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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skid @ Mar 8 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>horhey on pole and a podium for the race. jt and dovi make up the front row.
Jorge is current runing at the top of the pile!
Jorge is current runing at the top of the pile!
Dang! Rossi was sandbagging.
I thought that he might but the sly dog is back in form with competitive equipment.
Lorenzo is not taking anything lying down...
The kid may just be the real deal
I thought that he might but the sly dog is back in form with competitive equipment.
Lorenzo is not taking anything lying down...
The kid may just be the real deal
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Duc999 @ Mar 8 2008, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dang! Rossi was sandbagging.
I thought that he might but the sly dog is back in form with competitive equipment.
Lorenzo is not taking anything lying down...
The kid may just be the real deal
like i said rossi seemed to be cruising around yesterday i think hes playing tricks
yes lorenzo is the real deal maybe the next rossi??
i knew he would be good
live timing isnt working im gettin real pissy time for a email to express my anger... wow im gettin to watch the last 6 mins, if this happens for QP video ill be really f pissed off
I thought that he might but the sly dog is back in form with competitive equipment.
Lorenzo is not taking anything lying down...
The kid may just be the real deal
like i said rossi seemed to be cruising around yesterday i think hes playing tricks
yes lorenzo is the real deal maybe the next rossi??
i knew he would be good
live timing isnt working im gettin real pissy time for a email to express my anger... wow im gettin to watch the last 6 mins, if this happens for QP video ill be really f pissed off
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Mar 8 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, I might be wrong but it looks to me as if Rossi take the inside line as the exit arrive. They have a healty peace of track outside of them when they crash and should be on the curb, and my guess is that Pedrosa had decieded to go on the inside of Rossi to pass him at the same time as Rossi decided to let him by on the outside (race line). Just another race incident and things that happen. Might have been avoided with some clear sign from Rossi but it looks like he was on pace until he decided to let the one behind by the easy way and kicking out your boot while knee scraping is not an easy thing to do.that's just it fish, you gotta admit you'd be pissed off if some guy parked it in front of you on the racing line without any signal and you were hard on the gas off a turn. it was an amateurish mistake at best. if you're not racing/pushing, get the .... outta the way. shouldn't happen at this level. i wouldn't really care but it's the fanboys either laughing at pedrosa which to a degree i understand but to imply some blame or negligence on pedrosa is a joke in itself.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skid @ Mar 8 2008, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>that's just it fish, you gotta admit you'd be pissed off if some guy parked it in front of you on the racing line without any signal and you were hard on the gas off a turn. it was an amateurish mistake at best. if you're not racing/pushing, get the .... outta the way. shouldn't happen at this level. i wouldn't really care but it's the fanboys either laughing at pedrosa which to a degree i understand but to imply some blame or negligence on pedrosa is a joke in itself.
wow why didnt you actually watch why he was going slow???
he just come out of the garage with cold tyres he would hardly being pushing hard..
maybe midget boy should of put a pillow on the seat then maybe the little troll would be able to see over the handlebars.
wow why didnt you actually watch why he was going slow???
he just come out of the garage with cold tyres he would hardly being pushing hard..
maybe midget boy should of put a pillow on the seat then maybe the little troll would be able to see over the handlebars.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Duc999 @ Mar 8 2008, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dang! Rossi was sandbagging.
I thought that he might but the sly dog is back in form with competitive equipment.
Lorenzo is not taking anything lying down...
The kid may just be the real deal
Rossi will probably suffer at Q-seesion when the temp is down another 5-6deg C. He had grip problems yesterday just like all the other B.stone riders except stoner and I doubt he was sandbagging anyone. But at usual his methodical chief machanic find small improvments all the time.
I thought that he might but the sly dog is back in form with competitive equipment.
Lorenzo is not taking anything lying down...
The kid may just be the real deal
Rossi will probably suffer at Q-seesion when the temp is down another 5-6deg C. He had grip problems yesterday just like all the other B.stone riders except stoner and I doubt he was sandbagging anyone. But at usual his methodical chief machanic find small improvments all the time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skid @ Mar 8 2008, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>that's just it fish, you gotta admit you'd be pissed off if some guy parked it in front of you on the racing line without any signal and you were hard on the gas off a turn. it was an amateurish mistake at best. if you're not racing/pushing, get the .... outta the way. shouldn't happen at this level. i wouldn't really care but it's the fanboys either laughing at pedrosa which to a degree i understand but to imply some blame or negligence on pedrosa is a joke in itself.
why? the bikes don't come with mirrors.
I'm sure Rossi probably heard him but didn't realize Pedrosa was 1' off his rear wheel.
Pedrosa can see Rossi, Rossi can't see Peders. Sitting up in the race line is one thing, warming up your tires is another. Follow as closely as you dare, Primadosa got too close.
why? the bikes don't come with mirrors.
I'm sure Rossi probably heard him but didn't realize Pedrosa was 1' off his rear wheel.
Pedrosa can see Rossi, Rossi can't see Peders. Sitting up in the race line is one thing, warming up your tires is another. Follow as closely as you dare, Primadosa got too close.
I don't get how a rider of melandri's talent can be 2.5 seconds off stoner, even if stoner is agostini, lawson, doohan and rossi combined you would think 1 second at most. Has he tried to change the bike in a completely different direction (obviously unsuccessfully) to suit his riding style?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Mar 8 2008, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>why? the bikes don't come with mirrors.
I'm sure Rossi probably heard him but didn't realize Pedrosa was 1' off his rear wheel.
Pedrosa can see Rossi, Rossi can't see Peders. Sitting up in the race line is one thing, warming up your tires is another. Follow as closely as you dare, Primadosa got too close.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Mar 8 2008, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>wow why didnt you actually watch why he was going slow???
he just come out of the garage with cold tyres he would hardly being pushing hard..
maybe midget boy should of put a pillow on the seat then maybe the little troll would be able to see over the handlebars.
jeez guys...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Valentino Rossi:
I’m really sorry that Pedrosa fell, and I hope that he is okay. I was riding normally, <u>if not at lap record pace</u>, but I think he was travelling faster behind me and wasn’t able to stop when he exited the turn and hit me from behind. It was unlucky....if rossi was at lap record pace pedrosa must be going to wipe the floor with everybody going by the amount of drive that honda has out of the turns
somethings not right is it? but after all it's pedrosa's fault hahaha
I'm sure Rossi probably heard him but didn't realize Pedrosa was 1' off his rear wheel.
Pedrosa can see Rossi, Rossi can't see Peders. Sitting up in the race line is one thing, warming up your tires is another. Follow as closely as you dare, Primadosa got too close.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Mar 8 2008, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>wow why didnt you actually watch why he was going slow???
he just come out of the garage with cold tyres he would hardly being pushing hard..
maybe midget boy should of put a pillow on the seat then maybe the little troll would be able to see over the handlebars.
jeez guys...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Valentino Rossi:
I’m really sorry that Pedrosa fell, and I hope that he is okay. I was riding normally, <u>if not at lap record pace</u>, but I think he was travelling faster behind me and wasn’t able to stop when he exited the turn and hit me from behind. It was unlucky....if rossi was at lap record pace pedrosa must be going to wipe the floor with everybody going by the amount of drive that honda has out of the turns
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Mar 8 2008, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi will probably suffer at Q-seesion when the temp is down another 5-6deg C. He had grip problems yesterday just like all the other B.stone riders except stoner and I doubt he was sandbagging anyone. But at usual his methodical chief machanic find small improvments all the time.i hope he does find the pace, the more at the front the merrier for us.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skid @ Mar 8 2008, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>that's just it fish, you gotta admit you'd be pissed off if some guy parked it in front of you on the racing line without any signal and you were hard on the gas off a turn. it was an amateurish mistake at best. if you're not racing/pushing, get the .... outta the way. shouldn't happen at this level. i wouldn't really care but it's the fanboys either laughing at pedrosa which to a degree i understand but to imply some blame or negligence on pedrosa is a joke in itself.
Well, I was pissed, but could hardly blame anyone but myself as the front runner owes the track and I shoudl have been prepared for that amature ..... to change his line in mid corner. The situation here as I saw it was a case of simple miscomunication. Going from race speed and slow down are allways a critical moment when someone is right behind. I my opinion Rossi did the right thing as he left the race line, problem was that Pedrosa did the the same to go on the inside. And as I said before, it's not like it's just to give a signal when someone are right behind you. Only the attempt to signal will slow you down significantly.
Look back at last weekend and the Ten Kate hondas that crashed into each other as the red flag came up. That was a bad one but similarly "unavoidable". The rules says slow completly down at once. At the same time most of the riders don't do this but let the pace slow down gardually to avoid these situations.
If you absolutly want to point at someone here, it's no doubt Pedrosa. Rossi were in front and left the race line before or at the same time as slowing down. Pedrosa got it wrong and crashed into Rossi form behind and there must be extreeme conditions to blame that on the front rider. That's the rules.
As it was I wouldn't go as far as blaming him, pedrosa missunderstood Rossi, and payed a small price for that. That's what's called race incidents where no one get the blame.
Well, I was pissed, but could hardly blame anyone but myself as the front runner owes the track and I shoudl have been prepared for that amature ..... to change his line in mid corner. The situation here as I saw it was a case of simple miscomunication. Going from race speed and slow down are allways a critical moment when someone is right behind. I my opinion Rossi did the right thing as he left the race line, problem was that Pedrosa did the the same to go on the inside. And as I said before, it's not like it's just to give a signal when someone are right behind you. Only the attempt to signal will slow you down significantly.
Look back at last weekend and the Ten Kate hondas that crashed into each other as the red flag came up. That was a bad one but similarly "unavoidable". The rules says slow completly down at once. At the same time most of the riders don't do this but let the pace slow down gardually to avoid these situations.
If you absolutly want to point at someone here, it's no doubt Pedrosa. Rossi were in front and left the race line before or at the same time as slowing down. Pedrosa got it wrong and crashed into Rossi form behind and there must be extreeme conditions to blame that on the front rider. That's the rules.
As it was I wouldn't go as far as blaming him, pedrosa missunderstood Rossi, and payed a small price for that. That's what's called race incidents where no one get the blame.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skid @ Mar 8 2008, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>jeez guys...
...if rossi was at lap record pace pedrosa must be going to wipe the floor with everybody going by the amount of drive that honda has out of the turns
somethings not right is it? but after all it's pedrosa's fault hahaha
Just b/c Rossi is full of it, doesn't mean it wasn't Pedrosa's fault, imo.
As you can see from the frontal shot, Peders had 5 feet to go around the outside, but he was tucked so tight, and target fixated so badly, he got his front wheel inside of Rossi who was exiting the racing line to the inside.
It's like skiing. If your hauling ... you're responsible not to hit the person directly in front of you even if he is an imbecile. There are a few exceptions for people who sit up in the racing line though.
...if rossi was at lap record pace pedrosa must be going to wipe the floor with everybody going by the amount of drive that honda has out of the turns
Just b/c Rossi is full of it, doesn't mean it wasn't Pedrosa's fault, imo.
As you can see from the frontal shot, Peders had 5 feet to go around the outside, but he was tucked so tight, and target fixated so badly, he got his front wheel inside of Rossi who was exiting the racing line to the inside.
It's like skiing. If your hauling ... you're responsible not to hit the person directly in front of you even if he is an imbecile. There are a few exceptions for people who sit up in the racing line though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Mar 8 2008, 06:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If anybody is sandbagging it might be Stoner.After Rossi put up fast time,Casey bettered it the next lap.After Lorenzo put up best time,2 laps later Stoner topped him.He seem to up the ante at will.
Looks that way to me too. But who cares, it's the season opener and everyone are holding their cards tight.
Looks that way to me too. But who cares, it's the season opener and everyone are holding their cards tight.
On linving timing; what does the blue helmet next to the position number mean? an improving time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bojuhl @ Mar 8 2008, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>On linving timing; what does the blue helmet next to the position number mean? an improving time.
Yup, best personal time. Red is fastest over all, grey is ... bad.
With a valid subscription the other buttons and options are available and you see the intermediate times as well with colored nubers or helmets, depending on view. Nice.
Yup, best personal time. Red is fastest over all, grey is ... bad.
With a valid subscription the other buttons and options are available and you see the intermediate times as well with colored nubers or helmets, depending on view. Nice.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ganz @ Mar 7 2008, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i think that if Rossi can't beat Lorenzo it will mean only one thing... that he is finished. we'll see on Sunday
Lorenzo is a world champion and a 4 times winner at Losail. On top of this, Michelin have manufactured ad-hoc tyres again for this race, thanks to the data collected in those free tests a few days ago. It it is not an event out this world if Lorenzo ends up to be faster than Rossi in this race. That would not mean Rossi's finished.
To know whether or how much Rossi is declining, better wait for the middle of the current season
Lorenzo is a world champion and a 4 times winner at Losail. On top of this, Michelin have manufactured ad-hoc tyres again for this race, thanks to the data collected in those free tests a few days ago. It it is not an event out this world if Lorenzo ends up to be faster than Rossi in this race. That would not mean Rossi's finished.
To know whether or how much Rossi is declining, better wait for the middle of the current season
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Mar 8 2008, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>To know whether or how much Rossi is declining, better wait for the middle of the current season
No no, judgement NOW, before the first race
No no, judgement NOW, before the first race
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