New MotoGP Qualifying Rules - Good or Bad?

duc · Jan 26, 2013

Looks like there is a new format for qualifying... instead of one Saturday spent on qualifying, it's now stretched out over the weekend. Is this better for the fans or the riders?

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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;As explained by Dorna CEO Carmelo Ezpeleta at Ducati’s Wrooom in early January this year, a new qualifying format will be brought in for the premier-class MotoGP category to increase the spectacle for the fans, and to put greater importance on competitive times throughout the preceding practice sessions.

<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;As in previous years, there will be three 45-minute Free Practice sessions, which on a regular race weekend will be held Friday morning and afternoon, as well as Saturday morning. The difference this year will be that the times set in those sessions will count towards Qualifying, with the combined results determining whether a rider will participate in Q1 or Q2.

<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;Q1 will consist of the riders whose times are 11th place and below, and will be a 15-minute session. During this time riders will have the incentive to qualify for Q2, which the two fastest of the session will be able to contest. This will result in 12 riders contesting the final 15-minute Q2 session, to determine the starting order at the front. The riders not in the fastest two places in QP1 will take grid positions 13 and above according to their placement in QP1.

<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;To accommodate for any unforeseen changes or necessary adjustments, there will be a 30 minute Free Practice 4, which will be held before the two Qualifying sessions. This will not be timed, nor count towards which Qualifying a rider will take part in.

<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;Moto2 and Moto3 free practices and qualifying will remain the same as in previous years.

<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;New Procedure

<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;1. The three existing sessions of free practice will be unchanged, however, the combined times from those sessions will determine participation in the final qualifying practice.
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;2. The ten fastest riders will be seeded through to Qualifying Practice 2 (QP2).
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;3. All other riders will take part in Qualifying Practice 1 (QP1).
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;4. The fastest two riders in QP1 will progress to QP2, making a total of 12 riders competing for the first 12 grid positions.
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;5. The riders not in the fastest two places in QP1 will take grid positions 13 and above according to their times in QP1.


<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;Free Practice 1 - 45 Minutes, Timed for Qualifying Practice Participation


<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;Free Practice 4 - 30 Minutes, NOT Timed for Qualifying Practice Participation
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;Break - 10 Minutes
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;Qualifying Practice 1 - 15 minutes

<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;Break - 10 Minutes

<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;Qualifying Practice 2 - 15 minutes

Mick D · Jan 26, 2013

Do we really need two threads on the same topic? Ben's mindin' the bandwidth ya'know!!

http://www.powerslide.net/forum/index.php?/topic/15603-new-qp-format/

duc · Jan 26, 2013

Mick D

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Do we really need two threads on the same topic? Ben's mindin' the bandwidth ya'know!!

http://www.powerslide.net/forum/index.php?/topic/15603-new-qp-format/

Aaaah I swear I did a search for "rules" and "qualifying" and nothing came up... sorry about that!

duc · Jan 26, 2013

Mick D

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Do we really need two threads on the same topic? Ben's mindin' the bandwidth ya'know!!

http://www.powerslide.net/forum/index.php?/topic/15603-new-qp-format/

Aaaah I swear I did a search for "rules" and "qualifying" and nothing came up... sorry about that!

Geonerd · Jan 26, 2013

duc

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Aaaah I swear I did a search for "rules" and "qualifying" and nothing came up... sorry about that!

No need to apologize. Your rundown of the rules makes this thread much more useful than the other one.

Mick, lighten up, dude!

Mick D · Jan 26, 2013

Geo, if you think that was harsh you're a pansypoofter!

Andy Roo · Jan 26, 2013

He's just had too much coffee okay!

Lyria · Jan 27, 2013

Thanks for showing us the new rules duc

Only time will tell if it's better or worse than the old system.

Ngads · Jan 27, 2013

i don't think its worse or better, but if it aint broke why fix it.

These guys love changing rules

Lyria · Jan 27, 2013

Of course they love changing the rules, it has to look like they're doing something doesn't it?

BJ.C · Jan 28, 2013

At the unveiling of the new Cardion ART today, Karel's Dad had this to say:

<p style="color:rgb(93,93,93);font-family:Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif;Karel Abraham Sr., Team Manager
<p style="color:rgb(93,93,93);font-family:Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif;“ART is one of the best CRT motorbikes. The transition from prototype is not a step backwards but rather a side step. I believe CRTs´ will be able to match with prototypes. Plus, they will be much more visible thanks to the new qualification system.”

Could that be the driver for the new QP? To give the also-rans a chance to get their 15 minutes of glory in the TV spotlight?

digger · Jan 28, 2013

BJ.C

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At the unveiling of the new Cardion ART today, Karel's Dad had this to say:

Could that be the driver for the new QP? To give the also-rans a chance to get their 15 minutes of glory in the TV spotlight?

certainly couldnt hurt mate. if the sponsors know they will actually get some tv coverage, it could help coax more cash out of them or attract new ones.

BJ.C · Jan 28, 2013

Stop being so normal - this is the time for wild speculation, rumour and conspiracy theory!

I expected at least half a page from the tinfoil-hat brigade about how this is Carmelo's plan for something nefarious...

digger · Jan 29, 2013

haha, sorry mate, ill smoke a cone and get back to you about how carmelo faked the moon landing

BJ.C · Jan 29, 2013

It's a start, I suppose

povol · Jan 29, 2013

BJ.C

3419231359435370

At the unveiling of the new Cardion ART today, Karel's Dad had this to say:

Could that be the driver for the new QP? To give the also-rans a chance to get their 15 minutes of glory in the TV spotlight?

Back when this was first introduced, that was talked about as one of the stated goals i believe.

Pigeon · Jan 29, 2013

Day 2 15mins sessions and 10 min breaks

what they gonna do about weather causing chit

what about a rider having a small off or goes grass tracking and then might need a new windscreen / fairing replaced minor damage

i see the motogp farce continues in 13 unlucky for some

Goatboy · Jan 29, 2013

Well in F1 if your out, your out! Not quite sure that works for two wheels.

Andy Roo · Jan 30, 2013

Spent a couple of days mulling over this one.

There are only 4 bikes that could win.

After that there is only 2 maybe 3 that could through sheer lack of concern for their own mortality force their way onto the front row to be swallowed by the 4th corner in the race.

Carmelo, the GFC, Dorna, Spaniards generally with some help from Italy have forced us into accepting (even if we don't accept it) that a whole bunch of grid fillers take the remaining places.

These don't have a chance in hell of getting on the first 2 rows unless rain falls in biblical proportions (see the brickyard in...2010?).

If they don't get some playtime without the big kids they may not even turn up. And the very worst thing that could ever happen to Dorna and motogp generally is that we get to say "I told you so".

So in the current environment it will be good, it will prop up the decaying mess of motogp like a bad sequel to "A weekend at Bernies" until someone does something decent with the management of the series.

thedeal · Jan 30, 2013

Andy Roo

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Spent a couple of days mulling over this one.

There are only 4 bikes that could win.

After that there is only 2 maybe 3 that could through sheer lack of concern for their own mortality force their way onto the front row to be swallowed by the 4th corner in the race.

Carmelo, the GFC, Dorna, Spaniards generally with some help from Italy have forced us into accepting (even if we don't accept it) that a whole bunch of grid fillers take the remaining places.

These don't have a chance in hell of getting on the first 2 rows unless rain falls in biblical proportions (see the brickyard in...2010?).

If they don't get some playtime without the big kids they may not even turn up. And the very worst thing that could ever happen to Dorna and motogp generally is that we get to say "I told you so".

So in the current environment it will be good, it will prop up the decaying mess of motogp like a bad sequel to "A weekend at Bernies" until someone does something decent with the management of the series.

Just spat me tea out. Agree 100%

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