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MotoGP race report, Mugello

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 4 2008, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You missed the trick
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I reflected your behavior in hope that your predictable objection would make you see how destructive your attitude is, perhaps you will bare it in mind should you want a discussion.
pot and kettle tom. this is coming from the person who once stated he didnt always agree with his own statement's , that you just like to put an alternative opinion across. i would ask why ?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 4 2008, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>pot and kettle tom. this is coming from the person who once stated he didnt always agree with his own statement's , that you just like to put an alternative opinion across. i would ask why ?

Because i like to discuss as many possibilities as possible. Having an opinion does not render all other views useless.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 4 2008, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Because i like to discuss as many possibilities as possible. Having an opinion does not render all other views useless.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 4 2008, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I would have expected you to be able to work out that i am suggesting i may hold Rossi's past form in too high regard, which would explain why i think his current achievements not to be on that level. I don't think he "has" to win on inferior machinary, but as he relies on machinary for his results more than he did in the past it appears his ability is not as far ahead of the competition as it used to be.
I'm not certain, but I thought you (amongst others) had previously commented that Rossi's competition was not up to much during his championship winning years. If so, then I can't see what he can do to please you. Lorenzo, Pedrosa & Stoner should be a decent set of adversaries this year. As far as relying on his machinery - Lorenzo has exactly the same stuff, but with tyres (which so far this year appear to be holding together) that have data from riders on the same equipment. I think that whilst Rossi may not be as far ahead of the competition as he used to be, that statement does not necessarily have the corollary that Rossi is "past his best".
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 4 2008, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I would have expected you to be able to work out that i am suggesting i may hold Rossi's past form in too high regard, which would explain why i think his current achievements not to be on that level. I don't think he "has" to win on inferior machinary, but as he relies on machinary for his results more than he did in the past it appears his ability is not as far ahead of the competition as it used to be.

So to stay at the top of your own ability you have win with the same ease regardless of equipment and competition? I guess there is a kind of logic in that for the guy who think it's all in the mind. Only in your mind you can allways be 10 bikelegths ahead in any situation
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>(Tom @ Jun 4 2008, 08:52 PM)
I would have expected you to be able to work out that i am suggesting i may hold Rossi's past form in too high regard, which would explain why i think his current achievements not to be on that level. I don't think he "has" to win on inferior machinary, but as he relies on machinary for his results more than he did in the past it appears his ability is not as far ahead of the competition as it used to be.
well do you or dont you ? get off the fence tom before you get splinters up your arse.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Jun 4 2008, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm not certain, but I thought you (amongst others) had previously commented that Rossi's competition was not up to much during his championship winning years.

Nah, i may have made an example of those who do think that, but in the premier class of closed circuit bike racing i think the oposition looks week only when the best (championship winner) makes them look so by having a relatively large advantage
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 4 2008, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well do you or dont you ? get off the fence tom before you get splinters up your arse.

Well i don't think i am in too much admiration of Rossi's achievements, but considering you cannot understand how I think Rossi is past his best, it is possible that you may feel I am.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jun 4 2008, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So to stay at the top of your own ability you have win with the same ease regardless of equipment and competition? I guess there is a kind of logic in that for the guy who think it's all in the mind. Only in your mind you can allways be 10 bikelegths ahead in any situation
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If he is the best without the best with an inferior team one season and equaly superior with the best team another i would condider his performance greater when the team were further from the optimum.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 5 2008, 03:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If he is the best without the best with an inferior team one season and equaly superior with the best team another i would condider his performance greater when the team were further from the optimum.

So that brings Rossi's form top down to '98/'97 in 125 or 250cc?
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Jesus ....... Christ, are people not allowed to be critical of Rossi without having some overtly sensitive brigade jump down his throat?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Jun 5 2008, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Jesus ....... Christ, are people not allowed to be critical of Rossi without having some overtly sensitive brigade jump down his throat?
i think you miss the point phleg, tom is being pulled up on his contradictions.
 
Which contradictions?

I'll admit I'm biased seeing as we're friends, but I can't spot any.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Jun 5 2008, 05:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Jesus ....... Christ, are people not allowed to be critical of Rossi without having some overtly sensitive brigade jump down his throat?

Jesus ....... Christ, are people not allowed to compliment Rossi without having some overtly sensitive band wagon jumper jump down his throat?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jun 5 2008, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Jesus ....... Christ, are people not allowed to compliment Rossi without having some overtly sensitive band wagon jumper jump down his throat?
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good one
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jun 5 2008, 07:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So that brings Rossi's form top down to '98/'97 in 125 or 250cc?
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I don't feel that achievements in classes outside of motogp can be judged on the same "absolute" scale, because they are not the premier class. Not that it matters since Rossi was in one man factory teams, it doesn't get any better.
 

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