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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Mar 8 2008, 08:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>#1 Your a ....., Hayden was worthy. What a ...........
#2 Maybe...
#3 Maybe next year, talk about worthy
#4 Agree
#5 What the hell? Good thing you aint in charge. I got love for Dovi but...
#6 Hes outta of the top ten for sure
#7 Top ten if he doesn't crash
#8 Top five due to his package
#9 Yeah
#10 ....... midget .........., hope he DNF's
#11 Yup
#12 Yup
#13 Yup
#14 Why not? Suzuki sucks ... too
#15 Or lucky, you saw how great he was on the Honda...
#16 Who?
#17 Wheres that poster Antwest fan?
#18 Will improve

IM DRUNUCK!!!!!!!!!!

He vanished when the preseason started.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Mar 8 2008, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He vanished when the preseason started.

LOL

I forgot how long racing threads get so quickly - just wait till Sundays race discussion thread

Anyway, really nice session that - nice to see the new faces to GP mixing it up big time. Lorenzo looks very strong, especially that 5/6 lap run at the end.

Just have the feeling Stoner is crusing and could pull out a bit more time. The race is gonna be fricking awesome!

Loving the night racing, as memento said makes the bikes look really smart.............except Tech 3's coz nothing can make that look smart, what a .... looking bike.

JT looking good, nice to see Edwards with some form. Tech 3 the new top privateer team of 08?

D'antin must be pissed.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Mar 8 2008, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hmm well Rossi is tucked in there, he ain't just amblin' around. & Pedro is famous for "that" kinda ..... The angle is just not good enough to tell either way.where should a rider not be touring? on the racing line especially on the entry/exit of a turn, which is exactly what rossi was doing. rossi didn't get on the gas at all out of there, his fault. if someone had pulled that .... on him he be shouting about it.

stoner will win bar any disasters. the battle between the yamahas and the sattelite hondas for the rest of the top five positions should be vintage as long as there are no surprise tyre problems or no-one runs out of fuel, considering the improvements in top speeds/revs. qatar is hard on the juice. rossi is in big trouble unless he can find something today, problem is, he's on his own.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Mar 6 2008, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hayden to P1, but stoner on race day will win by 5+ secondskeep rubbin those crystal balls pinky, it's working.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skid @ Mar 8 2008, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>where should a rider not be touring? on the racing line especially on the entry/exit of a turn, which is exactly what rossi was doing. rossi didn't get on the gas at all out of there, his fault. if someone had pulled that .... on him he be shouting about it.You cannot see that from the video, & all I've gotten from laptimes is people bullshiting that they have seen them.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Valentino Rossi:
I’m really sorry that Pedrosa fell, and I hope that he is okay. I was riding normally, if not at lap record pace, but I think he was travelling faster behind me and wasn’t able to stop when he exited the turn and hit me from behind. It was unlucky.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Dani Pedrosa:
The accident happened when I was riding behind Rossi. I was catching him and he did something unexpected, so I couldn’t avoid him.

My take, Pedrosa just had more speed that Rossi at that point, Rossi didnt looked like he slowed to me..........

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Mar 8 2008, 10:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You cannot see that from the video, & all I've gotten from laptimes is people bullshiting that they have seen them.rossi has lost the run of himself a bit here. you can see how much more speed pedrosa has at that point than rossi, it's a lot. pedrosa accelerates hard while rossi hesitates, no acceleration and pedrochio has no place to go. how obvious does it have to be for you to see it? rossi says he was riding normally?...he's talking balls. pedrosa was riding normally.

It was just one of those unfortunate crashes, Pedrosa was carrying a very good amount of speed and definatly wasn't going to go wide but Rossi I think Rossi was just much slower in that section and it proved.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Haga @ Mar 8 2008, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It was just one of those unfortunate crashes, Pedrosa was carrying a very good amount of speed and definatly wasn't going to go wide but Rossi I think Rossi was just much slower in that section and it proved.haha you should be a pr/spokesperson guy for rossi there haga! that's even more on the fence than rossi's explaination. top stuff!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skid @ Mar 8 2008, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>rossi has lost the run of himself a bit here. you can see how much more speed pedrosa has at that point than rossi, it's a lot. pedrosa accelerates hard while rossi hesitates, no acceleration and pedrochio has no place to go. how obvious does it have to be for you to see it? rossi says he was riding normally?...he's talking balls. pedrosa was riding normally.So it's impossible that Pedrosa was carrying too much speed? Yeah course it is.[/sarcasm]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BEN @ Mar 8 2008, 10:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>My take, Pedrosa just had more speed that Rossi at that point, Rossi didnt looked like he slowed to me..........
RE: the quotes.
Isn't that (what Pedrosa said) something around the same explanation for taking out Hayden at Estoril?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Mar 8 2008, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So it's impossible that Pedrosa was carrying too much speed? Yeah course it is.[/sarcasm] yes it is. get over it. wait, was little dani running wide, or did he gas it too much and did rossi being there actually save him from a nasty high side, phew! ...or was it really pedrosas fault for clipping rossi considering that valentino, by his own words was riding normally? that cracks me up! how far into the ridiculous/sarcastic you wanna take it gb?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skid @ Mar 8 2008, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'> yes it is. get over it. wait, was little dani running wide, or did he gas it too much and did rossi being there actually save him from a nasty high side, phew! ...or was it really pedrosas fault for clipping rossi considering that valentino, by his own words was riding normally? that cracks me up! how far into the ridiculous/sarcastic you wanna take it gb?There's a lot of irony there!!

But just take a look at Pedrosa's history of this kind of ...., what has been the constant crticism of him? He's ..... on the brakes...hmm

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 8 2008, 11:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Gee Goatboy .... even the cameraman didn't expect Rossi to slow so much!! .... he was still panning at Rossi's original speed!!Oh ........, he's central shot throughout the second angle.

When you've been a cameraman for a decade you can have an opinon

wow - i´m so happy it has finally started!

was really cool to watch the 2FP on eurosport
LOL @ Pedrochio

i´m really worried about Haydens performence, hopefully he can imporve later today and tomorrow
i´m really impressed by the rookies, especially by the Lollipop Guy Lorenzo

can´t wait for the Qualifying and the race tomorrow

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Burky @ Mar 8 2008, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Maybe the difference is less, but a top quality 250 rider will still get on a 990 and be quick. Did Valentino not win his first title on a 500, then continued to dominate in Moto GP? He was dominant in 125, same in 250, continuing into Moto GP. Who 'really' came through with him, at a time when we were losing immense talents such as Doohan. He was preceded as champion by two one time champions, Alex Criville and KR Jnr, and I believe, immensely talented as he is, that he wasn't really defending the title through a classic period. Unfortunately I'm old enough to remember the epic Schwantz, Rainey, Lawson, Gardner et al days. When we look back in many years and talk about the 'greats' of our sport, all 4 of these names will be mentioned. So will Valentino's, but will we be tagging KR Jnr, Criville, Melandri, Hayden, Capirossi, Edwards etc as 'greats'. No offense to these, again, immensely talented riders who have been at the echelon of motorcycle racing, but I can't see us regarding them amongst the 'greats'.

I have to pick you up on this point even though i'm gonna be unpopular and off-topic (standard). Although i agree with you that riders like Melandri, Criville and Capirossi will not be remembered as greats in the long term i take an opposite stance to your reasoning. I would suggest (stay calm) that riders from the "golden era" are in fact not as great as riders from relitively "weak" eras like now or the mid 90's. the very fact that so many riders from the late 80's are metnioned as greats together shows that no one rider rose above significantly enough to be truly that great. In any given season each rider in the top class of bike racing can only face the best riders in the world, so to make those men look ordinary and forgettable is a far greater achievement than to be considered their equal.

Well I've used (video) cameras more than sometimes. The operator is zooming out because he thinks Pedrosa is going to pass, because of the rate of speed he is drawing up to Rossi. Pedrosa is already in shot, it's not like he suddenly appears is it? Rossi is the central focus & the operator draws out to get a wider angle on the two bikes. The movement of the camera is what you are seeing.

But then it doesn't matter what I say does it, I even started out saying I wasn't sure, which you missed. & Now you've forced me to watch it 10 times & now I am sure