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Simoncelli

It's just occurred to me that Simoncelli would be ideal at Ducati right now - Preziosi and company could then go back to not blaming the bike for poor results.
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I do think that he will come good though, and I hope he stays in MotoGP to do so. But right now, more than patiently getting it together and enjoying a successful career in this sport, I expect he's worried about his ride - the Honda is looking very good for next year and he'll be kicking himself for putting a possible factory ride—or at least one of the top satellite rides—at risk like this. I often wonder what senior management at Honda think of him and his antics.



Right now his situation reminds me of those terrible golf movies where the star gets the yips and nothing goes right, try as they might nothing seems to get them out of the rut, and everything around them turns to poo. Who'd have thought Simoncelli would ever resemble a bad golf movie?





well, i don`t agree, and let`s think. if he bins the honda, which is quite a good handling machine, just imagine what he will do on a slippery front duke. the bill for repairs will compete with the budget for r&d department.
 
well, i don`t agree, and let`s think. if he bins the honda, which is quite a good handling machine, just imagine what he will do on a slippery front duke. the bill for repairs will compete with the budget for r&d department.

good point



but you also have to consider that what ducati needs most of all at the moment is a supremely talented rider that is willing to take the risk,just like stoner.

sic will never be in the same league as stoner and pedrosa so he'd be better off on another bike i guess...as long as the duc is not really sorted out and hayden/rossi understandably don't push it 100% sic could very well be the fastest duc of the grid ..until his body is battered, which really is inevitable given his crash ratio....



and by the way: win it or bin it? i haven't seen simoncelli even on the podium...its rather P5 or bin it....lame
 
at motogp level he aint ever winning a WC with his rash rate. yes its his second year in motogp, but the guys always been a crasher even in his lower class years.



with 3 riders competing for the WC, and anyone of them can win on there given day, one can only afford 1 DNF (possibly 2) per season to be truly competitive, and i cant see simoncelli being able to acheive that.
 
well, i don`t agree, and let`s think. if he bins the honda, which is quite a good handling machine, just imagine what he will do on a slippery front duke. the bill for repairs will compete with the budget for r&d department.

I was joking. The little smiling guy was a clue, but I guess I can it out a bit more: with him binning it every week Ducati could blame their results on Simo rather than the bike. I'm not suggesting anybody would really benefit from him being on a Duc. Obviously he'd be a bloody menace, albeit for a different set of riders.
 
I am coming around towards feeling sympathetic towards the guy. I think he is totally lost now and does not know what to do. He has natural speed and did learn not to crash 250s, as his championship demonstrates. The dani incident was very unfortunate for him as well as dani, even apart from pissing off hrc's major sponsor, and presumably hrc, he looked a definite for his first podium, and probably second rather than third. This may have completely changed his whole future career.
 
I am coming around towards feeling sympathetic towards the guy. I think he is totally lost now and does not know what to do. He has natural speed and did learn not to crash 250s, as his championship demonstrates. The dani incident was very unfortunate for him as well as dani, even apart from pissing off hrc's major sponsor, and presumably hrc, he looked a definite for his first podium, and probably second rather than third. This may have completely changed his whole future career.

And if it does, he is the one to blame. If you dont learn from your mistakes, your showing an inability to think things through. Not a good combination when you ride multi million dollar machines at 200 mph. How long would a fighter pilot last if he crashed his F22 Raptor every other time he took flight.
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I am coming around towards feeling sympathetic towards the guy. I think he is totally lost now and does not know what to do. He has natural speed and did learn not to crash 250s, as his championship demonstrates. The dani incident was very unfortunate for him as well as dani, even apart from pissing off hrc's major sponsor, and presumably hrc, he looked a definite for his first podium, and probably second rather than third. This may have completely changed his whole future career.



But the Pedrosa incident was merely symptomatic. He'd already crashed out of the two previous races for no good reason other than sheer stupidity. I don't think it changed his career, I think it was just another typical stop along the way.



Once again, the boy is fast. But he displays an abject refusal to understand and to learn.
 
But the Pedrosa incident was merely symptomatic. He'd already crashed out of the two previous races for no good reason other than sheer stupidity. I don't think it changed his career, I think it was just another typical stop along the way.



Once again, the boy is fast. But he displays an abject refusal to understand and to learn.

As we have discussed, an incident like the one with dani (to which I personally think dani made a significant contribution) is in isolation a racing incident, but 5 or 6 or whatever offs is a habit and obviously calls his judgement into question.



I think he is now in a situation where he is uncertain about his future, doesn't know whether to push or ride conservatively (which he does not do well anyway) and may no longer have the top spec bike, or the top spec engine mapping anyway. Without the dani incident he would have had his first podium and this would certainly have changed how he was perceived and may have altered his whole approach ; admittedly it may not have as well
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. Dani in that incident was possibly also motivated by factors other than the immediate race situation , such as maintaining his status against stoner and marco etc, because I don't think he was particularly judicious either, and marco clearly had him unless he ran out of tyres or fuel later in the race.
 
As we have discussed, an incident like the one with dani (to which I personally think dani made a significant contribution) is in isolation a racing incident, but 5 or 6 or whatever offs is a habit and obviously calls his judgement into question.



I think he is now in a situation where he is uncertain about his future, doesn't know whether to push or ride conservatively (which he does not do well anyway) and may no longer have the top spec bike, or the top spec engine mapping anyway. Without the dani incident he would have had his first podium and this would certainly have changed how he was perceived and may have altered his whole approach ; admittedly it may not have as well
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. Dani in that incident was possibly also motivated by factors other than the immediate race situation , such as maintaining his status against stoner and marco etc, because I don't think he was particularly judicious either, and marco clearly had him unless he ran out of tyres or fuel later in the race.



Simoncelli was leading at Jerez. He had a 2.6 second lead which was growing. And he tossed it away. Le Mans was just another instance of incredibly poor racecraft by Simoncelli. Something he has shown continually throughout his career. Le Mans might have been the turning point if it was an incident in isolation, but Simoncelli has had 5 race crashes out of 10 race starts. Even the most ardent supporter must admit there would appear to be a pattern forming.
 
good point



but you also have to consider that what ducati needs most of all at the moment is a supremely talented rider that is willing to take the risk,just like stoner.

sic will never be in the same league as stoner and pedrosa so he'd be better off on another bike i guess...as long as the duc is not really sorted out and hayden/rossi understandably don't push it 100% sic could very well be the fastest duc of the grid ..until his body is battered, which really is inevitable given his crash ratio....



and by the way: win it or bin it? i haven't seen simoncelli even on the podium...its rather P5 or bin it....lame





You done smoke yourself stupid son. I rate Simoncelli higher then Midget Pedrosa.



He is a front-runner for sure, just needs to get his mojo back.



And eff that midget Pedrosa..... the crash him and Simoncelli was in was Dani's fault as far as I'm concern.
 
You done smoke yourself stupid son. I rate Simoncelli higher then Midget Pedrosa.



He is a front-runner for sure, just needs to get his mojo back.



Pedrosa has 14 MotoGP victories and 52 podiums in total. Marco Simoncelli has a big fat zero on both accounts. Fast? Yes. Dumber than fourth generation truant? Unfortunately.



Prediction: Marco Simoncelli will get a couple of podiums in his (short) MotoGP career. He will never win a race.
 
Simo's got a lot of talent, I think he makes MotoGP more interesting...Simo on a Duc....good lord the spare parts guys would never get any sleep.

Krop...if he doesn't make it in MotoGP....how does he fare in WSBK? I think we saw in his wild card appearence he can ride the production bikes very well.
 
I think Simoncelli has shown enough speed that he may win a race. A title is another matter.



He shows speed for 1 maybe 2 laps, and for the other 25?



I dare say if some of the other riders were unhindered by the constraints of intelligence, they would make Marcos fast laps look mediocre.



Marco is fast by "bravado" ..... not skill.



As a racer, all those riding on "bravado" represent, is early lap wreckage/flotsam/jetsom.



If Marco drops the bravado and works on his skill, he may get closer. But I doubt he can. I still like the guy though, something tells me he'd be a great mate/buddy.
 
You done smoke yourself stupid son.

is that supposed to be a sentence?





i thought you should touch yourself when you see dani since you hate nicky so much



everybody who still hates dani and doesn't recognize the effort he puts in and his recent accomplishments isn't really the most clever,neutral fan....
 
Pedrosa has 14 MotoGP victories and 52 podiums in total. Marco Simoncelli has a big fat zero on both accounts. Fast? Yes. Dumber than fourth generation truant? Unfortunately.



Prediction: Marco Simoncelli will get a couple of podiums in his (short) MotoGP career. He will never win a race.



Well Aprilla are looking for riders in WSBK
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Well Aprilla are looking for riders in WSBK
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I think Simoncelli would be brilliiant in WSBK. I think he'd be a champ there. You can get away with boneheaded mistakes in that championship. And there are no fuel restrictions and the bikes are heavier. Would be a much better place for him.
 
I think Simoncelli would be brilliiant in WSBK. I think he'd be a champ there. You can get away with boneheaded mistakes in that championship. And there are no fuel restrictions and the bikes are heavier. Would be a much better place for him.



with his upbringing in racing i'd be very surprised if he made the switch any time soon
 

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