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Data sharing can be accepted. However, when it neutralises your edge over your opponent, as a rider the frustration is understandable. Even the satellite riders deserves atleast some sharing of these knowledge. Bradley voiced the same last year.

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I was thinking along the lines of VR pinching Jorge's data and setting his bike up accordingly, then being unable to ride it!
 
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I was thinking along the lines of VR pinching Jorge's data and setting his bike up accordingly, then being unable to ride it!



Don't forget Bradley was riding a bike that was a year older with many different parts. Half the data wouldn't be any use, let alone parts.
Remember Crutchlow banging on about the factory fuel tank when he was ta Tech3? When they gave him one he went slower!
 
44 minutes into this will show the rossi nut suckers where their champion get his speed from.
Rossi is doing everything in his power for the holy grail 8th Crown. Last few months, he has hit a new low with his off track antics.

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Rossi is doing everything in his power for the holy grail 8th Crown. Last few months, he has hit a new low with his off track antics.

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He's got 9 titles! Last few months ? What's happened since the season began? Anything? At all ?
 
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He's got 9 titles! Last few months ? What's happened since the season began? Anything? At all ?



But only 7 MotoGP titles. Come on buddy I thought you were "mr details"
You've swallowed the journalists ........ whole haven't you. LOL
 
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He's got 9 titles! Last few months ? What's happened since the season began? Anything? At all ?



Odds that the Rossi fans count all titles Rossi has while they only counts Jorge 3 Motogp titles.

The funny part in the jlo Guerrero clip is that Jorge knew Rossi was going to follow him onto the track, so he faked it and Rossi bit it. Hook and sinker!!
 
He's got 9 titles! Last few months ? What's happened since the season began? Anything? At all ?
We should only be considering the titles won in premier class, just like it's been for other riders [emoji4]

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44 minutes into this will show the rossi nut suckers where their champion get his speed from.

44 minutes? That showed the motegi race where Jorge found the reverse gear on the m1, after that was when the claim about data was made, it's not exactly the bomb of revelations, their riding styles are too different to have a straight set up copy.
 
Odds that the Rossi fans count all titles Rossi has while they only counts Jorge 3 Motogp titles.

The funny part in the jlo Guerrero clip is that Jorge knew Rossi was going to follow him onto the track, so he faked it and Rossi bit it. Hook and sinker!!

Jorge has 5 titles , I count them all.
 
Can you give me the time of where it is on the video please.
44:17 Jorge's box was starting to suspect something.

"We had the feeling...well, not the feeling, we knew that when he [Rossi] was struggling, he kept getting closer to the settings we were working with since Friday. In the end, the set up they used on race day was the same as ours. We believed that Ramon [Lorenzo's crew chief] was working double, for two riders. It's frustrating but you can't think too much, because you can't change it."


Thus data stealing is useless, a crime against yourself!

47.03: "We knew we couldn't avoid that he [Rossi] could watch or copy our settings, but we could make sure that he didn't follow me in qualifying. He already knew my qualifying strategy. We had to let him think that we were going to go out first. We thought that Max was watching so he could tell him when he had to go out. When I was about to get on the bike, I decided to go back and wait for everyone else. I guess he was waiting to go right after me. He took the bait."

Btw, he goes on to say Iannone followed him and got a better time. Jorge confronted Iannone about it, saying one time is ok, but two times is too much. To which Iannone responded, yes I'm sorry, conceding, but says I'll repay you. Lorenzo says Iannone paid him back by beating Rossi at PI.

(Btw, this movie also shows how much respect and well these guys get along, Pedro, Marquez, Lorenzo, Iannone, congratulating eachother, etc. Contrasted to Rossi who looks like it's contrived. I laughed when Lorenzo says these things kept Rossi from sleeping well. Undoubtedly Rossi gave Iannone a good tongue lashing for the crime of racing him.)

You have to wonder how much .... Rossi has got away with over the years. Especially during a time others couldn't challenge him in terms of clout, status, and audacity. Surely Rossi loved having Hayden and Edwards around.


But wait, it wasn't in an official Yamaha /Dorna press release, so you won't believe it. :)
 
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It'll probably annoy a few people that Dani is a triple world champion!



Not me, the lad deserved them. The only thing he didn't deserve is his captain's license, naughty boy!
The journalists are the ........ to blame re the titles. How many times do we hear them banging on about the tenth title, then they call Marquez a double world champion, Lorenzo a triple world champion etc etc. It's stuck with the custard crusaders and is another way they try and place him on a pedestal.
If Marquez gets a decent bike under him, he'll break Rossi's records one by one. I can only see Lorenzo and Vinales giving him any trouble in the future.
 
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47.03: "We knew we couldn't avoid that he [Rossi] could watch or copy our settings, but we could make sure that he didn't follow me in qualifying. He already knew my qualifying strategy. We had to let him think that we were going to go out first. We thought that Max was watching so he could tell him when he had to go out. When I was about to get on the bike, I decided to go back and wait for everyone else. I guess he was waiting to go right after me. He took the bait."

Btw, he goes on to say Iannone followed him and got a better time. Jorge confronted Iannone about it, saying one time is ok, but two times is too much. To which Iannone responded, yes I'm sorry, conceding, but says I'll repay you. Lorenzo says Iannone paid him back by beating Rossi at PI.

(Btw, this movie also shows how much respect and well these guys get along, Pedro, Marquez, Lorenzo, Iannone, congratulating eachother, etc. Contrasted to Rossi who looks like it's contrived. I laughed when Lorenzo says these things kept Rossi from sleeping well. Undoubtedly Rossi gave Iannone a good tongue lashing for the crime of racing him.)

You have to wonder how much .... Rossi has got away with over the years. Especially during a time others couldn't challenge him in terms of clout, status, and audacity. Surely Rossi loved having Hayden and Edwards around.


But wait, it wasn't in an official Yamaha /Dorna press release, so you won't believe it. :)

Of course as Autismus Maximus of this forum you will conveniently see it like this. Then again, someone with your severe mental illness have no idea how to read body language. The embraces and congratulating and camaradeie (hope this word is correct) between Rossi and Jorge looked very real to me. So when he ignores riders Valentino is '.......' but when he laughs, jokes and congratulates them on track and in parc ferme it's 'contrived'. Why not make up your mind? Just shows you have zero credibility even with 200,000 post and 10,000 word text walls you can not even remain objective, poor ........
 
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Another insightful and valuable post Talps err I mean paparazzo, thank you...
 
44 minutes? That showed the motegi race where Jorge found the reverse gear on the m1, after that was when the claim about data was made, it's not exactly the bomb of revelations, their riding styles are too different to have a straight set up copy.
You wanted to know where the claim was made about Rossi copying lorenzos data.

Then when you watch some of the video you say it doesn't matter because their riding styles are too different!

Why then did Rossi copy Lorenzo data?
Why back in the day did he put a wall up between him and Lorenzo and ban data sharing?

Wheres the logic?
 
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So when he ignores riders Valentino is '.......' but when he laughs, jokes and congratulates them on track and in parc ferme it's 'contrived'.


I knew it!!!

he does look so contrived...... is it just you and I see it!??

Good point.

Maybe other will accept this now too.
 
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It's another example of Rossi being a .... sadly. Lets be honest, riders are gunna look to each other for riding style and set up. It's natural, "how is that guy doing what I can't?" These are seriously competitive people, if they think someone has the secret of extra tenths, they wanna know why.

Ironically, it's Rossi, who has a proven track record of adapting to different styles (Italian ditch pumps aside) better than most. So for him to be crying about sharing data whatever is another example of "shut up and ride the bike pal"

To use a Scottish term, he has "shat in his own nest" His legacy is now tainted. He should be celebrating the fact that he is still running top 3 at his age, not belittling the young guys.

He threw the title away last season by being a ...., Marquez was more than capable of putting himself into the gravel at Malaysia, he was riding rattled, and looking for somewhere to crash. Rossi could have let him get on with it and maybe lifted the title, but chose to play with the wee guy, and came out looking like a petulant child.

Ive been a Rossi fan since 125 days (still got the replica lid) but, like plenty others, just wish he would ride the bike and keep his outbursts to himself.

I'm sure I'm not alone in being disillusioned by his fall from grace.

BTW, hows my man Hopper doing in BSB this year?
 
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