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Rossi Out After Malaysia

Tom said:
I agree, Stoner's illness had a much more obvious and noticable effect on his results, his riding and his appearance. Rossi's shoulder injury is based entirely what he and his people tell us is happening
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I agree in part, but still one was more convincing than the other....i guess it depends on how bias we all are to either rider. In which case a pointless discussion.



Also are you saying that rossi's results this season have been up to scratch? Even considering the leg break, his results have been ..... even since he admitted the leg wasnt a problem.
 
povol said:
Fixed it for you

Maybe its more to do with the fact that Rossi fans are notorious excuse maker in almost every scenario.....



Its always the bike, the team, the track, the tyres, the oppositions fault....when things dont go well.
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Call the fans all you like, but we are talking about the riders attitudes, and stoner is notoious for his excuses. Even his fans must admit to this to a degree.
 
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Nice one, you have actually given zero input.
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You answer a question/comment with nothing in particular.....at least i've established that much lol.
 
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Rob said:
Call the fans all you like, but we are talking about the boppers attitudes, and stoner is in our fairytale, notorious for his excuses. Even though no rational person or fans would admit to this to any degree.
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Rob said:
Nice one, you have actually given zero input.
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You answer a question/comment witha very valid example of my fellow boppers mindset in particular.....at least i've established that much lol.
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Oh Contrare' !! I think I have well informed many ofthe more rational fans of MGP out there, just what wackos exist in Bopperland
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BarryMachine said:
Oh Contrare' !! I think I have well informed many ofthe more rational fans of MGP out there, just what wackos exist in Bopperland
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So because you dont like an opinion, rather than replying with some decent counter input, you fall onto your only card! bopperism.



Awsome little system tbh.
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Rob said:
I agree in part, but still one was more convincing than the other....i guess it depends on how bias we all are to either rider. In which case a pointless discussion.



Also are you saying that rossi's results this season have been up to scratch? Even considering the leg break, his results have been ..... even since he admitted the leg wasnt a problem.
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Admited the leg wasn't a problem? It's just what he says. With so much going on with the Rossi side its vey possible the shoulder is bareley slowing him down at all. While Stoner was visably in bad shape physically, was fading during races and consistently better before and after the illness. I think word for word and observation for observation Stoner's condition was more obviously true. I don't even understand why he was doubted at all
 
Tom said:
Admited the leg wasn't a problem? It's just what he says. With so much going on with the Rossi side its vey possible the shoulder is bareley slowing him down at all. While Stoner was visably in bad shape physically, was fading during races and consistently better before and after the illness. I think word for word and observation for observation Stoner's condition was more obviously true. I don't even understand why he was doubted at all
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He came in a great position his first race back.....his leg will have improved week by week, thats a fact.



But some of his worst performances of the season have come very recently.
 
woody996 said:
Yes yamaha did contract two number 1 riders. That is where your point loses it's way. Lorenzo wanted equality, Rossi wanted to be number 1. If rossi's contract said that Rossi was to be the number 2 rider to Lorenzo then he should have in that situation rode less aggressively. Rossi's contract put him on equal standing to Lorenzo and therefore both have as much right to go for 3rd place as hard as they legally can. I'm just grateful that they both did.
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It is about racing and with both bikes being so similar in performance and both riders wanting the same podium place EVERY pass is an attack. Big difference is who is 9 times world champion and who is on the way to his 1st (maybe only) WC. Lorenzo seems to think his crown prince status gives him special rights and privileges - that's not the way racing at the top works. To be multiple WC you need to fight to the limit of the rules - not how you would like them to be. Yamaha is doing a great job in making Honda look like it treats it's riders well. Looking forward to 2011 and amongst other things seeing Spies put his elbows in Horegay's face. Rossi, Pedro and maybe Stoner will be off fighting for the podium positions.
 
There had been a suggestion he could bring the operation forward and miss the end of the season, but he says he intends to take part in the remaining races in Yamaha colours as he sees out his contract before moving to Ducati.



"For sure I will go to Australia. If I have no [shoulder] pain I will finish the season," said the 31-year-old seven-time world champion.





--off BBC
 
Ngads said:
There had been a suggestion he could bring the operation forward and miss the end of the season, but he says he intends to take part in the remaining races in Yamaha colours as he sees out his contract before moving to Ducati.



"For sure I will go to Australia. If I have no [shoulder] pain I will finish the season," said the 31-year-old seven-time world champion.





--off BBC
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If true then it will rubbish the frankly ludicrous suggestions, that rossi is scared by lorenzo having the chance to come back at him after the title is secure.
 
Rob said:
He came in a great position his first race back.....his leg will have improved week by week, thats a fact.



But some of his worst performances of the season have come very recently.
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Exactly, the pattern is less obvious, the results less consistent and his comments more varied. I believe the shoulder is making a difference, but i never doubted that Stoner was ill. It just think its a shame that some of the best riders in the world (mainly Stoner, but to some extent Pedrosa) are shown little respect by fans of the sport.
 
Tom said:
Exactly, the pattern is less obvious, the results less consistent and his comments more varied. I believe the shoulder is making a difference, but i never doubted that Stoner was ill. It just think its a shame that some of the best riders in the world (mainly Stoner, but to some extent Pedrosa) are shown little respect by fans of the sport.
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I agree.....in fact dani is fast becoming a new favourite of mine.



Stoner however.......



Its all the excuses, and moaning. I just cant take to it at all. No doubting he is a very talented lad(the story of when he started out is amazing), but just loses out in that attitude dept.



Every rider makes their fair share of excuses, but its literally every time he doesnt win a race.



I've said to my old man for years, that if casey lightened up a little i would be a proper fan.
 
Rob said:
I agree.....in fact dani is fast becoming a new favourite of mine.



Stoner however.......



Its all the excuses, and moaning. I just cant take to it at all. No doubting he is a very talented lad(the story of when he started out is amazing), but just loses out in that attitude dept.



Every rider makes their fair share of excuses, but its literally every time he doesnt win a race.



I've said to my old man for years, that if casey lightened up a little i would be a proper fan.
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I just don't see him like that, i think he just talks straight. He may not charm the world with a cheeky smile or pour out the standard PR script but i think thats a refreshing and welcome character. Plus i don't think he makes any more excuses than any of the other riders, and i cerainly think he's more likely to speak honestly in public than Rossi or Lorenzo who are clearly much more calculating with what they say, sometimes at the expense of the truth or how they really feel.
 
chopperman said:
It's not a case of whether i believe. I have repeatedly asked 2 questions in this thread. no one has attempted to answer them or point me to some reading that might
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Okay Roj, For the sake of the deaf, the dumb and the blind... would you please re-state those two golden questions?





Oh and BTW - after Rossi's (excellent) tantrum at Motegi - I'd say the fans should

not watch the race at PI. Yamaha's probably not taking any chances. They'll probably

send Rossi out to race on a pit bike. After all - it's their football.
 
Keshav said:
Okay Roj, For the sake of the deaf, the dumb and the blind... would you please re-state those two golden questions?





Oh and BTW - after Rossi's (excellent) tantrum at Motegi - I'd say the fans should

not watch the race at PI. Yamaha's probably not taking any chances. They'll probably

send Rossi out to race on a pit bike. After all - it's their football.
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If i must
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A. Does Lactose intolerance onset to the degree that stoner suffered come on overnight, a few weeks or over many months / years ?



B. Had Casey used products containing lactose prior to the 09 season where he suffered so badly ?



maybe is200 can answer question B although common sence would indicate a logical answer.
 
chopperman said:
If i must
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A. Does Lactose intolerance onset to the degree that stoner suffered come on overnight, a few weeks or over many months / years ?



B. Had Casey used products containing lactose prior to the 09 season where he suffered so badly ?



maybe is200 can answer question B although common sence would indicate a logical answer.
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A. As I understand it from the literature I found for you, lactose intolerance can start relatively suddenly, by which I mean in the space of a few months. With Stoner, it seemed to take about 3 months to affect him really badly.



B. Yes, he had. But he wasn't lactose intolerant then, as he appears to have suffered from late onset lactose intolerance (the diagnosis for this being that lactose intolerance appears as an adult, rather than as a child). Late onset lactose intolerance affects people who previously had no problems processing lactose.
 

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