MotoGP Field 2012?

ROCKGOD01 said:

Whaaat? Depuniet sucked BEFORE he ever got on a DUC. Every team he has been on in GP....crash.....randy, randy eats gravel candy. So by trying to pawn off the problems on the Ducati is way out of line. If he was so great and strong etc, etc, why isn't he on any of the factory machines? He in my opinion is fast at times but has zero consistency. At this point I think he should make the switch to SBK. He would most likely crash there to but who knows. Randy hasn't done anything really to speak about in GP other than his notorious behavior in the kitty litter. I hope he goes somewhere else just because the sport needs riders who consistently finish races, not just a lap or two.

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yamaka46 said:

His first MotoGP years (2006/7) were on the Kwak where he had 7 race retirements each season and his first year on the Honda saw 5 race retirements. Can't remember how many, if any, were due to mechanicals or other riders taking him down though.



However I think you missed 2009 and 2010 when RDP retired in two races each season, though breaking his leg in Sachsenring in 2009 meant he had a DNS at Indy. He had just started to become more consistent in the races when he got handed the Pramac and he crashed that a lot whilst overriding IMO.

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ROCKGOD01 said:

Nope didn't miss it, I have been there watching GP for a looong time. It just seems that RDP is in the series to fill an spot for "the Frenchman". He is fast when there isn't anyone around, but for some reason he just can't keep it on two wheels. He has to have more crashes per week than any of the other riders per year. I would like to see someone more capable on one of the machines other than him. He has had his chance more than he should. Sure he has some flashes of mid pack but not often enough. In this current climate of GP racing, they should dump him and get someone else. IF they need a frenchman, then they are SOL.

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Austin said:

Then perhaps you haven't been paying attention. de Puniet has had numerous front row starts on a private Honda. I believe LCR had purchased "factory kit" from Honda in either 2009 or 2010, but not sure how factory it really was. Lauren Vickers spoke about him receiving HRC electronics as a performance bonus, so it obviously isn't exactly factory. That said, any private team qualifying on the front row is a monumental effort. How many times did Spies do it? How many times did Melandri do it last year? How many times did Simoncelli do it?



Yes, he's always been a crasher. But he's never had top drawer equipment. That has only been exacerbated while at Ducati. Dorna don't need a Frenchman, and that's been de Puniet's biggest problem. Because if given the choice between de Puniet and Cruthclow, I know who I'd want in my team.

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Austin said:

Then perhaps you haven't been paying attention. de Puniet has had numerous front row starts on a private Honda. I believe LCR had purchased "factory kit" from Honda in either 2009 or 2010, but not sure how factory it really was. Lauren Vickers spoke about him receiving HRC electronics as a performance bonus, so it obviously isn't exactly factory. That said, any private team qualifying on the front row is a monumental effort. How many times did Spies do it? How many times did Melandri do it last year? How many times did Simoncelli do it?



Yes, he's always been a crasher. But he's never had top drawer equipment. That has only been exacerbated while at Ducati. Dorna don't need a Frenchman, and that's been de Puniet's biggest problem. Because if given the choice between de Puniet and Cruthclow, I know who I'd want in my team.

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ROCKGOD01 said:

Whaaat? Depuniet sucked BEFORE he ever got on a DUC. Every team he has been on in GP....crash.....randy, randy eats gravel candy. So by trying to pawn off the problems on the Ducati is way out of line. If he was so great and strong etc, etc, why isn't he on any of the factory machines? He in my opinion is fast at times but has zero consistency. At this point I think he should make the switch to SBK. He would most likely crash there to but who knows. Randy hasn't done anything really to speak about in GP other than his notorious behavior in the kitty litter. I hope he goes somewhere else just because the sport needs riders who consistently finish races, not just a lap or two.

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Arrabbiata1 said:

Actually, none of these guys suck.



As Austin says - passport, so often the problem. You frequently find that a latin bloodline guaranteeing a raft of Spanish sponsorship can do wonders for consistency.

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Austin said:

Then perhaps you haven't been paying attention. de Puniet has had numerous front row starts on a private Honda. I believe LCR had purchased "factory kit" from Honda in either 2009 or 2010, but not sure how factory it really was. Lauren Vickers spoke about him receiving HRC electronics as a performance bonus, so it obviously isn't exactly factory. That said, any private team qualifying on the front row is a monumental effort. How many times did Spies do it? How many times did Melandri do it last year? How many times did Simoncelli do it?



Yes, he's always been a crasher. But he's never had top drawer equipment. That has only been exacerbated while at Ducati. Dorna don't need a Frenchman, and that's been de Puniet's biggest problem. Because if given the choice between de Puniet and Cruthclow, I know who I'd want in my team.

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PASSI said:

Is this right so far?



Repsol Honda:



Casey Stoner



Dani Pedrosa



Marlboro Ducati:



Valentino Rossi



Nicky Hayden



Yamaha:



Jorge Lorenzo



Ben Spies



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Cardion AB Motorracing



Karel Abraham



LCR Honda:



Stefan Bradl



Tech-3-Yamaha



Andrea Dovizioso



Cal Crutchlow



Gresini-Honda



Alvaro Bautista



Michele Pirro???



Aspar Ducati



Randy de Puniet



Aleix Espargaro



NGM Forward Racing



Colin Edwards



Speedmaster



Anthony West



Pramac-Ducati



Hector Barbera



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Right so far? S.o. missing? What 'bout Pirro? True?

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Kropotkin said:

http://motomatters.c...rider_list.html

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Kropotkin said:

http://motomatters.com/page/2012_motogp_provisional_rider_list.html

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Jumkie said:

Looking at that list, there are some highly suspect names. Will the qual requirements remain the same for next year? And will they stick to them or allow provisional starts?

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