Firstly, the Valencia comment is my theory. I don't walk around claiming that I have a magical ability to look into Marc's mind and discern the truth. It's my belief. It could be wrong, but I base it on the following:
1. If I were in Marc's position, I would not pass Lorenzo as Lorenzo finishing third behind a fast closing Dani would mean that Rossi would win the title.
2. I have never seen Marc so reluctant to pass, while sitting within a few tenths of a guy all race. He usually will risk almost anything to win in the last lap (just look at the last two races, for example - nevermind literally every other time he's been in a similar position (e.g. PI 2015 when he came from nowhere and risked everything to take JL).
3. Jorge's own comment after the race, directly stating that his fellow Spaniards helped him in that race: .
I respect JL's admission "provo di essere sincero". He's a very forthright person, even if sometimes a little awkward.
I've noticed a flurry of post from you lately, so let me just say that I appreciate you coming here and expressing your opinion. It's good for the forum to have various and diverse takes.
Fair enough, I under stand faith, there's people who believe a bunch of stuff contrary to obvious logic and extensive evidence.
1. If Marc passed Jlo at Valencia, 2nd was enough to clinch the title. So now you've moved the goal post, first you said Marc refused to pass Lorenzo (in the unlikely event Jlo was gonna just let it happen with a championship on the line) but now you're saying Marc prevented Pedrosa from passing Lorenzo. If we are to "believe" your logic, then Marc could have easily let Pedrosa by, then according to you, Pedrosa would have "magically" passed Lorenzo, if Marc was so dedicated on helping Lorenzo and preventing Rossi glory, he could have just as easily held station behind Lorenzo whilst 'letting' Pedrosa win, Lorenzo wins the title anyway! Do you see how ridiculous your logic sounds when you read it out loud?
Let's recap what you BELIEVE, you believe Marc gave up a win (something he's adverse to doing historically, since you bring up modus operandi) despite Lorenzo finishing 2nd still prevented Rossi glory. If Marc was dead set on preventing Rossi glory, Pedrosa winning still accomplished Marc's conspiracy to aid Lorenzo and thwart Rossi. That's not just faith, it's also illogical.
2. You've never seen Marc so reluctant to pass a guy because your faith disallows you to focus on the man in front; Marc was doing everything he could to stay within striking distance of a determined leader who was laying down a scorching pace without the slightest mistake. You say, look at Marc now, as in today? How about let's examine Marc in the context of the season, the moment of tge Valencia race we are discussing; he had crashed out of races attempting to do the thing he had just learned NOT to do! But you have faith that he wasn't thinking or learned from the season's mistakes. Are you also aware RD basically told him to be more cognizant when racing championship contenders? Or was this admonishment only apply to Rossi? It's quite mind-boggling that you cite PI 15 to make the case that Marc conspired at Valencia 15. That's exactly the kind of religious faith you need to believe something so convoluted. Ironically, you quipped to HelloMars about arguing with a guy who thinks perhaps Rossi faked injury? What kind of crazy are we talking here when you use an example of Marc helping Lorenzo at Valencia by citing Marc taking points away from Lorenzo at PI. Seriously, it's breathtaking faith!
3. Yes, I've read Lorenzo say Marc and Pedro "helped" him; you erroneously take this to mean, they did it on purpose. Let's examine this notion of 'help' further with a question we both know the answer to:
Question: 'Hey, RCV600RR, does it 'help' you to accept Rossi losing the 2015 title because you 'believe' Marc conspired against him?
Answer: 'Yes, it 'helps' me accept the outcome because it make the title illegitimate in my eyes."
Does this mean your faith 'helped' decided the 2015 title? Did your faith have any effect on the outcomes whatsoever? The answer is NO. Lorenzo is saying, sure it helped they couldn't get past me, it would have not helped if they actually managed to both do it. However, neither managed to pass him, despite trying. Again, in case you missed it, did your faith in believing Marc 'helped' Lorenzo have any effect on the outcome of the title? No, none. Lorenzo is illustrating the same concept: it 'helped', that is, it had zero effect!
You're still confused I bet. Let me try a different explanation, because you're thinking, wait, you were not in a position to effect the outcome, regardless of how much faith you must have (and it's a lot). Well, Lorenzo is illustrating the same point, neither Marc nor Pedrosa were in a position to effect the outcome because Lorenzo had control over the win that day. Marc and Pedro want to win every single race they line up for, they fail more times than they succeed. Why? Because often the eventual race winner has full control of the pace, hence the win.
Take another look at Phillip Island 2015. You reason that Marc was just toying around and had a last lap attack. So then, according to your logic Lorenzo HELPED Marc win that race! See how ridiculous your logic becomes when you read it out loud?
Hi Marc, it's RCV600RR from the FaithMatters blog, I have a question, did it 'help' that Lorenzo couldn't pass you at Phillip Island?
Marc: Yes, it 'helped'.
So RCV600RR, how much of that help had an actual effect on the outcome of the PI race? Zero.
I agree, Lorenzo es sincero. He is sincere, but I think you've grossly mistaken his meaning.
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