This despite most of the top riders saying that the 1000s are pretty much exactly the same in handling and power as the 800s, just a bit more torque?
You can tell from the results how much better the 200ccs is working out on the Desmo.
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This despite most of the top riders saying that the 1000s are pretty much exactly the same in handling and power as the 800s, just a bit more torque?
You can tell from the results how much better the 200ccs is working out on the Desmo.
Say what?
A rookie on a satellite bike with a team in their first year in MotoGP on customer tyres 'couldn't ride' on them?
I would say it was more a case of over-rode them.
I wonder if he would have binned it as often if he had the same choice of rubber and technical expertise as Rossi?
Over the same period:
Stoner - 23 wins, 42 podiums, 21 poles, 20 fastest laps.
Yeah, talent that seems to be lacking in Hayden.
Even if I extend it to the more years he spent at Honda than just the last 3 with Ducati, his results are worse than a single Stoner, Pedrosa or Lorenzo season, apart from podiums - he has averaged 2.5 a season...
Sorry, I just don't see how criticism of him is any different to that of any other rider. It seems that Bradley Smith is the subject of some negativity regarding his form on the Tech 3, Hayden has six years of bad form... but criticism is unfounded?
IMO he's past it. Even given a factory Yamaha or Honda he would be struggling to hang with the top 4. Even at the top of his game he wasn't that good, and now age is catching up with him as well.
In his entire GP career he has amassed 3 wins. That's in 11 years in the paddock (come the end of the season - unless I am being previous and he is going to magic a win out of his arse before the end of the year?). Approbation is heaped on other riders with similar figures but for some reason Hayden is off limits?
Nah - his criticism is deserved. While he has had team-mates tearing up the track on the same equipment he has bumbled about in mid-field. 8, 6, 13, 7, 8 his his last five championship placings... nothing there that demands I cut him any more slack than the rest of the riders not doing their pedigree any justice. After all, as we are so often reminded, he is a world champion. He barely scraped ahead of Edwards last year... not the form we expect from world champions on factory bikes.
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Oh dear oh dear, seems your blind hatred of Rossi fans has got in the way of your ability to understand facts. Do you seriously think that Stoner an Lorenzo didn't come to motogp aiming to beat the most successful rider of the modern era? You can't ignore what really happened in the history of the sport, even if it doesn't fit in with your opinion . Fail.
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Well best change the thread title to "Silverstone MotoGP Race: Spoilers!"
Perhaps there needs to be a 'rules' thread - because forums are ever so static and everybody goes back and reads every old post, don't they?
.... me but I've never been to a more unwelcoming forum as this one... rules for everything, except those with post counts in their thousands.
It would be interesting to compare the number of accounts with the number of regular posters... I now remember why it was I didn't post for a year.
Ignore Rog.s crap. If he really didn't want to know scores/results etc. he would stay away from the internet.
Its all just more "look at me I'm the most important person in the world, so you have to pander to my sooking"
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And you don't think that moving up to race against a dominant rider like Rossi was at that point would have inspired them to beat him? Come on mate, you know as well as I do that they would be focused on taking that title from him.
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just like in any sport. to be the man you've got to beat the man
to be honest i don't see whats the big deal here?
to be honest i don't see whats the big deal here?
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They would have needed great levels of inspiration as kids long before racing against Rossi to become what they are today. The desire for many hours of practice and inspiration must ultimately come from within.
Many influences inspired me to pick up a guitar. They didnt make me any good at it though.
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I would suggest to you that it is no longer the days of Gibbers, Capi and Biaggi being the best Rossi had to overcome,
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Well best change the thread title to "Silverstone MotoGP Race: Spoilers!"
Perhaps there needs to be a 'rules' thread - because forums are ever so static and everybody goes back and reads every old post, don't they?
.... me but I've never been to a more unwelcoming forum as this one... rules for everything, except those with post counts in their thousands.
It would be interesting to compare the number of accounts with the number of regular posters... I now remember why it was I didn't post for a year.
Stand up straight like a man for .... sake ! You ...... up, got pulled up. it's not a real big deal just learn from your mistake. Members with there posts in the thousands don't post spoilers in the wrong thread generally and if they did they would also be pulled up on it.
Its called RESPECT for other members. This an international forum and races are aired at different times around the globe. Why should these members have to stay off the site because others cant be bothered to post in the correct sections? It's not asking to much ffs.
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So folk have to pussyfoot around the primadonnas like you Rog. ? Must make you feel special.
Stay off the net, if you don't want to hear stuff.
What happens if you hear the TV or Radio? Let me guess ........ you don't have them on? .......... do the same with the net and let the rest of the world get on with current life without the censorship of pandering to your foible!
Stay off the net, if you don't want to hear stuff.
What happens if you hear the TV or Radio? Let me guess ........ you don't have them on? .......... do the same with the net and let the rest of the world get on with current life without the censorship of pandering to your foible!
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Well best change the thread title to "Silverstone MotoGP Race: Spoilers!"
Perhaps there needs to be a 'rules' thread - because forums are ever so static and everybody goes back and reads every old post, don't they?
.... me but I've never been to a more unwelcoming forum as this one... rules for everything, except those with post counts in their thousands.
It would be interesting to compare the number of accounts with the number of regular posters... I now remember why it was I didn't post for a year.
Oh do stop whining. The rules are based on common sense everyday courtesy extended to one and all on any sports related forum.
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So folk have to pussyfoot around the primadonnas like you Rog. ? Must make you feel special.
Stay off the net, if you don't want to hear stuff.
What happens if you hear the TV or Radio? Let me guess ........ you don't have them on? .......... do the same with the net and let the rest of the world get on with current life without the censorship of pandering to your foible!
It's not censorship you gimp. There is a moto2 and 3 forum. Who the .... are you to tell other members to keep away?
How selfish some of you are !
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What a world you live in Pete! ........ you must actually believe Rossi is the title
I would suggest to you that it is no longer the days of Gibbers, Capi and Biaggi being the best Rossi had to overcome,
Aw bless Barry, you know me an Arrab were speaking about you very fondly at the weekend. Like me, Arrab thinks you are a genius instrument maker, who comes on here and acts like a total numb nut for a laugh, and for that wee greatly admire you buddy.
Bet that has really made your day my fellow Scottish friend.
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Nice jingoistic Rossi-is-the-center-of-the-universe fan-boi logic. If it ain't Rossi it's crap.
I'm a huge admirer of Roberts, Rainey, Schwantz, Lawson and Spencer but the sun don't shine out of any of their ......... Great riders are
inherently talented. They don't draw their ability from others. It comes from within. If Rossi never existed Lorenzo and Stoner would have still
been great champions.
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Can you actually read? I've given props to Stoner in this thread, and make no secret of my admiration of Lorenzo (I always maintained that he would have won the 2010 title whether or not Rossi was injured) and Crutchlow. Just as when I was a Doohan fan I was a huge fan of Cadalora, MacKenzie and Abe. That's your Rossicentric arguement blown out of the water right there. If you can't understand that, then just don't read my posts, because to be brutally honest, you obviously have no comprehension of the term tongue in cheek.
Save yourself a shitload o hassle and just read posts that say Stoner is amazing o Rossi never actually won any titles.
You could perhaps explain this to your mate chopperman, along with explaining what spite is, and how it is seldom if ever displayed by barry unlike some others.
I did say such michelins as were made available, and have referred to them as being remainder bin michelins in other posts.
No doubt the michelin front was a problem for him in 2006, not least by his own account after he was no longer under contract to them. He obviously never had the opportunity to do so, but he has never demonstrated he could have ridden a different 2006 michelin front better, and the tyre that suited rossi, pedrosa, melandri etc then may not necessarily have suited him on current evidence.
