MotoGP race report, Mugello

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 5 2008, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't feel that achievements in classes outside of motogp can be judged on the same "absolute" scale, because they are not the premier class. Not that it matters since Rossi was in one man factory teams, it doesn't get any better.

Certainly why he switched team when he moved up to 250, his former team manager was too good I supose.

But the conclusion must be that Rossi never were on top. Then, the question is; how can he be over the top?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Jun 5 2008, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Which contradictions?

I'll admit I'm biased seeing as we're friends, but I can't spot any.
why doesn't that surprise me ?

tom hides behind is contradictions under the guise of putting over an alternative point that he doesn't nessersery agree with. he will use words like maybe, could ect so he can backtrack later. he often talks in riddle just like an mp to try and confuse. he thinks he is clever, i think he should pull his head out of his arse. try actually reading the threads phleg, then you wont need other members to point out the obvious that everyone else can see.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Tom @ Jun 4 2008, 08:52 PM)
I would have expected you to be able to work out that i am suggesting i may hold Rossi's past form in too high regard, which would explain why i think his current achievements not to be on that level. I don't think he "has" to win on inferior machinary, but as he relies on machinary for his results more than he did in the past it appears his ability is not as far ahead of the competition as it used to be.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Well i don't think i am in too much admiration of Rossi's achievements, but considering you cannot understand how I think Rossi is past his best, it is possible that you may feel I am.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Jun 5 2008, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Jesus ....... Christ, are people not allowed to be critical of Rossi without having some overtly sensitive brigade jump down his throat?

Critical, sure. Problem with Tom is that he's been sitting there for three days despeartly trying to defend former speculations, and so far he has not even tried to rationalize his fromer, and curent standing on the subject. I guess it takes a man to admit you were wrong, and Tom just proves he is stil a boy. Besides he's the only Mindless Rossi Basher around (not counting Pinky as he never made any sense at all) and we sure want our part of the fun.

among the clever ones, never openly gloating just stating "facts" like "Rossi is in the past".

You are welcome to have your fun Babel but i think you make it harder than it needs to be, so i'll make it nice and simple for you. I think Rossi's advantage as a rider is smaller now than it was in his best days. He has obviously improved this year over the last two seasons, but it remains to be seen if he can raise back to the heights he once atchieved.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 6 2008, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You are welcome to have your fun Babel but i think you make it harder than it needs to be, so i'll make it nice and simple for you. I think Rossi's advantage as a rider is smaller now than it was in his best days. He has obviously improved this year over the last two seasons, but it remains to be seen if he can raise back to the heights he once atchieved.


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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (odessa @ Jun 6 2008, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'><object width="425" height="350<param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_7kSjZ9LoIs</param><param name="wmode" value="transparent</param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_7kSjZ9LoIs" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350</embed></object>

Exactly! It looks good for Rossi right now but we know nothing should be taken for granted. After last year most people would hope that we don't get another season of domination, but it looks like a genuine possibility.