ROSSI'S YELLOW FLAG

geeeezzz.... cry me a river HONDA.

Dean Adams is full of s%", what a load of sour grapes, nobody else who's articles I read has said anything like that. Only the guys on SOUP who must be pissing Hayden off cos they're so far up his arse!

Al, read closely, where it says "Honda and DUCATI". Last time I checked, Ducati didn't belong to Honda.

Except for that, I agree this matter is over, hopefully the FIM will draw the appropriate lessons from it for next time.

time to move on.

You're right, Frost, it is time to move on, but clearly Superbiasplanet.com dosent think so. Now, this is got nothing to do with the incident itself, I'm not passing judement because I haven't seen footage of it and I don't know the rule book back to front, but that article is clearly just more biased crap from Dean Adams. Even rational Hayden fans would agree to that.

Besides, everyone who's ever considered a motoGP conspiracy theory knows that the "Powers that be" in motoGP are the Evil Red Wing Corporation, not Yamaha or it's golden boy.

Lets see if people's opinions change if Rossi wins the championship by a point or something.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Oct 12 2006, 06:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Besides, everyone who's ever considered a motoGP conspiracy theory knows that the "Powers that be" in motoGP are the Evil Red Wing Corporation, not Yamaha or it's golden boy. Absolutely spot on, I wish some of those Nicky leghumpers would see the light

(yawn)

I think its cheap how it happened and its a load of bull to let Rossi off the hook. However, it does make things much more interesting. It will make for better race watching and Dorna, FIM, and MotoGP stand to make more money becuase of it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Oct 12 2006, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Besides, everyone who's ever considered a motoGP conspiracy theory knows that the "Powers that be" in motoGP are the Evil Red Wing Corporation, not Yamaha or it's golden boy.
u guy's & them kawasaki bricks r just jealous!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dannozx10r @ Oct 12 2006, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Absolutely spot on, I wish some of those Nicky leghumpers would see the light

at this point guys and gals, who cares......nicky got the benefit of the rain...and rossi got the flag.....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R-46 @ Oct 11 2006, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Successfully Swept Under The Carpet
absolute power corrupts absolutley
by dean adams
Wednesday, October 11, 2006
After nearly a month has passed since Valentino Rossi passed under a waving yellow flag during the Phillip Island GP it appears the matter has been successfully swept under the carpet by the powers that be.

Rossi's pass, caught on video tape, is a clear violation of the FIM/MotoGP rule book. But because the long-time race stewards claimed that they didn't see the pass (a highly unlikely scenario) while they watched it on multiple video screens, and also because the cornerworkers did not make them aware of the illegal pass, and because, they say the FIM rule book does not allow for penalty after the race (a false and ludicrous statement) the controversy has simply drifted away.

Ducati and Honda wrote letters to the FIM complaining about the incompetent personnel and the procedural gaffe at the Phillip Island race, but the panel the FIM would communicate with to discuss these matters are, yes, you guessed it, the same bunch who steward the race and were responsible for the global gaffe.

The FIM pledged to investigate the matter after receiving complaints from both the press and fans upset at seeing blatant favoritism blanketed as either real or feigned incompetence.

The FIM's Paul Duparc sent this e-mail to us and several other fans who contacted the FIM about the incident.

Thanks for your e-mail and comments.

As you know the whole event (practices and races) is filmed and followed by the Race Direction.

The Race Direction is composed of 4 persons:
- one representative of the FIM
- one representative of the promoter (Dorna)
- one representative of the teams (IRTA)
- one representative of the riders.

For the last MotoGP race, I have contacted members of the Race Direction in order to give you a clear and reliable answer. I have been told that the Race Direction decided that a sanction for overtaking in that particular circumstance was not appropriate.

Sincerely yours,

Paul DUPARC
CCR Coordinator / Coordinateur CCR
Federation Internationale de Motocyclisme (FIM)

Furthermore, at Motegi the FIM issued this press release to a limited audience:

PRESS RELEASE

Motegi, September 24

Road Racing World Championship Grand Prix
Statement from the Grand Prix Commission

The Grand Prix Commission composed of Messrs. Carmelo Ezpeleta (Dorna, Chairman), Claude Danis (FIM), Herve Poncharal (IRTA) and Takanao Tsubouchi (MSMA), in the presence of Mr Paul Butler (Secretary), in an extraordinary meeting held yesterday at the Twin Ring Motegi circuit, unanimously decided to issue the following statement:

Following full and frank discussions by all the parties involved in the FIM Road Racing World Championship Grand Prix (FIM, MSMA, IRTA, Dorna) addressing the issues arising from the Australian Grand Prix at Phillip Island which took place on September 17th, 2006, it was the consensus of all the parties to closely examine the regulations and procedures in order to avoid in future the incorrect application of the rules forbidding passing under yellow flags.

Immediate action includes a letter sent by the Race Direction to the Australian organisation pointing out the failings of their officials that caused the controversy.
In addition an in-depth study will be made of new technology to facilitate a more immediate response to incidents around a circuit.

So, essentially, they blamed the Australian cornerworkers and officials, and decided not to investigate whether Rossi deserved a post-race penalty or not. A development that would actually be funny if it were not a response so unbelievably pathetic regarding an incident that may very well help decide the world championship.
ENDS


R-46

If this was the case (Rossi doing the pass etc.) Then it should have been corrected (drop him a position or whatever) That is what happens to us normal guys glub racing. Even though most of these riders did come up through the ranks, there are a few that if they came to a club race on a matched bike without being able to afford a slipper clutch, launch control, cutting edge tires, traction control etc. they would never beable to cut it. Don't get me wrong I love motogp but I think at times we make these guys out to be bigger heros than they really are. My 15 cents.

What is that saying?
Something about a dead horse being beat??

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SmokinG @ Oct 14 2006, 04:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If this was the case (Rossi doing the pass etc.) Then it should have been corrected (drop him a position or whatever) That is what happens to us normal guys glub racing. Even though most of these riders did come up through the ranks, there are a few that if they came to a club race on a matched bike without being able to afford a slipper clutch, launch control, cutting edge tires, traction control etc. they would never beable to cut it. Don't get me wrong I love motogp but I think at times we make these guys out to be bigger heros than they really are. My 15 cents.

First of all, the incident it self is not very clear, or to me it looks very clear that there are nothing illeagal done. The pass was done well in front of the flag as far as I can see, but others don't think so.

I can agree that they are made into bigger heros than they really are but I have no doubt what so ever that they would wipe out the whole field of clubracers. Even those with detailed track knowledge would be parked compared to any world class GP rider.

rossi past stoner at the entry to turn 4... stationary yellow flag at turn 3, waved yellow at turn 4. rossi passed under yellow and got away with it. consider him lucky and lets hope that if it happens again, the appropriate measures are taken. Now. it is too late to punish rossi.

Yes, yes Dean - this sounds like good american style to help a good, but not champion class rider who is consistent, but certainly not spectacular to phillibuster his way to a title. After the Rossi/ Biaggi yellow flag debacle the rules were amended (for everyone) - This is typical Honda "off-the-track" conspiracy, aided and supported by a spoilt brat ready to blame everyone and anything other than his own lack of performance - he's lost 39 of a 50+ point lead in the previous 4 races. The live f...... you and f..... TV performance on Sunday is more consistent with stret brawling than professional MotoGP. The crap about Dani can atone by helping me with a one/ two finish just stinks - does NH really think the rest of the field, many of whom have more victories than he does will sit back and allow that, should Dani back off and let NH past - what junk. MotoGP would degenerate to the level of F1 if that were the case



<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R-46 @ Oct 11 2006, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Successfully Swept Under The Carpet
absolute power corrupts absolutley
by dean adams
Wednesday, October 11, 2006
After nearly a month has passed since Valentino Rossi passed under a waving yellow flag during the Phillip Island GP it appears the matter has been successfully swept under the carpet by the powers that be.

Rossi's pass, caught on video tape, is a clear violation of the FIM/MotoGP rule book. But because the long-time race stewards claimed that they didn't see the pass (a highly unlikely scenario) while they watched it on multiple video screens, and also because the cornerworkers did not make them aware of the illegal pass, and because, they say the FIM rule book does not allow for penalty after the race (a false and ludicrous statement) the controversy has simply drifted away.

Ducati and Honda wrote letters to the FIM complaining about the incompetent personnel and the procedural gaffe at the Phillip Island race, but the panel the FIM would communicate with to discuss these matters are, yes, you guessed it, the same bunch who steward the race and were responsible for the global gaffe.

The FIM pledged to investigate the matter after receiving complaints from both the press and fans upset at seeing blatant favoritism blanketed as either real or feigned incompetence.

The FIM's Paul Duparc sent this e-mail to us and several other fans who contacted the FIM about the incident.

Thanks for your e-mail and comments.

As you know the whole event (practices and races) is filmed and followed by the Race Direction.

The Race Direction is composed of 4 persons:
- one representative of the FIM
- one representative of the promoter (Dorna)
- one representative of the teams (IRTA)
- one representative of the riders.

For the last MotoGP race, I have contacted members of the Race Direction in order to give you a clear and reliable answer. I have been told that the Race Direction decided that a sanction for overtaking in that particular circumstance was not appropriate.

Sincerely yours,

Paul DUPARC
CCR Coordinator / Coordinateur CCR
Federation Internationale de Motocyclisme (FIM)

Furthermore, at Motegi the FIM issued this press release to a limited audience:

PRESS RELEASE

Motegi, September 24

Road Racing World Championship Grand Prix
Statement from the Grand Prix Commission

The Grand Prix Commission composed of Messrs. Carmelo Ezpeleta (Dorna, Chairman), Claude Danis (FIM), Herve Poncharal (IRTA) and Takanao Tsubouchi (MSMA), in the presence of Mr Paul Butler (Secretary), in an extraordinary meeting held yesterday at the Twin Ring Motegi circuit, unanimously decided to issue the following statement:

Following full and frank discussions by all the parties involved in the FIM Road Racing World Championship Grand Prix (FIM, MSMA, IRTA, Dorna) addressing the issues arising from the Australian Grand Prix at Phillip Island which took place on September 17th, 2006, it was the consensus of all the parties to closely examine the regulations and procedures in order to avoid in future the incorrect application of the rules forbidding passing under yellow flags.

Immediate action includes a letter sent by the Race Direction to the Australian organisation pointing out the failings of their officials that caused the controversy.
In addition an in-depth study will be made of new technology to facilitate a more immediate response to incidents around a circuit.

So, essentially, they blamed the Australian cornerworkers and officials, and decided not to investigate whether Rossi deserved a post-race penalty or not. A development that would actually be funny if it were not a response so unbelievably pathetic regarding an incident that may very well help decide the world championship.
ENDS


R-46

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (caseys_angel27 @ Oct 16 2006, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>rossi past stoner at the entry to turn 4... stationary yellow flag at turn 3, waved yellow at turn 4. rossi passed under yellow and got away with it. consider him lucky and lets hope that if it happens again, the appropriate measures are taken. Now. it is too late to punish rossi.

i remember you saying that you were gonna marshall there ...

just curious, were you stationed any where near the incident?

Nicky Hayden a spoilt brat? Ok so he might not be on Rossi's level on the track but Nicky and his entire family have a reputation for being nice, freindly people, and considering what was at stake I think he's been very calm about it all, even Honda seem to have let it go. It just Dean Adams yelling and screaming for anyone to listen now.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Oct 17 2006, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nicky Hayden a spoilt brat? Ok so he might not be on Rossi's level on the track but Nicky and his entire family have a reputation for being nice, freindly people, and considering what was at stake I think he's been very calm about it all, even Honda seem to have let it go. It just Dean Adams yelling and screaming for anyone to listen now.


Ok - I should have said ...."behaving like a spoilt brat" - he isn't always that way - but that doesn't excuse the performance in the gravel pit