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Rossi's Legacy Tainted

I don't think at this point you could say Rossi's legacy is tainted. It's fair to say that his skills have not diminshed. If he were to quit after this year than his legacy would take a hit. Even worse if it came out that he was addicted to marajuana and smoked pot every day than for sure he would be viewed as a degenerate burnout.
 
I see where you are coming from but i wouldn't take his comments all that seriously. They were made in an interview on some silly Italian TV show where no doubt he is having his ego inflated and the audience and interviewer are wanting something to cheer about. He is always going to rise to the occasion in that scenario, i'd but it down more as banter than a serious shot at his rivals. Remember this isn't something he is saying in racing circles or even in the paddock, this is mainstream media and he is just playing to their want of something to sensationalize. Casey and Jorge aren't going to lose any sleep over it.

When you have the celebrity status of a Valentino Rossi, does it really matter what forum you use. If Lorenzo told GQ magazine that he thought Rossi was a flaming .... and Uccio was his ... slave, do you think it would have any more or less impact than if it came from inside the racing circle.
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I don't think at this point you could say Rossi's legacy is tainted. It's fair to say that his skills have not diminshed. If he were to quit after this year than his legacy would take a hit. Even worse if it came out that he was addicted to marajuana and smoked pot every day than for sure he would be viewed as a degenerate burnout.

i think its more about his reputation than about his abilities,no sane person who followed gp the last couple of years would doubt them



not sure what your obsession with pot is though, wasn't your dad man enough to teach you how to act like one?
 
Rossi's Legacy is far from tainted. He was just a bit not himself during the interview on account of a minor blood transfusion mishap during surgery. As it turns out he was accidentally infused with tiger blood and is now on a drug called charlie sheen. he'll be back to his old self by sunday. you just hide and watch!
 
Rossi's Legacy is far from tainted. He was just a bit not himself during the interview on account of a minor blood transfusion mishap during surgery. As it turns out he was accidentally infused with tiger blood and is now on a drug called charlie sheen. he'll be back to his old self by sunday. you just hide and watch!





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in case your behind on what he is talking about, here is a song for you. And if Rossi is on tiger blood and charlie sheen there should be lots of winning involved.
 
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I love where this thread is going. We get chick members waking up in middle of night half naked, and Charlie Sheen vids. ....... love PS.
 
I'm gonna do something I rarely do and post reply without reading anything but the thread title. "rossi's legacy tainted"... I'll go back and actually read the rest of the thread after I've posted this. If my view is redundant I apologize ahead of time.



I have the distinct feeling that history will judge Rossi with a far blinder eye than we are seeing today. Even if Rossi's stint at Ducati turns out to be total debacle he has carved himself a niche in motorsports history. Ten years from now few will remember the currently perceived faults and many will remember his achievements. Whether you like it or not Rossi's legacy will be an enduring and ultimately positive one. Unless Vale pulls a OJ there ain't anything that's gonna "taint" his legend.



I've actually been contemplating the amount of time some members spend evangelizing and/or demonizing Rossi. Face it both camps - Valentino Rossi is a flawed human being exactly the same as any other (motor)sporting figure. He is egotistical, greedy, manipulative, and dishonest. He is also a proven champion for every manufacturer and in every level, format and class he has raced in as a professional. Period. The last fact alone is more the enough to guarantee his place in motorsport history.



Let me recap (and prepare for the flaming fallout). Even if Valentino Rossi fails miserably on the Ducati his legacy will not be tarnished, tainted nor diminished. History tends to be Incredibly lenient on iconic, multi-championship winning athletes. The faults we see today and tend to amplify will rate a minuscule or non-existent sidebar In the "legacy" of a dominant multi-championship winning racer.





Great post and hits the nail on the head. No doubt you'll draw a lot of crap from the Bopper/ Baiter/ Hater camps. But fact is that VR is up there with Ago on the all time podium - CS and Hogay will also no doubt be remembered, but as the other guys who beat the 9 times Champion in a couple of seasons
 
Tainted! Lol keep dreaming. Tell you what. He has achieved a lot on many diff bikes and many diff classes. His record stands no matter what happens at ducati. What does change is that he wasn't competitive(championship wise) on all the bikes he has ridden. But we can say that about all the others too.
 
I do think Rossi's legacy will be 'tainted' if he doesn't surprise us this year with good results or the coming years for that matter. If that Ducati doesn't improve by the end of his contract, what will Rossi's next career move be? He'll be stuck at Ducati cuz I really don't see any other teams offering him a ride since it seems like he burns bridges everytime he throws a fit and decides to leave a manufacturer...... that is his downfall and willl bite his ... in the end. He may take a look at Suzuki, but who knows where Suzuki will be at the end of this year nevermind a few years down the road. Honestly what will 'taint' his legacy is the fact that it seems Rossi is slowly unraveling and showing his true colors. I mean in his recent interviews he was going on about all the people that hates him and wants him to fail, even including the Ducati loyalists. And in an even more recent interview he was asked how he rates the other riders and he went on to say how him and everyone thinks Jorge Lorenzo is 'unpleasant'. He also mentioned that Max is not a good loser. Rossi is slowly losing his mind.



Taken from Crash.net



Valentino Rossi has given a frank account as to what he thinks of his main MotoGP rivals heading into this season's championship, most notably arch-nemesis' Jorge Lorenzo and Casey Stoner.



Rossi, who is gearing up for his race debut with Ducati in less than two weeks time at Losail, has been doing the media rounds in his home country to celebrate the two Italian 'motorcycling institutions' coming together for the first time.



However, it is his interview with talk show host Piero Chiambretti, which is set to be broadcast in Italy on Friday, that is likely to garner much attention, not least for comments made about certain rivals.



An excerpt taken from the show and transcribed by Sportmediaset.com sees Rossi call former FIAT Yamaha team-mate 'unpleasant', while Stoner – though the favourite in Rossi's eyes – is let down by often 'repeating the same mistakes'.“Stoner is the favourite for the championship, but I also say that to bring a jinx on him,” he jokes. “I give him 10 out of 10 for speed and talent, but a bit less for tactics and cunning. He is a mad man who often repeats the same mistake.



“Jorge is a great because everybody agrees about him in the sense that everybody thinks he is unpleasant. He is strong, he deserves 9.5. I won't say he is intelligent because that's a strong word. Let's say he is crafty.”



Rossi also touches upon his Ducati team-mate Hayden, revealing there will not be a return of the infamous 'wall' that split himself and Lorenzo in the Yamaha pit garage.



“Hayden is strong, he deserves an 8. He is my team-mate and therefore is my first rival. The wall? With Hayden there won't be one, whereas there was with Lorenzo because I was hoping to not teach him all of my tricks. That is something that generated so much controversy, but things passed from one side to the other anyway.



“Simoncelli deserves 8.5,” he says moving on to his friend. “He still needs to show more, but he has a very quick Honda and he will certainly be a thorn in my side.”



Finally, Rossi harks back to his bitter rivalry with countryman Max Biaggi, claiming the reigning World Superbike Champion didn't learn how to deal with defeat.“I look back on those fights with fondness,” he adds. “Away from the track, he used various tricks to try and destabilise me. Knowing how to lose is one of the most difficult things and Biaggi was never very good at that.”
 
His results on the bike will never be tainted, but OFF the track is different.



Look at Tiger Woods. Arguably one of the all time greats, ON the green,



Hell even off the green he must have been OK to have 1000's of flings.



But back to my point, people's opinion of Tiger's behaviour is now tainted.
 
Try to understand. Based on testing alone we can reasonably predict that Rossi isn't going be able to win his first race with the new team, like he did in 2004. The fact that he is in this position proves beyond doubt that all of his world titles are invalid, and should he beat Hayden this year to ONLY reason will be Dorna and Ducati's preferential treatment. DePuniet has been the best motogp rider for years, if only it was an authentic competition istead of a latin soap opera with japanese props we would all know it by now.



You have to be kidding. For the reason that Rossi hasn't tested well on the Ducati and doesn't look like he will win the first race, it is proof beyond doubt that all of his world titles are invalid.

Do you really honestly believe this? That's a pretty extreme view.

All of a sudden DePuniet is the best motogp rider? I thought Lorenzo and Stoner were according to the way Powerslide is going these days.
 
Hell even off the green he must have been OK to have 1000's of flings.



But back to my point, people's opinion of Tiger's behaviour is now tainted.

Not for me. I didn't give one flying .... about Tiger; that is before I found out he was banging mad chicks. Now I like the mothafuka.
 
You have to be kidding. For the reason that Rossi hasn't tested well on the Ducati and doesn't look like he will win the first race, it is proof beyond doubt that all of his world titles are invalid.

Do you really honestly believe this? That's a pretty extreme view.

All of a sudden DePuniet is the best motogp rider? I thought Lorenzo and Stoner were according to the way Powerslide is going these days.



I most certainly am kidding!
 
I think he'll win races on a Ducati before he goes anywhere, even if there isn't another title and even if it takes until next year to win i think it'll only strengthen his legacy. The longer he waits to succeed on the Ducati the more will be made of his commitment and hard work.
 
Lol......



It will be 4-5 races in, or even mid season before any kind of success will be had on the duc by rossi and co.



Anyone who seriously thought that even rossi and his team could turn this bike around this fast, must be living on cloud cukoo land.



Nah this season will be about lorenzo vs 3 honda's....sorry make that 4 if simo keeps going the way he is.



What will be interesting is 2012. If duc design a new chasis that benefits both rossi and hayden we could be in for a very special year.
 
Given that the Boppers often claimed that Rossi could hop on anything and ride it ( as some kind of defence against Stoers obvious ability to do so ), and the fact that Rossi has hopped on Stoners Ducati and gone deplorably ( I'm actually thinking of thinking of offering Ducati my services
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) ......... then itspretty obvious that he has gone down in some folks estimations of him ........ ie. his reputation has been tainted.
 

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