MotoGP New rules 2013. One bike + 5 engines max & Less mechanics

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Switch to MotoGP: Massive budgets already, and lots of prestige at stake. They will spend money on HP and on electronics, fighting for the last tenth of a second. TC is not an issue, but creating a manageable power delivery is, and that's the really, really expensive part. The best 600 race would be about as exciting as the worst 800 race. The only way to stop costs spiraling out of control is imposing a lot of technical restrictions, but if you're going to do that, then why bother going to 600s? Why not just impose the same restrictions on 1000s?



Perhaps, you are right, but your basis appears to be mainly historical paradigms and behavioral paradigms, not technological paradigms. The 800s were obviously going to be a problem b/c the 990s were basically undeveloped beasts. The MSMA had a quaint (or naive) idea that they would reduce the fuel capacity, raise the rev ceiling, and the sport would change fundamentally. Almost everyone else realized that the 800s would soon become high rev, low torque "990cc" MotoGP bikes. Peak power would not decline, and the fuel restriction would force the manufacturers to cover their bikes in electronics.



The 600s would be a different scenario. Unlike the switch to 800cc, the 600s would definitely reduce peak power output, which would change the relationship of the power to the contact patch. If the weight went down, traction control would probably become even less prevalent, though problems with cornerspeed would almost certainly be the consequence (longer races to fix?). A minor change to the gearbox rules, homologation (1 variant) for instance, the sport might actually emphasis useable power more than peak power, following the same reasoning of the 5-gear 990cc rule.



Personally, I think they should homologate a gearbox and primary ratio no matter what rules changes they use in MotoGP. Once you start going down that road; however, the sport takes on a completely new dimension. If they homologate gearboxes, primary ratio, and sprockets, they can control top speed b/c MotoGP will probably have a rev limit. So, in theory, they wouldn't have to use fuel to control performance. Furthermore, the benefit of tire performance is lessened slightly b/c a better launch out of the final corner doesn't necessarily mean a higher top speed (or acceleration) down the straight. A tire war might be easier to manage. But why stop there? If gear/sprocket homologation allows them to control top speed via a rev limit, why force the competitors to use 1 capacity and 1 rev limit. Why not let the manufacturers choose the engine capacity (maybe enforce a max) and the gear/sprocket set. The FIM could release capacity to keep the fans in the loop. The GPC can assign a rev limit for 6th gear (or any gear over the top speed limit), and use a black box to police the revs in top gear, thus top speed. If the fuel rules are still in tact, 6th gear would become a fuel economy gear, which would emphasize the importance of fuel efficiency. The gear box would essentially be reduced to 5 usable homologated gears, which would really emphasize powerband. No more need to enforce engine life rules b/c engines can be built for long life without sacrificing power. Possibly no need to homologate fuel systems b/c revs control top speed with the gearbox/sprocket homologation. If they ditch the fuel rules altogether, teams can use whatever fuel they want. They can use hybrids if they want b/c revs and top speed are controlled. The toughest part is regulating the circumferential expansion of the tires as they spin. They did it in F1 so Yasukawa knows how to make it happen.



I can think of about 4 or 5 different ways to make MotoGP interesting, fully-subscribed, cost-contained, well-sponsored, tire warred, etc. I'm not an oracle. The GPC fail on purpose. They have a mountain of cash waiting on them to claim it. They can't even take one step towards it. In fact, they step backwards away from it. I can only think of one party in the GPC who can afford to steer MotoGP clear of riches.



Detuning the 1000s is easier and cheaper, but it only works to an extent. The MSMA have been trying to detune MotoGP since the 990cc formula was introduced. If the MSMA want around 200hp (based on the old way to sanction racing), the 1000s aren't really viable b/c they'd have to make peak revs of roughly 12,500rpm.
 
The 1000 class will never die. I would not buy a 600 due to the lack of torque. I dont care how fast my bike is I just cant be bothered changing gear every 2 seconds.

Why not consider dropping gears from motogp? Could it work, 4 speed only.



Honda used to care much more than people remember. In the 500 days they held the privateer racers up alone. If a 4 cylinder NSR was too expensive Honda said no problem, here take this two-cylinder and it was even competitive. Somewhere that philosophy was lost.
 
Dorna CEO Carmelo Ezpeleta wants to see each MotoGP team limited to a budget of 15 million euros per season - less than half the amount being spent by reigning world champion's Honda.



During an interview with AS, Ezpeleta said: "The cap per team I'd like is 15 million, excluding the salaries of riders and marketing."



This would be achieved through "technical regulations that disproportionately punish [expensive] bike development”.



Such regulations would include the proposed 'restriction' of each factory to no more than two official and two satellite bikes (the present level), enforcement of the previously revealed target of 1 million euros maximum for a customer bike (satellite or CRT) and the planned move to a single bike per rider.



“What cannot be is that Honda now spends 40 million euros in its official team every year,” Ezpeleta added



Didn't F1 try something along these lines and the teams threatened to walk leaving no series if it stood?
 
Didn't F1 try something along these lines and the teams threatened to walk leaving no series if it stood?



Different kettle of fish. F1 generates massive profits, and the teams supposedly split about $500M-$600M between themselves. The budget proposal made them extremely suspicious that Max Mosley was trying to cut them out of the Concorde Agreement to do a favor for Bernie and CVC. The suspicion was the result of long-standing friction between the FIA and Ferrari (MM and LDM specifically), and the huge increase in revenue sharing for the teams leading up to the 2009 row.



F1 teams are only guaranteed $25M for participating, but a historically significant team (e.g. McLaren or Ferrari) can take home upwards of $150M for winning the championship. Highly stratified payouts. In addition, the teams get big sponsor bonuses and sponsorship contracts. Cheating and selling-out for commercial payments is lucrative business in F1. They were never going to let someone screw that up for them.



MotoGP doesn't make any money, imo, so budget cuts aren't scary.
 
It's about perceived value. The marketing directors of companies do not see the value of investing more than a couple of hundred grand in MotoGP, as compared to tens of millions in F1. Changing that perception is the biggest challenge facing MotoGP, and my worry is that Dorna is not up to that challenge.



And there it is....the centre of the problem facing MotoGP.
 

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