, Uccio will take Rossi's place on the factory Yamaha while Rossi is busy with the trial. Though he will not be able to finish in the points in any race, his chubby appearance in race leathers will cause him to become hugely popular in Eastern Europe, and he will be given the opportunity to host a comedy-oriented sports show in Romania called "Uccio Vroom Vroom."
 
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Want to win - Rossi

Think will win - Lorenzo ... he's just too smooth.

Or ... Marquez - Depends on if he can still slide the rear around and not crash.

But in all Honesty, what are our other choices at the moment? Who has the consistency besides these 3? Or 4 if you want to count Pedrosa?

TITLE CHANCES GROUP:
MARQUEZ
LORENZO
ROSSI
PEDROSA

Then there's the "OTHERS" Group

Don't get me wrong .. I would LOVE to see more battling for the title but I just don't see it with the factory machine differences. I think every rider HAS the talent ... just not the tech to help them out as much as the others.

One note : Karl Abraham in my opinion should NOT have a place on that grid .... just sayin
 
Canada said:
Want to win - Rossi

Think will win - Lorenzo ... he's just too smooth.

Or ... Marquez - Depends on if he can still slide the rear around and not crash.

But in all Honesty, what are our other choices at the moment? Who has the consistency besides these 3? Or 4 if you want to count Pedrosa?

TITLE CHANCES GROUP:
MARQUEZ
LORENZO
ROSSI
PEDROSA

Then there's the "OTHERS" Group

Don't get me wrong .. I would LOVE to see more battling for the title but I just don't see it with the factory machine differences. I think every rider HAS the talent ... just not the tech to help them out as much as the others.

One note : Karl Abraham in my opinion should NOT have a place on that grid .... just sayin
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Well...Karel Abraham is in Wsbk now. But I find it interesting that you listed the only four possible contenders (there's a message there), while seemingly acknowledging the parity picture; but you singled out Karel Abraham as not worthy? What about say...Cal Crutchlow? Take a look at both their rookie seasons. Then take into account Abraham was on a 3rd tier Ducati while Crutchlow on a sorted M1 (factory spec from the onset). In your mind's eye, can you imagine Abraham following the trajectory of Crutchlow, riding a M1 then RCV, while you can see what Cal was like on the Ducati (absolute disaster). Would you be saying, Cal Crutchlow has no place on a GP grid had he started on a 3rd tier Ducati then on to a 3rd tier Honda "production racer"? I ask of course for the sake of debate based on the logic of results correlated to parity.
 
I will wait till testing is over. Way to many unknowns at this point.
Marquez will be favorite every year for the foreseeable future, but the bikes these days are so close, all it takes is a minor flaw in design or characteristics of tires to tilt advantage one way or the other. I think Marquez has learned that 20 or 16 is better than zero, something that kept Rossi in the points lead till the last race.
 
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Jumkie said:
Well...Karel Abraham is in Wsbk now. But I find it interesting that you listed the only four possible contenders (there's a message there), while seemingly acknowledging the parity picture; but you singled out Karel Abraham as not worthy? What about say...Cal Crutchlow? Take a look at both their rookie seasons. Then take into account Abraham was on a 3rd tier Ducati while Crutchlow on a sorted M1 (factory spec from the onset). In your mind's eye, can you imagine Abraham following the trajectory of Crutchlow, riding a M1 then RCV, while you can see what Cal was like on the Ducati (absolute disaster). Would you be saying, Cal Crutchlow has no place on a GP grid had he started on a 3rd tier Ducati then on to a 3rd tier Honda "production racer"? I ask of course for the sake of debate based on the logic of results correlated to parity.
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There is a message there in the four possible contenders and im glad the new tech rules will hopefully balance this out more.

I was harsh saying "Not worthy" I apologize for that ... but I singled out Karl because I didn't see any type of results that would substantiate him as being a contender for the amount of time in that class. In his career, he has 1 Moto2 win to his name, 2 podiums since 2005. The fact that his father pretty much "Bought" his way into the Motogp class helps with my notion of saying he should not of been there. Why he even moved up to the 250cc class when he did is beyond me as well.

Im happy that he is going to WSBK as i think it better suites him.

As for Cal and Karel .... Cal has a track record that surpasses Karels on every level. I believe Karel would have the same results on either machine.
 
Canada said:
There is a message there in the four possible contenders and im glad the new tech rules will hopefully balance this out more.

I was harsh saying "Not worthy" I apologize for that ... but I singled out Karl because I didn't see any type of results that would substantiate him as being a contender for the amount of time in that class. In his career, he has 1 Moto2 win to his name, 2 podiums since 2005. The fact that his father pretty much "Bought" his way into the Motogp class helps with my notion of saying he should not of been there. Why he even moved up to the 250cc class when he did is beyond me as well.

Im happy that he is going to WSBK as i think it better suites him.

As for Cal and Karel .... Cal has a track record that surpasses Karels on every level. I believe Karel would have the same results on either machine.
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Interesting. Oh and no need for apologies, I was just asking for the sake of fun debate. Btw it takes a bit of skin thickness to play on this forum, as it can be a harsh environment, but also exceedingly fun and entertaining, sometimes even informative.

I'll have to disagree, I think either rider came in with a comparable profile. Cal had two home wins in Wsbk, not exactly earth shattering. Karel had a Moto2 win. As far as I know Daddy was not riding Jr.'s bike. Most riders bring money to teams, or some kind of value, Cal likely benefited from the League's need to have a Brit as much as Abraham Sr. Put in financially. I think it's a misplaced notion that because you're parent has money that it means the kid can't ride. None of these guys come from poor background, so it's a question of magnitude.

Take a look at Crutchlow 's stint at 'factory' (no less) Ducati. You're gonna tell me had he come in as a rookie on a 3rd tier Ducati (when it was complete ....) that Crutchlow would have had noteworthy results? Then from a 3rd tier Ducati to a 3rd tier Honda? Cal Crutchlow quit from a two year contract on a Factory Ducati because it was a disaster. Exactly what kind of results do you think Crutchlow would have succeeded in achieving based on Abraham 's machine tenure in MotoGP?
 
kurre said:
I predict Danilo Petrucci will win the championship by at least 75 points with Maverick Vinalez in second and Scott Redding in third.

Lorenzo and Marquez will not finish the season because they will be murdered by an insane Rossi fan who blames them for 2015.

Rossi will miss several races because he will be called as a material witness in the fan's trial. Rossi will not be charged with any crime himself, but by the time he will be able to return to the championship, he will have missed a significant number of races and won't have a chance to catch up to Petrucci on points.

Pedrosa will be injured after the third race of the year when he is taking a walk in the park and an acorn falls from a tree and lands on his collarbone, fracturing it in several places and requiring him to have 17 surgeries.

In a very unexpected twist, Uccio will take Rossi's place on the factory Yamaha while Rossi is busy with the trial. Though he will not be able to finish in the points in any race, his chubby appearance in race leathers will cause him to become hugely popular in Eastern Europe, and he will be given the opportunity to host a comedy-oriented sports show in Romania called "Uccio Vroom Vroom."
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Brilliant!
 
J4rn0 said:
Lorenzo is fast and brave, but he is so highly strung that he always makes some crucial mistakes. He typically wins the title when his rivals make even more crucial mistakes than him (2010-2012-2015).

Pedrosa, he always has some problem of some kind. I reckon that without problems, he'd be a favorite. But it's unlikely.

Rossi and Marquez: Rossi will be 37, and Marquez will probably have trouble adapting to the Michelin front. On top of that, these two will race mostly against each other, possibly neutralizing each other.

But if the Honda is sorted and he adapts to the Michelin quickly (2 big "if's"), Marquez will win the title hands down.

In this situation, if his shouder behaves and if the Ducati is as competitive as it can be, (again 2 big "if's", I know) Andrea Iannone could surprise everybody.

And, if the Suzuki makes another big step, Maverick Vinales could also become a credible title contender.

Dovi, I'd like him to be in the fight as well, but his record says otherwise.
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WVMotoGP99 said:
Will come down to a tight race, (not as close as 2015), between George and Marky Mark.

Marky Mark will push to hard one or two races to many and George takes his 4th.

Not sure MM has it in him to not race with the "win it or wreck it" attitude if his bike isn't on.
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JPSLotus said:
MM has it in him. He showed it the second half of 2015.

The question is more whether he will continue that approach as he had far more success with it, than without it.
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Marquez was so dominant in his first two seasons. No reason to think he'll ride next year, as he did the first half of 2015. Long as Honda don't "improve" the chassis or screw up the power delivery and the chassis gels with the Michelins, my money is on Marquez.

IMHO - I don't think Honda will repeat the chassis mistakes that held Marquez back at the beginning of the year. Moveover, Marquez is a more seasoned rider now, and has had lot of time to learn Lorenzo's strengths and weaknesses - right up close.
 
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It remains the bike on which Stoner had his best season... like it or not... :p
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Not predicting when... but another alien will come along and ride the much improved Ducati to the top step of the podium. It's only a matter of time.
 
Keshav said:
Marquez was so dominant in his first two seasons. No reason to think he'll ride next year, as he did the first half of 2015. Long as Honda don't "improve" the chassis or screw up the power delivery and the chassis gels with the Michelins, my money is on Marquez.

IMHO - I don't think Honda will repeat the chassis mistakes that held Marquez back at the beginning of the year. Moveover, Marquez is a more seasoned rider now, and has had lot of time to learn Lorenzo's strengths and weaknesses - right up close.
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You don't read Krop's site? HRC is having power delivery problems. All the riders have complained. HRC claims they're having a hard time addressing the complaints.
 

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