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Rider X from Laguna Seca

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Pedrosa KO’d? He should take it up with Puig
Rider X gets ready for Laguna Seca and has a worrying thought about the Spaniard’s accident.


So, Everything ok?
And how could it be otherwise in a place like this. Shopping in San Francisco, great weather, a race to run and holidays round the corner.

I think Pedrosa wouldn’t agree with you.
I don’t want to talk about that.

That’s impossible, I’m here to talk. Talk.
I pity Pedrosa. I’ve seen him look unwell and I’m worried that he’s here. I also have an issue with the fact that everything seems to be ok between him and Puig.

Why?
Don’t you remember that at the beginning of the season, when he was well ahead in a race, they were telling him he had a much smaller advantage than the one he actually had? There, I remember that you guys, and rightly so, had criticised that situation. A rider needs to be told the truth. Because if you make him push extra hard and he gets injured, then he gets injured because he’s been lied to.

So you’re saying that it happened at Sachsenring too?
Maybe, but I’m not the one saying it as I had other things to think about. Some people who were working at the pitwall said it. They said that Dani was being shown an advantage of two and a half seconds less than that which he actually had. Just when he fell.

But why?
Let’s say that he had a strategy in mind where he set himself an objective which he wouldn’t slow down before reaching in order to ensure himself a win, and let’s say that when he had already reached the advantage he had set himself he was being told from the pitwall that he still had a good bit left to go. I think that’s an irresponsible initiative.

And if they did that to you and you won because of it?
After the podium I would be almightily pissed off. I want to feel like a man, I’m a rider, I know what I’m doing and I want maximum transparency when I’m racing. If the few tidbits of information I get during the race are lies which I’m flying past at 300km per hour I would be furious, very much so. However, if he’s happy...Maybe he’s ok with it. Maybe he’s the one who asked to be pushed in that way, using doubt.

Well, he doesn’t seem happy to me...
Precisely. Also because here you can’t do what Bayliss used to and ride without using the clutch. Over here you need it. It’s one of the ‘manual’ helps you have when you need to brake.

How about a clutch using the thumb? Like Doohan used to do with his rear brake?
Are you kidding? In this place the clutch needs a lever, a long one. They’re mega clutches. You’d have to have Hulk’s thumb, certainly not Pedrosa’s. To me it’s unthinkable. If he manages to ride here it’s because they’ll give him enough painkiller to numb a horse.

Laguna Seca?
I can’t tell you if it’s my first time here or whether I’m a veteran. But it’s a very particular track. To me it’s still dangerous when compared to our usual standards. There, it’s one of those few tracks where you need time to get used to it and gain confidence.

And the rookies?
There, that’s it. According to me those guys should get an extra turn. As happened 3 years ago when racing came back here for the first time. Not doing that is unfair.

Will the Americans from the AMA like Hacking and Spies do well?
Maybe Spies who’s already slightly familiar with the Suzuki, otherwise I really don’t think so. We’ve already seen it with Duhamel. These bikes are very different. Do you get that or not? You have to be precise, to the millimetre, an engineer. They’re used to an altogether different type of riding, completely different bikes. Well, the level of AMA which tends to be quite hyped up is actually much below that of the world superbike.
 
many thanks BG...

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some of these comments wont go down well with our american friends and some will...

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seems puig is well liked around the paddock as well then...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bikergirl @ Jul 18 2008, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, he doesn’t seem happy to me...
Precisely. Also because here you can’t do what Bayliss used to and ride without using the clutch. Over here you need it. It’s one of the ‘manual’ helps you have when you need to brake.
Surely this rider x as people have said about previous rider x interviews has to be loris capirossi; apart from the bayliss reference surely these remarks about puig and dani would not be made by a rider very close to the start of his career in view of the risk of future revelation of his identity. The comments about sachsenring would seem consistent with events there; as everyone said it seemed most uncharacteristic and indeed senseless for dani to continue to push so hard with the lead he had.

I find the medical revelations (in general, not by rider x specifically) to be mysterious. Going by the reports he has a sprained ankle; rider x would obviously know better than us (certainly me anyway) how this would affect riding a race at laguna, but marco melandri did finish 3rd here with a broken ankle last year; I can't remember which ankle was involved, perhaps it was on the other side. I think the third proximal phalanx fracture sounds like a worry this soon after his injury. With precise diagnoses of his other injuries they have vaguely said he had arthroscopic treatment of a fracture of the main bone of his wrist; what is this, his distal radius, his scaphoid or what? If it is his scaphoid he is running a risk of a long term adverse outcome.

Fascinating as always. Thanks for translating it.
 
Surely "Rider X" is just made up. C'mon, somebody who nobody knows, who nobody sees, who nobody hears is just made up. How can anyone believe this is a rider in motoGP? How can any of this be taken for anything but what it is - words from?????
Seriously, this is "journalism" of the lowest denominator. For all you know, a leprechaun sitting under a four leaf clover at the end of the rainbow wrote this.
 
^^Agreed. If it is actually a rider then it sounds like an articulate Italian so Capirossi gets my vote only because I doubt Rossi would do such an interview. The clutch comment is interesting. I would've thought hydraulics would soften the clutch pull. Also the last statement of precision gives a great insight to what these bikes actually are and what it takes to ride them well.

I can hardly wait for the first practise. Thanks BG
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jul 18 2008, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Surely "Rider X" is just made up. C'mon, somebody who nobody knows, who nobody sees, who nobody hears is just made up. How can anyone believe this is a rider in motoGP? How can any of this be taken for anything but what it is - words from?????
Seriously, this is "journalism" of the lowest denominator. For all you know, a leprechaun sitting under a four leaf clover at the end of the rainbow wrote this.
Having read all of the Rider X posts, they don't sound made up to me. The viewpoint and knowledge is a bit different than your average journo report, so either it's genuine or that leprechaun has great insight.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Helix @ Jul 18 2008, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Having read all of the Rider X posts, they don't sound made up to me. The viewpoint and knowledge is a bit different than your average journo report, so either it's genuine or that leprechaun has great insight.
They may be knowlegeable but it doesn't mean they race in motogp.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bikergirl @ Jul 18 2008, 04:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And the rookies?
There, that’s it. According to me those guys should get an extra turn. As happened 3 years ago when racing came back here for the first time. Not doing that is unfair.

Will the Americans from the AMA like Hacking and Spies do well?
Maybe Spies who’s already slightly familiar with the Suzuki, otherwise I really don’t think so. We’ve already seen it with Duhamel. These bikes are very different. Do you get that or not? You have to be precise, to the millimetre, an engineer. They’re used to an altogether different type of riding, completely different bikes. Well, the level of AMA which tends to be quite hyped up is actually much below that of the world superbike.
Sounds like a rookie to me. If it were Cappers or some other vet he wouldn't care about fair, I wouldn't think. And I'd get a right laugh if Spies and Hacking show up and finish ahead of a fair number of Italians just to be sure that whoever this is eats crow.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Jul 18 2008, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>^^Agreed. If it is actually a rider then it sounds like an articulate Italian so Capirossi gets my vote only because I doubt Rossi would do such an interview. The clutch comment is interesting. I would've thought hydraulics would soften the clutch pull.
Yeah, it seem like Capri.
As far as clutch pull, having it too soft in a racing scenario doesn't allow for quality decel moderation, which is super important at a place like laguna
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jul 18 2008, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Surely "Rider X" is just made up.
So what? If so it is a lot of fun and fairly spot on in addressing the controversies. I don't think bikergirl has ever made any claims as to the reality of rider x, and has been known to demonstrate a sense of humour herself.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jul 19 2008, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So what? If so it is a lot of fun and fairly spot on in addressing the controversies. I don't think bikergirl has ever made any claims as to the reality of rider x, and has been known to demonstrate a sense of humour herself.
What "controversies" are you talking about? I never said anything about bikergirl. She posted it from what is supposedly an Italian website. I was just pointing out that there is ABSOLUTELY no evidence that this "rider X" is a motogp rider. By all means have fun, but I'm just pointing out that it's probably .........
 
I don't know, I just felt so much pity on Pedrosa. I just feel something is wrong about him. Go mate...! Kick the the devil
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(read: Puig)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Blue Cielo @ Jul 19 2008, 12:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't know, I just felt so much pity on Pedrosa. I just feel something inside when I see his pics on the web, maybe the inner feeling of him is sad but in the other hand some one is controlling him and he has no power to reject it. Poor Pedrosa... Go mate...!
I feel the same - just what is it that Dani has done to become such a hated rider at the age of 22? Wow, you'd think he'd killed the pope or something? I mean, the guy is a very gifted rider - a great rider, a multiple world champion. He certainly doesn't lack courage or commitment. He isn't a Rossi - but who is? The only criticism I have of him is his ability in the wet, although that's certainly improved.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jul 18 2008, 07:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I feel the same - just what is it that Dani has done to become such a hated rider at the age of 22? Wow, you'd think he'd killed the pope or something? I mean, the guy is a very gifted rider - a great rider, a multiple world champion. He certainly doesn't lack courage or commitment. He isn't a Rossi - but who is? The only criticism I have of him is his ability in the wet, although that's certainly improved.

Read the forum. There are numerous topics and posts explaining why Dani is very disliked. His mouth is full of garbage that spews out at the wrong place and wrong times. I like a true sportsman and Dani is nowhere near that.


As far as Rider X goes. Its a good read and take it for what its worth. In my personal opinion he is a rider. I'm not sure if its Capi although he does have some good insight to Pedrosa's injury but so would a lot of others. If it was Capi I think that he would be a little more accepting of Pedrosa's decision to try and ride after the recent events.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jul 18 2008, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I feel the same - just what is it that Dani has done to become such a hated rider at the age of 22? Wow, you'd think he'd killed the pope or something? I mean, the guy is a very gifted rider - a great rider, a multiple world champion. He certainly doesn't lack courage or commitment. He isn't a Rossi - but who is? The only criticism I have of him is his ability in the wet, although that's certainly improved.

How do i loath the,let me count the ways.

#1 The obvious,you shouldnt even have to ask

#2 His immediate reaction to #1

#3 Lousy Teammate,even if you hate your teammate,you keep it out of the press and dont blame development on him when your sorry ... is sidelined from crashing all the time.

#4 Alberto Puig

#5 Overall sense of entitlement [See #4}
 
DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! I've read the forum - I read the forum every ....... day. I even put up who is the most "disliked rider" poll, even though I knew who'd win and who'd be second. I still can't understand why someone would be so hated at the age of 22. It's almost childish on this forum why Pedrosa is hated so much.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Jul 18 2008, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Read the forum. There are numerous topics and posts explaining why Dani is very disliked. His mouth is full of garbage that spews out at the wrong place and wrong times. I like a true sportsman and Dani is nowhere near that.


As far as Rider X goes. Its a good read and take it for what its worth. In my personal opinion he is a rider. I'm not sure if its Capi although he does have some good insight to Pedrosa's injury but so would a lot of others. If it was Capi I think that he would be a little more accepting of Pedrosa's decision to try and ride after the recent events.
I agree about rider x; it is a good read and seems to give an italian slant on current issues perhaps different from what we see in the english language press, hence my gratitude for bg making the effort to translate. I am sure she would tell us if it is a semi-spoof way of addressing current issues or involves a real rider or series of riders if asked nicely; she seems rather clever.

I find it hard to know about pedrosa; he is definitely a very talented rider and not without courage. I can see why hayden fans were upset by the 2006 incident. I think it is harsh to judge him on what he says in english in which he does not seem particularly fluent; he has more excuse for this than several riders for whom it is the native language. Perhaps spanish speakers may have a better perspective; if you are one I would obviously defer to you.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jul 18 2008, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! I've read the forum - I read the forum every ....... day. I even put up who is the most "disliked rider" poll, even though I knew who'd win and who'd be second. I still can't understand why someone would be so hated at the age of 22. It's almost childish on this forum why Pedrosa is hated so much.
He says very little in his press conferences. When he does say something, it's complaining about how his tires have been .... or the bike isn't very good or the bike hasn't been developed properly. If you're going to call someone out, then do it. I think the passive-aggressive responses he has are quite dull and annoying.

I personally don't care for his riding style. I don't think he can win a race without getting away early. Since he came to MotoGP, he hasn't been one for scrapping.

And there are many out there who love Pedrosa and I can understand why, he's a young prodigy. But it's similar to the story of Biaggi. He has millions of fans, but those who don't like him are very vocal in doing so.

Still respect the guy as a rider, just not my kind of guy. (No hard feelings Teo)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jul 18 2008, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think it is harsh to judge him on what he says in english in which he does not seem particularly fluent; he has more excuse for this than several riders for whom it is the native language. Perhaps spanish speakers may have a better perspective; if you are one I would obviously defer to you.
He speaks like a robot en spanish, which makes him come accross as very arrogant.
 

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