Rossi set to race on Bridgestone in 2008
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(krusty @ Oct 16 2007, 12:05 PM) [snapback]95488[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Couldn't resist the ...!
I actually hope JT does well because he is aggressive and fair. That is his dilema though ... he needs to do well on average equipment to open better doors if, as I suspect, the Tech3 Yamaha is still an average package next year.
i agree, what position would you expect him to be finishing to get noticed ? i would hope for regular top 10 with a few top 5 or 6 on that bike.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Oct 16 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]95490[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
rossi = WC whinger
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Couldn't resist the ...!
I actually hope JT does well because he is aggressive and fair. That is his dilema though ... he needs to do well on average equipment to open better doors if, as I suspect, the Tech3 Yamaha is still an average package next year.
i agree, what position would you expect him to be finishing to get noticed ? i would hope for regular top 10 with a few top 5 or 6 on that bike.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Oct 16 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]95490[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
rossi = WC whinger
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Oct 16 2007, 09:14 PM) [snapback]95491[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
i agree, what position would you expect him to be finishing to get noticed ? i would hope for regular top 10 with a few top 5 or 6 on that bike.
If he does that it will be a good season for him (perhaps maybe not is his eyes). I was going to say that he needs to finish and not crash too often ... but then I thought of Casey's year last year
Thing about Casey last year was that he got out of the blocks so quickly! Whilst he did crash a lot, there is no doubt he was very fast from the start and he made a lot of teams take notice early!
The "not crash a lot" mentality I believe helped Ant West get the ride ahead of RDP. That said, RDP is fast and is/was prone to crashes like Stoner. So, the point I was trying to make seems to have gone in circles and now I don't know what makes a team take notice ...
One thing that is consistent ... Team LCR seems to attract riders with a crashing reputation;
Crashy Stoner
Carlos "Chucka: Checa
and now ... Randy de Punt it down the road!
i agree, what position would you expect him to be finishing to get noticed ? i would hope for regular top 10 with a few top 5 or 6 on that bike.
If he does that it will be a good season for him (perhaps maybe not is his eyes). I was going to say that he needs to finish and not crash too often ... but then I thought of Casey's year last year
The "not crash a lot" mentality I believe helped Ant West get the ride ahead of RDP. That said, RDP is fast and is/was prone to crashes like Stoner. So, the point I was trying to make seems to have gone in circles and now I don't know what makes a team take notice ...
One thing that is consistent ... Team LCR seems to attract riders with a crashing reputation;
Crashy Stoner
Carlos "Chucka: Checa
and now ... Randy de Punt it down the road!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(krusty @ Oct 16 2007, 12:38 PM) [snapback]95492[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
If he does that it will be a good season for him (perhaps maybe not is his eyes). I was going to say that he needs to finish and not crash too often ... but then I thought of Casey's year last year
Thing about Casey last year was that he got out of the blocks so quickly! Whilst he did crash a lot, there is no doubt he was very fast from the start and he made a lot of teams take notice early!
The "not crash a lot" mentality I believe helped Ant West get the ride ahead of RDP. That said, RDP is fast and is/was prone to crashes like Stoner. So, the point I was trying to make seems to have gone in circles and now I don't know what makes a team take notice ...
One thing that is consistent ... Team LCR seems to attract riders with a crashing reputation;
Crashy Stoner
Carlos "Chucka: Checa
and now ... Randy de Punt it down the road!
all great riders have been crashers, even vale has spent his time in the gravel. if they dont step over the limit then they will no where it is so cant give 100%, i said this about casey last year.
if jt doesn't do well next year i think wsb riders will shy away in future. none seem to land good rides in motogp.
im looking forward to seeing jt in motogp but i dont think he is going to set the world alight in all honesty, i hope im wrong tho.
i seem to have gone off topic slightly.. soz
If he does that it will be a good season for him (perhaps maybe not is his eyes). I was going to say that he needs to finish and not crash too often ... but then I thought of Casey's year last year
The "not crash a lot" mentality I believe helped Ant West get the ride ahead of RDP. That said, RDP is fast and is/was prone to crashes like Stoner. So, the point I was trying to make seems to have gone in circles and now I don't know what makes a team take notice ...
One thing that is consistent ... Team LCR seems to attract riders with a crashing reputation;
Crashy Stoner
Carlos "Chucka: Checa
and now ... Randy de Punt it down the road!
all great riders have been crashers, even vale has spent his time in the gravel. if they dont step over the limit then they will no where it is so cant give 100%, i said this about casey last year.
if jt doesn't do well next year i think wsb riders will shy away in future. none seem to land good rides in motogp.
im looking forward to seeing jt in motogp but i dont think he is going to set the world alight in all honesty, i hope im wrong tho.
i seem to have gone off topic slightly.. soz
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(phleg @ Oct 16 2007, 08:41 PM) [snapback]95485[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Thinly veiled stab at West?
I think West has more than 'cut it' during his limited time to proove himself and his ability in the premier class, so far..
So long as his progression continues on a steady upward trend (especially after next years pre-season testing) then im sure he'll be sticking around
Oh and im also sure Ant and JT will have some cracker battles next year.. personally, i look foward to them! No wait, i look forward to the 2008 season as a whole, period
Thinly veiled stab at West?
I think West has more than 'cut it' during his limited time to proove himself and his ability in the premier class, so far..
So long as his progression continues on a steady upward trend (especially after next years pre-season testing) then im sure he'll be sticking around
Oh and im also sure Ant and JT will have some cracker battles next year.. personally, i look foward to them! No wait, i look forward to the 2008 season as a whole, period
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(antfan @ Oct 16 2007, 01:44 PM) [snapback]95500[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I think West has more than 'cut it' during his limited time to proove himself and his ability in the premier class, so far..
So long as his progression continues on a steady upward trend (especially after next years pre-season testing) then im sure he'll be sticking around
Oh and im also sure Ant and JT will have some cracker battles next year.. personally, i look foward to them! No wait, i look forward to the 2008 season as a whole, period
in your dreams. jt and ant west are in different leagues. jt is a 2 x world champ and west has only ever won 1 race i think
I think West has more than 'cut it' during his limited time to proove himself and his ability in the premier class, so far..
So long as his progression continues on a steady upward trend (especially after next years pre-season testing) then im sure he'll be sticking around
Oh and im also sure Ant and JT will have some cracker battles next year.. personally, i look foward to them! No wait, i look forward to the 2008 season as a whole, period
in your dreams. jt and ant west are in different leagues. jt is a 2 x world champ and west has only ever won 1 race i think
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Oct 16 2007, 06:29 AM) [snapback]95503[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
in your dreams. jt and ant west are in different leagues. jt is a 2 x world champ and west has only ever won 1 race i think
Roger
<strike>Antfan</strike> .................What happened?
Antfan has a habbit of comparing West to World Champions. I think he thinks that if you mention West in the company of WC, it magically makes him (West) better, unfortunatley this is proven wrong when they are actually on the pesky racetrack
I think JT will do better than I or most people think. Here is why: the increased technology on the bikes have brought the GP bike closer to the Superbike, which I think will serve to foster a quick and successful transition for Toseland.
On topic: Well I'd be disappointed but not suprised if Rossi got Bstones at his request. Either way, I think it would be interesting, however, I think Michelin might lose interest in making a better tire without Rossi. Who knows. I'm for the control tire, not just to put the front runners on equal rubber (I'm naively assuming everybody would get the same goods), but also to help the teams like KR to compete (or at least focus on the bike more).
in your dreams. jt and ant west are in different leagues. jt is a 2 x world champ and west has only ever won 1 race i think
Roger
Antfan has a habbit of comparing West to World Champions. I think he thinks that if you mention West in the company of WC, it magically makes him (West) better, unfortunatley this is proven wrong when they are actually on the pesky racetrack
I think JT will do better than I or most people think. Here is why: the increased technology on the bikes have brought the GP bike closer to the Superbike, which I think will serve to foster a quick and successful transition for Toseland.
On topic: Well I'd be disappointed but not suprised if Rossi got Bstones at his request. Either way, I think it would be interesting, however, I think Michelin might lose interest in making a better tire without Rossi. Who knows. I'm for the control tire, not just to put the front runners on equal rubber (I'm naively assuming everybody would get the same goods), but also to help the teams like KR to compete (or at least focus on the bike more).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Oct 16 2007, 05:42 PM) [snapback]95560[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Roger
<strike>Antfan</strike> What happened?
Antfan has a habbit of comparing West to World Champions. I think he thinks that if you mention West in the company of WC, it magically makes him (West) better, unfortunatley this is proven wrong when they are actually on the pesky racetrack
it's called name dropping
Roger
Antfan has a habbit of comparing West to World Champions. I think he thinks that if you mention West in the company of WC, it magically makes him (West) better, unfortunatley this is proven wrong when they are actually on the pesky racetrack
it's called name dropping
Just use your brains you two twits, Ant knows all the GP tracks, JT doesnt, Ant will be more familiar with the bike, JT wont.. im sure Westy will be at LEAST as competetive as JT next year, at the very least....
I am a little worried about this Bridgestone switch (assuming it will be done). Firstly i am uneasy with the way Rossi is "bigger than the sport" and basically gets away with demanding what he wants against the wishes of Bridgestone, Yamaha and JB. I also where this will leave Lorenzo, riding Michelins and with no decent data to learn from. Not to mention the fact that the bike will start to develop primarliy for Bridgestone tyres, further stitching up the Michelin runners.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Oct 17 2007, 07:37 PM) [snapback]95702[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I am a little worried about this Bridgestone switch (assuming it will be done). Firstly i am uneasy with the way Rossi is "bigger than the sport" and basically gets away with demanding what he wants against the wishes of Bridgestone, Yamaha and JB. I also where this will leave Lorenzo, riding Michelins and with no decent data to learn from. Not to mention the fact that the bike will start to develop primarliy for Bridgestone tyres, further stitching up the Michelin runners.
Surely some mistake
Rossi if on the Stones would have no data, not the 3 other riders on Michelins (or one on Mich, 2 on Dunlop). What have Yamaha been running this year??
I am a little worried about this Bridgestone switch (assuming it will be done). Firstly i am uneasy with the way Rossi is "bigger than the sport" and basically gets away with demanding what he wants against the wishes of Bridgestone, Yamaha and JB. I also where this will leave Lorenzo, riding Michelins and with no decent data to learn from. Not to mention the fact that the bike will start to develop primarliy for Bridgestone tyres, further stitching up the Michelin runners.
Surely some mistake
Rossi if on the Stones would have no data, not the 3 other riders on Michelins (or one on Mich, 2 on Dunlop). What have Yamaha been running this year??
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(yamaka46 @ Oct 17 2007, 07:46 PM) [snapback]95703[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Surely some mistake
Rossi if on the Stones would have no data, not the 3 other riders on Michelins (or one on Mich, 2 on Dunlop). What have Yamaha been running this year??
Of course, but next years bike will obviously be different and my point is that instead of being able to learn from Rossi how to set up a bike and following the lead of an excellent rider Jorge will be alone heading the Yamaha/Michelin effort. Its not ideal
Surely some mistake
Rossi if on the Stones would have no data, not the 3 other riders on Michelins (or one on Mich, 2 on Dunlop). What have Yamaha been running this year??
Of course, but next years bike will obviously be different and my point is that instead of being able to learn from Rossi how to set up a bike and following the lead of an excellent rider Jorge will be alone heading the Yamaha/Michelin effort. Its not ideal
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Oct 17 2007, 11:37 AM) [snapback]95702[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I am a little worried about this Bridgestone switch (assuming it will be done). Firstly i am uneasy with the way Rossi is "bigger than the sport" and basically gets away with demanding what he wants against the wishes of Bridgestone, Yamaha and JB. I also where this will leave Lorenzo, riding Michelins and with no decent data to learn from. Not to mention the fact that the bike will start to develop primarliy for Bridgestone tyres, further stitching up the Michelin runners.
Agree.
Though I'm not worried about Lorentho. He will have plenty of data and support. He's Spanish remember...
I am a little worried about this Bridgestone switch (assuming it will be done). Firstly i am uneasy with the way Rossi is "bigger than the sport" and basically gets away with demanding what he wants against the wishes of Bridgestone, Yamaha and JB. I also where this will leave Lorenzo, riding Michelins and with no decent data to learn from. Not to mention the fact that the bike will start to develop primarliy for Bridgestone tyres, further stitching up the Michelin runners.
Agree.
Though I'm not worried about Lorentho. He will have plenty of data and support. He's Spanish remember...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Oct 17 2007, 08:00 PM) [snapback]95706[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Of course, but next years bike will obviously be different and my point is that instead of being able to learn from Rossi how to set up a bike and following the lead of an excellent rider Jorge will be alone heading the Yamaha/Michelin effort. Its not ideal
I do agree that if the rumour is true and Tech 3 retain Dunlops then it's not ideal for either Rossi or Lorenzo. But assuming 3 Mich riders, George will have Colin to help him and Rossi may well disadvantaged himself....
Of course, but next years bike will obviously be different and my point is that instead of being able to learn from Rossi how to set up a bike and following the lead of an excellent rider Jorge will be alone heading the Yamaha/Michelin effort. Its not ideal
I do agree that if the rumour is true and Tech 3 retain Dunlops then it's not ideal for either Rossi or Lorenzo. But assuming 3 Mich riders, George will have Colin to help him and Rossi may well disadvantaged himself....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(yamaka46 @ Oct 17 2007, 08:53 PM) [snapback]95719[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I do agree that if the rumour is true and Tech 3 retain Dunlops then it's not ideal for either Rossi or Lorenzo. But assuming 3 Mich riders, George will have Colin to help him and Rossi may well disadvantaged himself....
I am fully expecting Jorge to be better than Edwards straight away.
I do agree that if the rumour is true and Tech 3 retain Dunlops then it's not ideal for either Rossi or Lorenzo. But assuming 3 Mich riders, George will have Colin to help him and Rossi may well disadvantaged himself....
I am fully expecting Jorge to be better than Edwards straight away.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Oct 17 2007, 08:58 PM) [snapback]95720[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I am fully expecting Jorge to be better than Edwards straight away.
But that does not change the fact that Edwards has been helping develop the Yamaha with tyres produced by Mich for quite some time now.
I am fully expecting Jorge to be better than Edwards straight away.
But that does not change the fact that Edwards has been helping develop the Yamaha with tyres produced by Mich for quite some time now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Oct 17 2007, 08:00 PM) [snapback]95706[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Of course, but next years bike will obviously be different and my point is that instead of being able to learn from Rossi how to set up a bike and following the lead of an excellent rider Jorge will be alone heading the Yamaha/Michelin effort. Its not ideal
.... lorenzo, let him do his own leg work rather than feeding off vales work. im sure vale will learn from capi who spent years developing a bike for a new gun to come in and reap the glory.
Of course, but next years bike will obviously be different and my point is that instead of being able to learn from Rossi how to set up a bike and following the lead of an excellent rider Jorge will be alone heading the Yamaha/Michelin effort. Its not ideal
.... lorenzo, let him do his own leg work rather than feeding off vales work. im sure vale will learn from capi who spent years developing a bike for a new gun to come in and reap the glory.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(antfan @ Oct 17 2007, 08:23 AM) [snapback]95612[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Just use your brains you two twits, Ant knows all the GP tracks, JT doesnt, Ant will be more familiar with the bike, JT wont.. im sure Westy will be at LEAST as competetive as JT next year, at the very least....
I don't think West will ever be a top motogp rider, hes mid division at best but as you said he has shown he can cut it at this level and thats not easy.
Just use your brains you two twits, Ant knows all the GP tracks, JT doesnt, Ant will be more familiar with the bike, JT wont.. im sure Westy will be at LEAST as competetive as JT next year, at the very least....
I don't think West will ever be a top motogp rider, hes mid division at best but as you said he has shown he can cut it at this level and thats not easy.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Oct 18 2007, 08:53 AM) [snapback]95738[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I don't think West will ever be a top motogp rider, hes mid division at best but as you said he has shown he can cut it at this level and thats not easy.
Crap, never thought id see those words coming from your keyboard
Thank you for kinda seeing it from my point of view
However, I think he has what it takes to be a top 5 contender in the future, but we can agree to disagree on that one..
I don't think West will ever be a top motogp rider, hes mid division at best but as you said he has shown he can cut it at this level and thats not easy.
Crap, never thought id see those words coming from your keyboard
Dont even bother starting on James when you have NOTHING to go off regarding his moto gp ability.
Regarding James i think with the team he's chosen it may not be a great start..which could hamper his finishes greatly. However, on different tyres maybe the bike wil be better?
Regarding rossi:
2. the bike he's on is struggling
3. coupled that with rubbish tyres = he cant be as competitive as he needs to be which is frustrating because everyone knows he has the skill.
Stoner has said that he feels the tyre problems have masked his talent...so surely the perfect thing would be for rossi to be on bridgestone so the playing field is evened out and if he beats him eveyone can realise his skill.
Unless stoner is scared... he's doing an awful lot of whinging.
Rossi will have more influence on dorna than stoner without a doubt whether or not its a good thing, i can see why stoner is put out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Oct 16 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]95490[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
rossi = WC whinger
stoner = BRIDGESTONE champion
Regarding James i think with the team he's chosen it may not be a great start..which could hamper his finishes greatly. However, on different tyres maybe the bike wil be better?
Regarding rossi:
2. the bike he's on is struggling
3. coupled that with rubbish tyres = he cant be as competitive as he needs to be which is frustrating because everyone knows he has the skill.
Stoner has said that he feels the tyre problems have masked his talent...so surely the perfect thing would be for rossi to be on bridgestone so the playing field is evened out and if he beats him eveyone can realise his skill.
Unless stoner is scared... he's doing an awful lot of whinging.
Rossi will have more influence on dorna than stoner without a doubt whether or not its a good thing, i can see why stoner is put out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Oct 16 2007, 12:09 PM) [snapback]95490[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
rossi = WC whinger
stoner = BRIDGESTONE champion
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