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moto vudu said:
I guess you decided to jump into this debate to kill some time, but the main point you're attempting to make is simply pulling one of my comments to michaelm out of context. He was implying that a tire could chunk but should never delaminate. That's why I responded with delaminating or chunking doesn't matter, it's both rubber separating from the tires. We're discussing the ways a tire can deteriorate/fail. Trying to enter this debate with talk of tire marbles is completely off subject and the EXACT same thing JPS tried last year. Sometimes makes me wonder if you, michaelm, and JPS are the same person. I'd like to pull the ip addresses for all 3 of your accounts and see if they match. Either that or you look up to him and allow him to pollute your mind with his BS.
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No need to do that. I can confirm it all. In fact many years ago, when your birth was foretold, we conspired at our monthly Illuminati gathering to create this forum for the specific purpose of ganging up on you in order to suppress the precious truths you express because they're a threat to our way of life. :p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p

Oh - and we've hired a team of Russian and Chinese to hack your email; not to mention we watch you (while eating popcorn) on your computer when you .......... and laugh at your tiny ......
 
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Keshav said:
Ever raced in the rain? I think not. I have. Your statement is nothing more than a arm chair racer's wishful speculation - that you can in no way back up.
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It was the reason Rossi gave as to why he crashed and it's a believable (at least for me) reason. If you think Rossi was lying about failing to adjust his braking marker then good for you... that would be an arm chair racer's wishful speculation.
 
Moto Moron fails once again to understand what is being said to him, choosing instead to lash out at everyone who sees him for what he truly is...an ignorant and worthless poster who has little to no clue about the sport he professes to be a fan of.
 
Keshav said:
No need to do that. I can confirm it all. In fact many years ago, when your birth was foretold, we conspired at our monthly Illuminati gathering to create this forum for the specific purpose of ganging up on you in order to suppress the precious truths you express because they're a threat to our way of life. :p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p

Oh - and we've hired a team of Russian and Chinese to hack your email; not to mention we watch you (while eating popcorn) on your computer when you .......... and laugh at your tiny ......
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:D:D:D
 
JPSLotus said:
Moto Moron fails once again to understand what is being said to him, choosing instead to lash out at everyone who sees him for what he truly is...an ignorant and worthless poster who has little to no clue about the sport he professes to be a fan of.
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Now you're just getting sloppy and embarrassing yourself in front of your buddies that you cherish so dearly (they're your only friends). Come on JPS, if you're going to insult at least bring it up to a HS level, you've dropped down a 3rd grade level.

Maybe instead of insulting you can read a racing article about the difference between racing slicks and rain tires. It would benefit you greatly.
 
moto vudu said:
Now you're just getting sloppy and embarrassing yourself if front of your buddies that you cherish so dearly (they're your only friends). Come on JPS, if you're going to insult at least bring it up to a HS level, you've dropped down a 3rd grade level.

Maybe instead of insulting you can read a racing article about the difference between racing slicks and rain tires. It would benefit you greatly.
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Still waiting to hear whether the delamination of those dry Bridgestone tyres was a consequence of a tyre failure or a rider failure.

Also repeat after me, "I am not Valentino Rossi". A criticism of him is not a criticism of you.
 
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moto vudu said:
Now you're just getting sloppy and embarrassing yourself in front of your buddies that you cherish so dearly (they're your only friends). Come on JPS, if you're going to insult at least bring it up to a HS level, you've dropped down a 3rd grade level.

Maybe instead of insulting you can read a racing article about the difference between racing slicks and rain tires. It would benefit you greatly.
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Have you actually learned anything yet?

You've been making unfounded statements since you showed up in the wake up Sepang 2015 to defend your hero. Being obtuse for the sake of it is not a virtue even though you like to imagine it is. Your I'll are a dime-a-dozen. We've heard your tired .... before and we'll hear it from another of your brethren that comes along to this forum.

You still haven't figured out the difference between delamination and chunking. Let me know when you do. I'm sure that won't happen though and we'll be treated to more of your ignorant and outright asinine posts about the RCV and Lorenzo.
 
Just got out of my job interview... went well. Probably relocating out of TX soon so I have to make it to COTA this year.
 
JPSLotus said:
Have you actually learned anything yet?

You've been making unfounded statements since you showed up in the wake up Sepang 2015 to defend your hero. Being obtuse for the sake of it is not a virtue even though you like to imagine it is. Your I'll are a dime-a-dozen. We've heard your tired .... before and we'll hear it from another of your brethren that comes along to this forum.

You still haven't figured out the difference between delamination and chunking. Let me know when you do. I'm sure that won't happen though and we'll be treated to more of your ignorant and outright asinine posts about the RCV and Lorenzo.
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I'll give you credit for at least putting more thought and effort into that than your previous moto moron insult. That said, I'm currently in a great mood and don't feel like responding to all of it. Maybe later.
 
moto vudu said:
I'll give you credit for at least putting more thought and effort into that than your previous moto moron insult. That said, I'm currently in a great mood and don't feel like responding to all of it. Maybe later.
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Bridgestone after noting conditions were difficult still actually apologised to the riders when that dry tyre delaminated for Rossi and others.
 
moto vudu said:
I don't address the entire forum by "you guys", just the individuals that share the opinion I'm debating against. If that's not you, then I"m not talking to you.
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I didn't suggest that you were - but perhaps specify who you are talking to.

moto vudu said:
Your first post in this thread was

"Can't wait to see Rossi unravel in the first race."
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Actually that's precisely what he did in October 2015 and it was cringeworthy viewing. No desire to see the fallout from that again.

It was a glib throwaway response to another member of the yellow congregation that obviously inadvertently touched a raw nerve in the process. I can't be held accountable for the sensitivities of extremists.

In reality, I'd quite like Rossi to win this as a statement of intent.

moto vudu said:
Yet, you're telling me to cut the .... and just enjoy the ....... racing. YOU GUYS think you can bully others into only talking .... if the subject is Rossi and to adopt your opinions on everything and everyone else. You should know by now I don't give a damn if you agree with that I post and I'm not susceptible to e-bullying tactics.
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I have no desire to "bully you" over an internet forum and I am fully aware that you have the necessary reserves of conviction and integrity not to succumb to such unwarranted online abuse.

In respect of talking .... about Rossi, as a past master, you manage that perfectly well yourself

moto vudu said:
You fail to understand even though I've said it multiple times that I don't hate any of the riders.
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Good, something we both agree on. Strange though that your preoccupation with Lorenzo's supposed mental fragility has verged upon the obsessional.

And you evidently fail to understand that criticism of your blind yellow deity does not make someone a hater.

moto vudu said:
You keep wanting to put me into a box for people who only follow Rossi and that's why most of YOU struggle to troll me.
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You put yourself in that category through a closed mind a dictatorial diatribe and a refusal to challenge your faith. Perhaps try thinking out of that box from time to time

"Troll you?" You mean people that express a view that does not accord with your own.

moto vudu said:
Take your own advice and just sit back and enjoy the racing.
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I will indeed and I find that it is immeasurably enhanced by a lack of affiliation far less hero worship.
 
moto vudu said:
I don't address the entire forum by "you guys", just the individuals that share the opinion I'm debating against. If that's not you, then I"m not talking to you.

Your first post in this thread was

"Can't wait to see Rossi unravel in the first race."

Yet, you're telling me to cut the .... and just enjoy the ....... racing. YOU GUYS think you can bully others into only talking .... if the subject is Rossi and to adopt your opinions on everything and everyone else. You should know by now I don't give a damn if you agree with that I post and I'm not susceptible to e-bullying tactics.

FYI, I said I liked Vinales two years ago when he first arrived at Suzuki. You fail to understand even though I've said it multiple times that I don't hate any of the riders. You keep wanting to put me into a box for people who only follow Rossi and that's why most of YOU struggle to troll me.

Take your own advice and just sit back and enjoy the racing.
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Its never about the racing. Watch this thread post race. 10 pages will discuss the race while another 30 will be about bashing Rossi and victimizing a rider long since retired.
I'll be watching the racing for the future, not the past. Cant wait to see if the Alien bike can give birth to another mythological space creature
 
FP2 Results:

1. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 55.085s [Lap 15/16] 343km/h (Top Speed)
2. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 55.185s +0.100s [15/17] 348km/h
3. Jonas Folger GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 55.208s +0.123s [14/15] 341km/h
4. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 55.316s +0.231s [15/18] 345km/h
5. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 55.378s +0.293s [4/16] 343km/h
6. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 55.414s +0.329s [15/18] 342km/h
7. Alvaro Bautista ESP Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 55.581s +0.496s [14/18] 350km/h
8. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 55.604s +0.519s [16/17] 348km/h
9. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 55.698s +0.613s [5/18] 342km/h
10. Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 55.750s +0.665s [12/12] 340km/h
11. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 55.760s +0.675s [12/17] 344km/h
12. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 55.828s +0.743s [16/17] 341km/h
13. Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 55.959s +0.874s [15/17] 342km/h
14. Karel Abraham CZE Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 56.003s +0.918s [17/18] 346km/h
15. Andrea Iannone ITA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 56.069s +0.984s [15/16] 337km/h
16. Alex Rins ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)* 1m 56.179s +1.094s [15/18] 342km/h
17. Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 56.368s +1.283s [15/17] 343km/h
18. Loris Baz FRA Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 56.501s +1.416s [15/15] 339km/h
19. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 56.530s +1.445s [15/17] 343km/h
20. Hector Barbera ESP Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 56.934s +1.849s [18/18] 346km/h
21. Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 57.116s +2.031s [16/16] 343km/h
22. Sam Lowes GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)* 1m 57.517s +2.432s [14/15] 336km/h
23. Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 58.020s +2.935s [12/17] 339km/h
Read more at MotoGP Results - MotoGP Qatar - Free Practice (2) Results
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Lorenzo looked very unhappy, leaving the garage without even taking his helmet off. Had brake issues I believe.
 
moto vudu said:
It was the reason Rossi gave as to why he crashed and it's a believable (at least for me) reason. If you think Rossi was lying about failing to adjust his braking marker then good for you... that would be an arm chair racer's wishful speculation.
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Well that was a rookie mistake if he failed to take into account his better acceleration would require him to brake earlier...
 
Well, dang, Scott, way to upset the apple red Ducati cart. :thump up This is so interesting. Do Ducatis have h.p.? :p

At this point -
On to Qualifying TWO:
Vinales
Marquez
Redding
Dovizioso
Folger
Pedrosa
Zarco
Rossi
Bautista
Lorenzo

Persons of note NOT going to TWO:
Crutchlow
Iannone
Rins
Petrucci
 
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