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Roger Lee to Moto2?

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Motomatters is reporting that Roger Lee Hayden is being linked with JIR team in Moto2. The article says he is short of personal financing. I hope he makes it, but the statistics suggest he's going to have to find someone who can put up at least 200,000 euros during a bad economy and a weak dollar.

Doesn't look good, imo.

If I were him, I'd try to hit up the gamblers like Kenny did. Online poker might be an interesting place to look as well.
 
Just read that. It's going to be tough, I wonder how strong his relations are with Monster and if they already have any presence in Moto2 on a team level. Maybe Rockstar is looking to enter the European market? Monster and Rockstar are throwing money at any sort of action sport or action sport athlete in the states, with Monster now pushing into Europe. Rockstar can't be far behind.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Nov 10 2009, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Just read that. It's going to be tough, I wonder how strong his relations are with Monster and if they already have any presence in Moto2 on a team level. Maybe Rockstar is looking to enter the European market? Monster and Rockstar are throwing money at any sort of action sport or action sport athlete in the states, with Monster now pushing into Europe. Rockstar can't be far behind.

Wow, I kind of feel like an ..... now. I completely forgot Hayden has ties to Monster money. It will be interesting to see if he can convince them that he can appeal to the European market since Monster will already be sponsoring Team Texas. I wonder if they are just waiting on viewership projections before they jump in with both feet in Moto2.

I don't see anyway that Moto2 could under perform unless there are serious unforeseen financial issues or technical issues.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Nov 10 2009, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wow, I kind of feel like an ..... now. I completely forgot Hayden has ties to Monster money. It will be interesting to see if he can convince them that he can appeal to the European market since Monster will already be sponsoring Team Texas. I wonder if they are just waiting on viewership projections before they jump in with both feet in Moto2.

I don't see anyway that Moto2 could under perform unless there are serious unforeseen financial issues or technical issues.
I'm not convinced his ties to Monster are that strong, he sort of inherited the sponsorship via Kawasaki. That being said, I'm sure they're looking to get hold of as many riders in the GP paddock as possible. At the moment, who do they have? Rossi, Tech 3, Bradley Smith... I can't think of any others.
 
Earls Racing or Earls used cars would work.
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I would like to see this work out. I've got to think that M2 is a far superior sponsorship marketplace than the AMA? I guess it depends on your target audience.
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I think the M2 series is shaping up fairly well and I think it will quickly earn the loyalty of the average GP viewer.

200,000 euro is pretty big coin. I've got to think the Hayden's are connected well enough to round up the sponsors for a season?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (levigarrett @ Nov 11 2009, 01:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I would like to see this work out. I've got to think that M2 is a far superior sponsorship marketplace than the AMA? I guess it depends on your target audience.
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I think the M2 series is shaping up fairly well and I think it will quickly earn the loyalty of the average GP viewer.

200,000 euro is pretty big coin. I've got to think the Hayden's are connected well enough to round up the sponsors for a season?
Maybe Nicky can give back to the family that sacrificed so much for his career. Im sure he has rat holed millions. Or he could endorse a product with his proceeds going towards the M2 team. Lots of ways this can happen,in the big scheme of things,that not alot of money. My big question is,are they asking him to ride for free,or is the 200,000 for his salaary,which in essence is paying yourself to ride.Bad times or not,i would not risk my life in a racing series for free
 
I thinking that this could be a good thing for Moto2's popularity in the States. I was going to be following the series anyway since it's a new formula and what not, but the possibly having a decent American rider in the mix makes it all the more interesting.
Yes I know that Kenny Noyes is already riding in the series, but come on, his last name's not Hayden.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Nov 11 2009, 08:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Maybe Nicky can give back to the family that sacrificed so much for his career. Im sure he has rat holed millions. Or he could endorse a product with his proceeds going towards the M2 team. Lots of ways this can happen,in the big scheme of things,that not alot of money. My big question is,are they asking him to ride for free,or is the 200,000 for his salaary,which in essence is paying yourself to ride.Bad times or not,i would not risk my life in a racing series for free

How awesome would it be to see Roger Lee riding his Moto2 around with a picture of Nicky on the side?
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I know the states is bigger than holland, but what a LAME reason would it be if RL hayden would be racing moto2 only cause he's american, so that the popularity of moto2 would grow.
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other than that, good for him if he has the chance to do it, hope sponsorship works out. would you reckon moto2 is better than ama or wherever he races? Id say so since moto2 is global..
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marijke @ Nov 11 2009, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I know the states is bigger than holland, but what a LAME reason would it be if RL hayden would be racing moto2 only cause he's american, so that the popularity of moto2 would grow.
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other than that, good for him if he has the chance to do it, hope sponsorship works out. would you reckon moto2 is better than ama or wherever he races? Id say so since moto2 is global..

Roger Lee wouldn't be going to Moto2 only b/c he is an American. He's out of a job and he was one of America's up-and-coming riders before Robertino Pietri tried to kill him during a SBK practice session in 2008. RL has a MotoGP wild card under his belt and he would have ridden Laguna in 2008 had he not been injured.

If he gets to Moto2 it will be b/c of his abilities. If he is on a well sorted team, he will run at the pointy end.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marijke @ Nov 11 2009, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I know the states is bigger than holland, but what a LAME reason would it be if RL hayden would be racing moto2 only cause he's american, so that the popularity of moto2 would grow.
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other than that, good for him if he has the chance to do it, hope sponsorship works out. would you reckon moto2 is better than ama or wherever he races? Id say so since moto2 is global..

How do you know so much about RL and his riding abilities?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Nov 11 2009, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How do you know so much about RL and his riding abilities?
I dont, I was refering to this comment <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I thinking that this could be a good thing for Moto2's popularity in the States. of aayst4
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marijke @ Nov 11 2009, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I dont, I was refering to this comment of aayst4
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That comment is true. It would be good for MOTO 2 and the states. But don't automatically assume that he is getting in on his passport. I actually think that he would be competitve in the series.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marijke @ Nov 11 2009, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I know the states is bigger than holland, but what a LAME reason would it be if RL hayden would be racing moto2 only cause he's american, so that the popularity of moto2 would grow.
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I don't hold Roger Lee in the same regard as Lex and Sack. He came up at the same time as Spies and was never able to put anything together in SBK for whatever reason. He's never really been on a top team but his results have never been anything terribly impressive outside of SS.

That being said, if he were to come in order to improve the popularity of the series in the states, what's the difference between that and the number of Spanish riders in the series through sponsorship connections? Many Spanish riders bring sponsorship money and get a bit of a preferential look in the feeder classes, I don't see anything wrong with trying to tap such a large resource like the US.

I'm not saying it's right, I don't like that many times good riders get overlooked because they don't have any personal sponsors who can pay their way, but it is the way it is. Now, it just happens to be a Yank getting a look. Should he bring sponsorship, of course.
 
Tlamasci is a perfect example of big sponsors opening the door for you! Hell it got him into Moto Gp. Which wasn't too bad. He finished in the back all the time but at least he filled in some space. I think its in RL's best intrest to go over to moto2. Cardenas already put himself out there by runing in the WSS race. AMA is just a sinking ship and its in every good riders intrest to try and head over to europe to do some ......... free racing. If Nicky coughs up the 200,000 he can look foward to hanging with his lil bro all over the world.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Nov 11 2009, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't hold Roger Lee in the same regard as Lex and Sack. He came up at the same time as Spies and was never able to put anything together in SBK for whatever reason. He's never really been on a top team but his results have never been anything terribly impressive outside of SS.

That being said, if he were to come in order to improve the popularity of the series in the states, what's the difference between that and the number of Spanish riders in the series through sponsorship connections? Many Spanish riders bring sponsorship money and get a bit of a preferential look in the feeder classes, I don't see anything wrong with trying to tap such a large resource like the US.

I'm not saying it's right, I don't like that many times good riders get overlooked because they don't have any personal sponsors who can pay their way, but it is the way it is. Now, it just happens to be a Yank getting a look. Should he bring sponsorship, of course.
What you say about RLH on a Superbike is true,it whipped his .... The kid can be magic on a 600 though. And in the end,we are talking about a 600 class.With the right equipment,i have no doubt he would run up in the front. Last year he was coming back from serious injuries,Kawasaki never did get the new bike sorted out ,he was having a contract dispute with the team, and was biting his tongue to not blurt out what he thinks about DMG. With all of that behind him,i look for him to jump start his once promising career. Or,he might not be as mentally tough as his brothers and is done.I doubt it though,he is Earls son and the apple dont fall far from the tree.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Nov 12 2009, 08:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What you say about RLH on a Superbike is true,it whipped his .... The kid can be magic on a 600 though. And in the end,we are talking about a 600 class.With the right equipment,i have no doubt he would run up in the front. Last year he was coming back from serious injuries,Kawasaki never did get the new bike sorted out ,he was having a contract dispute with the team, and was biting his tongue to not blurt out what he thinks about DMG. With all of that behind him,i look for him to jump start his once promising career. Or,he might not be as mentally tough as his brothers and is done.I doubt it though,he is Earls son and the apple dont fall far from the tree.
True, he's had some setbacks and is a very talented rider, no doubt about that. I'm just not convinced he can stack up, even on a 600. Like I said in another thread, if I were taking any AMA rider over to Moto2 it would be Tommy Hayden, end of discussion. I don't think there's anyone faster on a 600 in the states, not even Hacking.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Nov 12 2009, 06:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What you say about RLH on a Superbike is true,it whipped his .... The kid can be magic on a 600 though. And in the end,we are talking about a 600 class.With the right equipment,i have no doubt he would run up in the front. Last year he was coming back from serious injuries,Kawasaki never did get the new bike sorted out ,he was having a contract dispute with the team, and was biting his tongue to not blurt out what he thinks about DMG. With all of that behind him,i look for him to jump start his once promising career. Or,he might not be as mentally tough as his brothers and is done.I doubt it though,he is Earls son and the apple dont fall far from the tree.

Well said. It's important to note that we are talking about a 600 series. Although I would hope that these 600 are a different beast than WSS bikes. I think he deserves a shot based on skill and results, not on his passport.
 

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