I put it down to the high petrol and road tax in the uk pushing us all back on to our peddle cycles
Rossi's Legacy Tainted
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I put it down to the high petrol and road tax in the uk pushing us all back on to our peddle cycles
I put it down to the high petrol and road tax in the uk pushing us all back on to our peddle cycles
Your not far of buddy,i cycle a lot at the mo as its cheap and good for me.
I put it down to the high petrol and road tax in the uk pushing us all back on to our peddle cycles
Our labor green govt is trying to do that over here. Who wants to arrive at work as a sweaty mess and how do you then go and see a client?
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Norah Head
Get a fuel efficient Motorcycle!! I can't believe how cheap I get to work some days and faster than I can in the car.
Cost me about a third of what it cost in the car and I get there about 10% faster on the bike. And I feel more "alive".
Cost me about a third of what it cost in the car and I get there about 10% faster on the bike. And I feel more "alive".
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Casey give him a break PMT Can be bad u know
Edit a bit more on it from #22 thread Rossi number 2
Stoner: Rossi has 'done nothing but complain'
"I just feel completely sorry for Ducati that Valentino has gone there and done nothing but complain about the bike for almost two years" - Casey Stoner.
Reigning MotoGP champion Casey Stoner has given a damning assessment of Valentino Rossi's time at Ducati.
Stoner won Ducati's only MotoGP title at his first attempt in 2007 and had scored 23 race wins for the factory by the time he left for Honda at the start of last season.
Rossi, accompanied by his team of mechanics, took Stoner's place at Ducati with the aim of becoming the first rider to win premier-class titles with three different manufacturers.
However seven time title winner Rossi has managed just two podiums from 27 races and will now return to Yamaha next season.
Stoner - who has long felt that Rossi and crew chief Jerry Burgess didn't give him the credit he deserved at Ducati - has highlighted comments of a quick fix to the front-end handling problems on the Desmosedici as an example of how they have been made to 'eat their words'.
AAP quotes Stoner as saying: "Jerry [said] that it would take him 80 seconds to fix that bike and that it was a simple issue and now they have had almost two years and have not made any inroads.
"Valentino obviously doesn't want to push limits and ride a bike that is not perfect, he has admitted that...
"I just feel completely sorry for Ducati that Valentino has gone there and done nothing but complain about the bike for almost two years."
Stoner and Rossi have long endured a fractious relationship, although they only fought each other directly for the title during the 2008 season.
Stoner will retire at the end of 2012, while Ducati is yet to announce Rossi's replacement.
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Australia's MotoGP world champion Casey Stoner has launched a stinging attack on Italian icon Valentino Rossi following Rossi's move back to Yamaha.
Rossi will saddle up again with Yamaha after a failed campaign with Ducati, on which Stoner won his first world title before switching to Honda.
Stoner has accused Rossi of failing to ride the bike to its limits and castigated the multiple world champion and his Australian crew chief Jeremy Burgess for boasting they could produce a Ducati on which "any rider could win."
"They ate their words from day one," Stoner said on Wednesday.
"Jerry saying that it would take him 80 seconds to fix that bike and that it was a simple issue and now they have had almost two years and have not made any inroads.
"Valentino obviously doesn't want to push limits and ride a bike that is not perfect, he has admitted that.
"Obviously he doesn't want to put the effort in with Ducati."
In his most recent race Rossi was eighth and 10 seconds behind teammate Nicky Hayden when he crashed out of the US GP.
In his first stint with Yamaha - from 2004 to 2010 - Rossi won 46 races and four world titles.
In a stunning back-flip Rossi is walking away from a reported $A35 million deal at Ducati to take a pay cut to return to Yamaha.
The seven-time world champion failed to win a race on the machine in his 22 months with the team.
Although now with Honda, Stoner remains a hero in the eyes of Ducati fans, having won 23 races and the 2007 world title with the red team.
There have been months of tensions with Rossi citing a lack of development work by Ducati engineers while he has floundered to master the unique style of the bike.
"I just feel completely sorry for Ducati that Valentino has gone there and done nothing but complain about the bike for almost two years," Stoner said.
"The amount of times that guy has had to eat his words is not funny, but people still forgive him for it."
Rossi will now have to take the backseat behind his rival, Spaniard Jorge Lorenzo.
"Our main investment is in Jorge and he is the No.1 candidate to be champion both this year and next year. He is our No.1 rider," said Yamaha MotoGP boss Lin Jarvis."
Edit a bit more on it from #22 thread Rossi number 2
Stoner: Rossi has 'done nothing but complain'
"I just feel completely sorry for Ducati that Valentino has gone there and done nothing but complain about the bike for almost two years" - Casey Stoner.
Reigning MotoGP champion Casey Stoner has given a damning assessment of Valentino Rossi's time at Ducati.
Stoner won Ducati's only MotoGP title at his first attempt in 2007 and had scored 23 race wins for the factory by the time he left for Honda at the start of last season.
Rossi, accompanied by his team of mechanics, took Stoner's place at Ducati with the aim of becoming the first rider to win premier-class titles with three different manufacturers.
However seven time title winner Rossi has managed just two podiums from 27 races and will now return to Yamaha next season.
Stoner - who has long felt that Rossi and crew chief Jerry Burgess didn't give him the credit he deserved at Ducati - has highlighted comments of a quick fix to the front-end handling problems on the Desmosedici as an example of how they have been made to 'eat their words'.
AAP quotes Stoner as saying: "Jerry [said] that it would take him 80 seconds to fix that bike and that it was a simple issue and now they have had almost two years and have not made any inroads.
"Valentino obviously doesn't want to push limits and ride a bike that is not perfect, he has admitted that...
"I just feel completely sorry for Ducati that Valentino has gone there and done nothing but complain about the bike for almost two years."
Stoner and Rossi have long endured a fractious relationship, although they only fought each other directly for the title during the 2008 season.
Stoner will retire at the end of 2012, while Ducati is yet to announce Rossi's replacement.
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Australia's MotoGP world champion Casey Stoner has launched a stinging attack on Italian icon Valentino Rossi following Rossi's move back to Yamaha.
Rossi will saddle up again with Yamaha after a failed campaign with Ducati, on which Stoner won his first world title before switching to Honda.
Stoner has accused Rossi of failing to ride the bike to its limits and castigated the multiple world champion and his Australian crew chief Jeremy Burgess for boasting they could produce a Ducati on which "any rider could win."
"They ate their words from day one," Stoner said on Wednesday.
"Jerry saying that it would take him 80 seconds to fix that bike and that it was a simple issue and now they have had almost two years and have not made any inroads.
"Valentino obviously doesn't want to push limits and ride a bike that is not perfect, he has admitted that.
"Obviously he doesn't want to put the effort in with Ducati."
In his most recent race Rossi was eighth and 10 seconds behind teammate Nicky Hayden when he crashed out of the US GP.
In his first stint with Yamaha - from 2004 to 2010 - Rossi won 46 races and four world titles.
In a stunning back-flip Rossi is walking away from a reported $A35 million deal at Ducati to take a pay cut to return to Yamaha.
The seven-time world champion failed to win a race on the machine in his 22 months with the team.
Although now with Honda, Stoner remains a hero in the eyes of Ducati fans, having won 23 races and the 2007 world title with the red team.
There have been months of tensions with Rossi citing a lack of development work by Ducati engineers while he has floundered to master the unique style of the bike.
"I just feel completely sorry for Ducati that Valentino has gone there and done nothing but complain about the bike for almost two years," Stoner said.
"The amount of times that guy has had to eat his words is not funny, but people still forgive him for it."
Rossi will now have to take the backseat behind his rival, Spaniard Jorge Lorenzo.
"Our main investment is in Jorge and he is the No.1 candidate to be champion both this year and next year. He is our No.1 rider," said Yamaha MotoGP boss Lin Jarvis."
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"Our main investment is in Jorge and he is the No.1 candidate to be champion both this year and next year. He is our No.1 rider," said Yamaha MotoGP boss Lin Jarvis."
If JLo wins title in 2012 then i can see it being partly true about 2013.....but if he doesn't win the title then Rossi will be in equal standing as JLo.....
If JLo wins title in 2012 then i can see it being partly true about 2013.....but if he doesn't win the title then Rossi will be in equal standing as JLo.....
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Casey sounds very bitter. Seems Rossi did get right into his head after all
Like Gibber? Similar except the curse reversed, 2 and 0.
This!
I ride the bike in my avatar to work every day, way more fun than any other mode of transportation and she still gets 40mpg. I would have to spend a lot on a new car to even approach that kind of fuel efficiency.
(back when we had avatars on this site...)
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Norah Head
Yeah, Vancouver is not a fun city to commute in, all stop and go. Plus the bike is 40 years old, I think she's doing ok
Just reading your statement about Nicky being VR's professional tester. I do believe that VR has been doing a hell of a lot of testing and trying new things himself and in fact, the other way around might apply. Rossi tested a frame update at Misano and because it was found to be useful, it was then deemed good enough for the great Nicky Hayden to throw a leg over...
A good point - while Rossi and JB are being panned for failing to turn Ducati around, the incumbent that has been there for most of four years is given a pass...
So does that make it official - Hayden is crap at development?
So does that make it official - Hayden is crap at development?
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Your Mom's House
Nickys hand is injured. That may help explain things regarding ur development point. Regarding my point, in which u quoted, lets not be too coy, VRs status on teams and the league, its all about him. Thats why he left Yam, and fully enjoyed said status at Duc. And its the reason he can return.
Btw, it seems we have a new supershit in the crowd, except worse, much worse.
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We shall find out next year. He should be the number 1 rider at Ducati since he's been there the longest, and has the most experience on the Duc. It could be like 2006 for Nicky, since he will be have been through a succession of other Number 1 teammates, then he becomes the main man....
2013 is in my view Nicky's second real shot at the title, or possibly his last on a factory GP bike.....
No more excuses or passes....
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Out of Nowhere
But I thought we'd established that the bike was only good for seventh place most of the time
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The current bike may only be good enough for 7th place, but the future Ducati is NIcky's not Rossi's pig....
i dont think nicky or anyone would be no1 rider next year guys
i think duc will give more or less equal attention to all 4 riders
we ll see who is the no1 in the standings next year
and ducati will probably focus on him
but nicky has a good chance of being top ducati
i think duc will give more or less equal attention to all 4 riders
we ll see who is the no1 in the standings next year
and ducati will probably focus on him
but nicky has a good chance of being top ducati
