Sepang Test 1 Thread

[JohnnyKnockdown]

Interviewer: Do you every regret retiring after just two titles?

Stoner: "I’ve never regretted it. Never, not even for a second. Each year I’m happier than the last".

Oh, well.

Terrible news.
No reason to watch anymore.
Can someone please alert me when GP gets some talent and the racing get exciting again.

 

[RCV600RR]

So awkward when the test rider is faster than both factory riders.

 

[MdubSTYLIE]

So awkward when the test rider is faster than both factory riders.

Factory riders start testing the 28th. I'd wait til then before naming "the speed king" practice champion.

 

[Gaz]

No mention of the contenders yet.

That may well be because ALL of the contenders have not turned a wheel in anger up until this point in time.

Hard to discuss that which has not yet occurred.

 

[Gaz]

Factory riders start testing the 28th. I'd wait til then before naming "the speed king" practice champion.

Absolutely.

CS can be as fast as he wants.

He can place as much pressure as he wants on others with his performances.

But the facts remain that he chooses not to race and thus, his times need to be looked at as testing times without an end goal other than to go as fast as he bloody well can for the simple cause of finding issues with the equipment that he has been tasked to test.

The riders, well their aim is to make a race winning bike and thus their role and the way they approach it will likely be different.

Sure it is fun to look at the times and go 'not bad given the lay off', or 'if only', but we live in a real world and he is happy to not be involved in the big circus and needs to be looked at in that aspect.

 

[Jumkie]

That's quite amazing, given Casey Stoner is 5 years retired (give or take 1800 days) and he tops the time sheets in sketchy conditions, no wonder everybody is talking about it.

Can anybody think of someone who retired for 5 years, in any sport, particularly one where they can't just practice their craft readily, basically long swathes of time away from anything remotely similar, and have the mental focus, muscle memory, skill, and talent to show that they are still the top?

Consider how much the sport and machines, tires, electronics, components, suspension, etc. have changed in 5 years. Riders take an entire season, many rounds of practice and races to understand the nuances of a single element, much less all of them, and given Casey Stoner's frugal laps turned over his testing regimen, this really does indicate he is and remains the only "alien" as the term is used, in MotoGP.

Casey is just that 'mentally strong'. He had the mental strength and balls to flip the bird to the GPfarce infused in every element of the sport, that's admirable integrity, a characteristic rare in life, even less in ........ venture sport promoters masquerading as authentic competition. He turned down millions, didn’t sell-out his principles, and was still presented with the opportunity with top factories to test their state-of-the-art technology. He's happy, collecting a fat check, and with every lap time, a middle finger.

Edit to add: undoubtedly Casey Stoner has been vital to Ducati's improvement and development. Finding the limits, even when the factory riders have not reached it, is information that would otherwise be impossible to uncover.

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.

 

[MdubSTYLIE]

That's quite amazing, given Casey Stoner is 5 years retired (give or take 1800 days) and he tops the time sheets in sketchy conditions, no wonder everybody is talking about it.

Can anybody think of someone who retired for 5 years, in any sport, particularly one where they can't just practice their craft readily, basically long swathes of time away from anything remotely similar, and have the mental focus, muscle memory, skill, and talent to show that they are still the top?

Consider how much the sport and machines, tires, electronics, components, suspension, etc. have changed in 5 years. Riders take an entire season, many rounds of practice and races to understand the nuances of a single element, much less all of them, and given Casey Stoner's frugal laps turned over his testing regimen, this really does indicate he is and remains the only "alien" as the term is used, in MotoGP.

Casey is just that 'mentally strong'. He had the mental strength and balls to flip the bird to the GPfarce infused in every element of the sport, that's admirable integrity, a characteristic rare in life, even less in ........ venture sport promoters masquerading as authentic competition. He turned down millions, didn’t sell-out his principles, and was still presented with the opportunity with top factories to test their state-of-the-art technology. He's happy, collecting a fat check, and with every lap time, a middle finger.

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.

Bobby Fisher

 

[AntG]

Mike Hailwood did it, didn't race a bike for a decade, came back and kicked their arses at the IOM, then a week later did it again at a circuit race to prove it wasn't a fluke.

 

[Jumkie]

Bobby Fisher

Bobby 'Fisher', ah the irony.

Mike Hailwood did it, didn't race a bike for a decade, came back and kicked their arses at the IOM, then a week later did it again at a circuit race to prove it wasn't a fluke.

I'm perfectly content in comparing Casey Stoner to a 'mental genius' (Bobby Fishing) and tough, versatile Mr. Hailwood. It puts into perspective the class of elite that Stoner is associated.

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.

 

[RCV600RR]

That's quite amazing, given Casey Stoner is 5 years retired (give or take 1800 days) and he tops the time sheets in sketchy conditions, no wonder everybody is talking about it.

Can anybody think of someone who retired for 5 years, in any sport, particularly one where they can't just practice their craft readily, basically long swathes of time away from anything remotely similar, and have the mental focus, muscle memory, skill, and talent to show that they are still the top?

Consider how much the sport and machines, tires, electronics, components, suspension, etc. have changed in 5 years. Riders take an entire season, many rounds of practice and races to understand the nuances of a single element, much less all of them, and given Casey Stoner's frugal laps turned over his testing regimen, this really does indicate he is and remains the only "alien" as the term is used, in MotoGP.

Casey is just that 'mentally strong'. He had the mental strength and balls to flip the bird to the GPfarce infused in every element of the sport, that's admirable integrity, a characteristic rare in life, even less in ........ venture sport promoters masquerading as authentic competition. He turned down millions, didn’t sell-out his principles, and was still presented with the opportunity with top factories to test their state-of-the-art technology. He's happy, collecting a fat check, and with every lap time, a middle finger.

Edit to add: undoubtedly Casey Stoner has been vital to Ducati's improvement and development. Finding the limits, even when the factory riders have not reached it, is information that would otherwise be impossible to uncover.

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.

Good post. These bikes aren't CBR600s. They are a highly bespoke combination of electronics, chassis, suspension, tyres and engine that are extraordinarily delicate in terms of balance and difficulty to ride. That a bloke goes fishing and can smash out a lap like that after four turns of the circuit is difficult to understand.

 

[JohnnyKnockdown]

That's quite amazing, given Boners, after 5 years retired (give or take 1800 days) still top the-forum post counts in creepy idolic posts, no wonder real GP fans are tired of it.

Can anybody think of someone who for 5 years, in any walk of life, particularly one so lovestruck where they can't get ..... ever, basically long swathes of blue balls, from anything remotely similar than their hand, and have the obsession, fanaticism, monomaniacal infatuation with someone simply because he raced against someone they hate with unbridled fury.

Consider how much the sport and machines, tires, electronics, components, suspension, AND RIDERS have changed in 5 years. Riders that weren't even in GP when he retired are winning races now and competing for championships. Its so enjoyable watching a competitive season with new blood take an entire championship to competitive levels not seen in a decade. Stoner remains the only current GP rider who has not raced against what looks to be the greatest Alien in two decades

Boners are just that 'mentally ........ They have the mental retardation to make up stories about how the guy with the most, was somehow being slighted. Its quite comparable to MAGA's flipping the bird to the FBI, claiming anti bias infused in every element of the bureau, that's next level insanity, a characteristic unfortunately quite rife in life, even more so in fans desperate to explain how your mentally strong walking away from the greatest challenge of your life. Its great to see authentic passion amongst riders in current GP. He slithered away because thats what you do with no backbone. He dissapointed noone outside of Rossi haters and your occasional ...... down under. It would be nice to see you fools be happy with how good GP is so you would stop writing fat posts about, every practice lap time,thst means nothing.
Edit to add: undoubtedly Casey Stoner has been vital to the sales of zanax, amongst Boners. . For if theres an Alien to be found you fuckers are the GOAT Aliens of over sensitivity and anger

If you live in a gay house, please PM me your address.

Fixed it for you Jumqueen

 

[MdubSTYLIE]

Bobby 'Fisher', ah the irony.



I'm perfectly content in comparing Casey Stoner to a 'mental genius' (Bobby Fishing) and tough, versatile Mr. Hailwood. It puts into perspective the class of elite that Stoner is associated.

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.

Brah

He suffered from various illnesses and he died at the age of 64. He also suffered from mental illness related to paranoid schizophrenia, Asbergers, and possibly OCD. His paranoia was already well established in the 1972 Championship game against Boris Spassky who won the first game.

 

[RCV600RR]

Lol. To be clear, I've always admired Hayden first, Bayliss second, and Rossi third.

I just think Stoner has something special. You have to give credit where it's due. He may be retired, but he shows up now and again and does extraordinary things. It's hard not to admire it!

 

[michaelm]

Fixed it for you Jumqueen

Not a bad attempt at satire JK.

As is common however, you confuse cause and effect. The start of all this was unbridled hatred of Hayden and particularly Stoner for winning titles against the rider you mention, unless you are postulating that Jumkie was just pretending to be a Hayden fan. I was actually a Doohan fan before I was a Stoner fan and posted under that name on another forum, and had no dislike for Rossi himself (as opposed to an element among his fandom) prior to a certain press conference at Sepang in 2015, apart from being rather peeved for a few hours after he took Stoner out with that egregiously stupid move at Jerez 2011, and believe my posting history supports this contention.

(EDIT I had chosen not to post on this thread but am with Gaz, his testing times are irrelevant if there is no prospect of him competing/racing for real, although it is amusing as Jumkie says to see him basically being paid to flip the bird to many in the paddock).

 

[AntG]

Bobby 'Fisher', ah the irony.



I'm perfectly content in comparing Casey Stoner to a 'mental genius' (Bobby Fishing) and tough, versatile Mr. Hailwood. It puts into perspective the class of elite that Stoner is associated.

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.

Yeah but Mike didn't just do a few fast laps in a testing session he raced them and beat them.

 

[BarryMachine]

Hailwood was nowhere near the talent of Stoner. How can you even try to compare him? Its not just based on paper .... seeing Stoner ride shows he has something nobody else has.

 

[Gaz]

That's quite amazing, given Casey Stoner is 5 years retired (give or take 1800 days) and he tops the time sheets in sketchy conditions, no wonder everybody is talking about it.

Can anybody think of someone who retired for 5 years, in any sport, particularly one where they can't just practice their craft readily, basically long swathes of time away from anything remotely similar, and have the mental focus, muscle memory, skill, and talent to show that they are still the top?

Consider how much the sport and machines, tires, electronics, components, suspension, etc. have changed in 5 years. Riders take an entire season, many rounds of practice and races to understand the nuances of a single element, much less all of them, and given Casey Stoner's frugal laps turned over his testing regimen, this really does indicate he is and remains the only "alien" as the term is used, in MotoGP.

Casey is just that 'mentally strong'. He had the mental strength and balls to flip the bird to the GPfarce infused in every element of the sport, that's admirable integrity, a characteristic rare in life, even less in ........ venture sport promoters masquerading as authentic competition. He turned down millions, didn’t sell-out his principles, and was still presented with the opportunity with top factories to test their state-of-the-art technology. He's happy, collecting a fat check, and with every lap time, a middle finger.

Edit to add: undoubtedly Casey Stoner has been vital to Ducati's improvement and development. Finding the limits, even when the factory riders have not reached it, is information that would otherwise be impossible to uncover.

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.

Not sure if it was a full 5 years but Don Bradman in Cricket had his career interrupted by the war and continued to dominate after the war in much the same way as he had before the war.

Just in case you did not know of Bradman as cricket is not that great a known sport in the US but he was and remains considered the best batsman of all time with a test average (ie. runs scored per innings played) or 99.94 runs per innings (his average is nearly 39 runs higher than the next best who has scored 2000 test runs or more)

Nobody then or now comes close as today we consider a true great to be someone who averages over 50 and an exceptional great in the high 50 to low 60 range

 

[michaelm]

Yeah but Mike didn't just do a few fast laps in a testing session he raced them and beat them.

Hailwood (from what I have read rather than seen) and Eddie Lawson are the greatest riders imo if a choice is made to rank riders. Rossi’s failure to come to terms with the Ducati ranks him below those riders imo, both of whom could ride anything, in Lawson’s case including taming the brutal 80s Honda 500 and winning on a Cagiva.

 

[RCV600RR]

I also read that Hailwood's raw ability was his best asset.

 

[BarryMachine]

I allways felt that Hailwoods biggest asset was his ability to sell himself into a position to be competitive. Not to the degree rossi does, but he was no standout on bike skills.