Should Ducati sack Hayden?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johnny @ May 2 2009, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Jumkie another of the cretins alais to add to the list
I misread the name, thought it said #27anus, I think that would have suited Pinky more.

This topic gains weight every weekend.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ May 3 2009, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This topic gains weight every weekend.



takahashi destroyed hayden today. nice slap in the face of haydens fanboys.

Apart from Stoners pit.....Fire ALL the engineers, mechanics, and tuners in the Ducati teams.... simple as that... too many good riders have been on those bikes... and they've all sucked??
no way...dont add up...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#27aus @ May 2 2009, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>who cares.. his fault... and he had a factory bike unlike dovi & dovi was a rookie.
welcome ............. now go away.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#27aus @ May 2 2009, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>who cares.. his fault... and he had a factory bike unlike dovi & dovi was a rookie.
Hello pinky.

why the hell this thread is still rolling???????????????

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ May 3 2009, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>why the hell this thread is still rolling???????????????

Because an ex world champion struggling to score points gets people talking.

hmmm,I`m gonna retract my Nicky has had his day,after reading through this..........as always ,too hasty.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 3 2009, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hello pinky.




dam rog u got a tracking device fitted to pinky... keep up the good work bro another alias for my ignore button.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ May 3 2009, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Apart from Stoners pit.....Fire ALL the engineers, mechanics, and tuners in the Ducati teams.... simple as that... too many good riders have been on those bikes... and they've all sucked??
no way...dont add up...

I'm starting to feel the same way. I just can't believe that Capi, Marco and Hayden are all that bad. Stoner is super human, we've established that but these other guys are very reasonable riders. Something is seriously wrong at Ducati. If Hayden leaves at the end of the season I can't imagine that there's gonna be guys lining up to climb aboard the Duc. That bike's turning out to be a career killer!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ May 3 2009, 11:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Apart from Stoners pit.....Fire ALL the engineers, mechanics, and tuners in the Ducati teams.... simple as that... too many good riders have been on those bikes... and they've all sucked??
no way...dont add up...


hahaha. told ya so. ducati have put themselven in a ......... everyone now blaming the ducati is a peice of ..... and stoner only having the dencet equipment and engineers and the bike designed only for casey. hahahha.

ducati will lose more credibility than gain by signining hayden. and i am being proove 100% right.

whether it is ducatis fault or haydens fault that the ducati isnt fast, well not sure, but u can be sure they are trying hard as hell to get hayden fast.

but remember a 37year old retired and unfit ex racer is faster than hayden who should be in his prime at 27 years of age.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRILL @ May 3 2009, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hmmm,I`m gonna retract my Nicky has had his day,after reading through this..........as always ,too hasty.
People always jump to conclusions way to fast. This thread is a perfect example. My question would be as follows: If Nicky had ample time to work on the bike FREE from his injuries would he be in a better position? I have to say yes. Due to the fact that no one does more laps and pushes himself as he does. I believe that if he had his chance to really get down to business he would be ok or at least in a better place. Bad luck is on his side right now. I would expect someone to talk about Dani and his injuries but he knows that bike way better than Hayden knows or understands his right now. So I think after you see a few races go by without him getting wrecked into or trying to recover from painful injuries we can see really where they guy stands on the DUC. WHo knows but I think the Kid is a badass and just needs some room to prove his point a bit.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ May 3 2009, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hahaha. told ya so. ducati have put themselven in a ......... everyone now blaming the ducati is a peice of ..... and stoner only having the dencet equipment and engineers and the bike designed only for casey. hahahha.

ducati will lose more credibility than gain by signining hayden. and i am being proove 100% right.

whether it is ducatis fault or haydens fault that the ducati isnt fast, well not sure, but u can be sure they are trying hard as hell to get hayden fast.

but remember a 37year old retired and unfit ex racer is faster than hayden who should be in his prime at 27 years of age.
HAyden just got rammed by some ........ so give it a rest. He needs some time to get healed to focus on the bike better. Everyone else is mostly a rookie on that bike. EVen Sete for the most part but he did actually test the thing to last year. Some people are just ...... dumb.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (levigarrett @ May 4 2009, 06:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>....... That bike's turning out to be a career killer!
Ducat <strike>Corse</strike> Curse

hmm seems like Hayden struggling with the Duc like Melandri but who knows let's see until Assen i would say.

Ducati curse :S well who know maybe, but Loris actually got 3 podiums in 2007 1 win and mostly finished 6 7 and 8, altough with 4 or 5 rets :S

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ May 4 2009, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ducat <strike>Corse</strike> Curse




+1 I'm all for Ducati but this bike is a serious problem.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KurtC @ May 4 2009, 12:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hmm seems like Hayden struggling with the Duc like Melandri but who knows let's see until Assen i would say.

Ducati curse :S well who know maybe, but Loris actually got 3 podiums in 2007 1 win and mostly finished 6 7 and 8, altough with 4 or 5 rets :S
Times were 2 seconds slower and ducati was the fastest bike back then.

If I remember correctly the old Ducati 990 handled like a farm wagon but it had hellish power. The new carbon frame hasn't helped if in fact Hayden actually has one. Hayden is a guy who needs time to sort out a bike. This bike is a tough nut to crack and Kallio had big problems today. I still hope he can finish top ten in France. Soon we're going to hear that guy swearing like a sailor at that bike. Hayden pissed off...first time for everything.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ May 4 2009, 03:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If I remember correctly the old Ducati 990 handled like a farm wagon but it had hellish power. The new carbon frame hasn't helped if in fact Hayden actually has one. Hayden is a guy who needs time to sort out a bike. This bike is a tough nut to crack and Kallio had big problems today. I still hope he can finish top ten in France. Soon we're going to hear that guy swearing like a sailor at that bike. Hayden pissed off...first time for everything.
I think the problem is rossi. The ducati started off looking more generally rideable, but once rossi and jb start to get the yamaha sorted the ducati seems to need to be balanced on a knife-edge to be competitive, and only stoner appears to be able to ride it when the set-up gets extreme.

As I have said before I think it is a real quandary for ducati, as they are unlikely to be able to build a conventional bike as good as the yamaha, and if they did manage this the question is then whether anyone could ride it as well as rossi. They are going to run out of riders for their other bikes fairly soon if current trends continue though. I agree de puniet looks a prospect for the bike, but if he continues his current level of performance he will have plenty of less risky options.