Rossi's Legacy Tainted
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Definitely harsh.
The loss of confidence is in the bike, like marco melandri who had a similar riding style and similarly had a problem with the ducati. This didn't stop marco getting more out of the kawasaki the following year than should have been possible.
Parish is a goose anyway, sideshow bob these days at best........
I think the issues in Ducati are, certainly after Jerez, within the Team dynamic. Something is amiss in the whole garage, the bike is not great sure, Rossi is not suited to it, yes, but that doesn't really adequately explain a Q time of 3.5 seconds off the mark for these guys- well slower than what the same bunch managed during the race 7 years ago under similar conditions at the same track.
IMO they were playing with electronics too much during Jerez QP to try to sort out the understeer and power delivery, which bit them on the ... again.....I think they are all trying to prove that they can fix the fundamental flaws of the bike by somehow reverse engineering it with set-up to suit Rossi's requirements. And everytime they experiment it costs them dearly, all of their knowledge, success and combined egos are working against them with this bike, whereas Nickys boys are playing it much more conservatively-yet still not doing too much better anyway......Parish can attempt to rubbish Rossi and his commitment, but you certainly can't fault Nickys efforts-which only got him a few seconds quicker in the race anyway.......back to the drawing board again Prezi.......
all of the talk of renewed hope for improvement due to settings from Rossi, is unfortunately IMO just more spin, they are lost-Ducati are lost and have yet to find the talent within their engineers to come up with adequate solutions, Rossi battling with Barbera and both Factory bikes being whipped by the rookie Bradl on Sat bike means that Ducati are two years behind-and Rossi is actively seeking another ride, where there's smoke-there's fire.......
If you recall bayliss insisted on bringing his superbike team with him for his one-off winning motogp ride in 2006, and stoner brought gabbarini with him, so I am not sure that the ducati team, in motogp anyway, has ever been all that hot.
Michael I watched that very race on motogp.com not long ago & many of Bayliss's mechanics are still in Casey's team right now.
They were also the mechanics for Gibernau for that 2006 season, so Bayliss did not get to bring his superbike team with him.
I watched the race in 2006 but wouldn't have known the crew, or even livio suppo, from adam then.
The story about him bringing his own crew because he was unimpressed with his previous experience with the ducati motogp operation (and/or livio suppo) has been much quoted, but perhaps it is apocryphal.
http://motomatters.com/press_release/2012/08/10/official_confirmation_part_2_yamaha_anno.html
Well roger-me. End of chapter...................scuttling with his tail between his legs back to become Jorge,s handmaiden for 1/4 of Jorge,s salary.
How the mighty have fallen. Humiliation is complete.
The Ducati Episode.................his ambition well and truly outweighed his ability.
Well roger-me. End of chapter...................scuttling with his tail between his legs back to become Jorge,s handmaiden for 1/4 of Jorge,s salary.
How the mighty have fallen. Humiliation is complete.
The Ducati Episode.................his ambition well and truly outweighed his ability.
Haydens .... out weighs out Rossi has
Please can we make up
Has Yamaha confirmed he is riding for them?
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zoo yes
yam site
It is with great pleasure that Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd confirms the signing of Valentino Rossi to ride for the Yamaha Factory Racing MotoGP Team for 2013 and 2014.
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http://www.yamaha-racing.com/Racing...geTitle=Yamaha Factory Racing Press Statement
lets hope they get a new team sponsor ? as twitter suggests LARDA Car Group
yam site
It is with great pleasure that Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd confirms the signing of Valentino Rossi to ride for the Yamaha Factory Racing MotoGP Team for 2013 and 2014.
more
http://www.yamaha-racing.com/Racing...geTitle=Yamaha Factory Racing Press Statement
lets hope they get a new team sponsor ? as twitter suggests LARDA Car Group
ok, you got me there, but at least I got a small nibble out of you.
Losing Casey has made me a sad little vegemite, so please bear with me.
ps. Your mob put on a damn good show this past fortnight. How come you are so good at cycling these days?
For us, silver is the new gold, haha
The same reason that the Chinese swimming team was so good all those years ago. Better dealers.
Rossi is a son of a b___h who thinks that his antics and ........ are motogp??? But there NOT and never will be, he has been supported and treated with kit gloves in motogp
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If you build it they will come.. If not they will leave.
Only thing "tainted" is Ducati for not doing what was needed to turn that bike around. Lord Xeno himself wouldnt be able to win on the pos Duc.
Only thing "tainted" is Ducati for not doing what was needed to turn that bike around. Lord Xeno himself wouldnt be able to win on the pos Duc.
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Ducati got it wrong, and the GOAT could not compensate....even though it is 80% rider vs 20% bike....The Duc was/is fast...but it wont turn....Eitherway, this does diminish Rossi a little...
He will win on the Yamaha, and probably win the title again....and if that happens most of us will forget the Ducati years in the long term....
Personally, I think Ducati should consider pulling out completely now, and focus on WSBK....Ducati arent going to win or do anything of significance with Nicky as the number 1 rider or even with Dovi....
He will win on the Yamaha, and probably win the title again....and if that happens most of us will forget the Ducati years in the long term....
Personally, I think Ducati should consider pulling out completely now, and focus on WSBK....Ducati arent going to win or do anything of significance with Nicky as the number 1 rider or even with Dovi....
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Hahaha, It's ok Vale, Jorge only has a few demands of the second teammate, like cleaning his shoes, polishing his knob, lolol. Oh and you can't have the Doctor on your leathers anymore....he says now instead, you will have Jorge's ..... across your butt.
